Re: Does lowering your carbs also lower your energy?

[Guest guest]

Thank goodness! I'd hate to think that the rest of my life would revolve around

food :-).

I know what you mean about going on autopilot and forgetting whether you've

taken your pills. I've even been standing in the shower and forgotten whether or

not I've shampooed my hair!

Holly

Crohn's

SCD 12/01/08

> >I can't wait for the day that I no longer feel a

> >need to fuss over my food like this :-(.

>

> It will come -- trust me on this one! All this

> -- even the which you take with what of

> supplements and foods -- will become so automatic

> that sometimes, you'll have to stop and think

> about whether you've actually taken something.

> (Which is why, btw, I have seven-day pill boxes,

> so I can look at it and say, " Oh, yeah, I did take it with dinner.... "

>

>

> — Marilyn

> New Orleans, Louisiana, USA

> Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001

> Darn Good SCD Cook

> No Human Children

> Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund

> Babette the Foundling Beagle

>

[Guest guest]

On Sat, 29 May 2010 02:32:47 -0400, spookyhurst

wrote:

> Hi Jodi,

>

> How I wish I'd never started counting calories and grams! I started

> entering everything into Fitday the day I started SCD, and have been

> obsessing ever since.

So, why are you doing that? :-)

Is there a reason you think you need to count calories?

n

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[Guest guest]

At 01:39 AM 5/29/2010, you wrote:

Thank goodness! I'd hate to

think that the rest of my life would revolve around food

:-).

Well, we can't exactly survive without food, so in a sense, it will!

<g>

I know what you mean about going

on autopilot and forgetting whether you've taken your pills. I've even

been standing in the shower and forgotten whether or not I've shampooed

my hair!

Now that, I have to admit, I've never done, mainly because my hair is

long, and can be a nuisance, so it's hard to forget.

—

Marilyn

New

Orleans, Louisiana, USA

Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001

Darn Good SCD Cook

No Human Children

Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund

Babette the Foundling Beagle

[Guest guest]

Because I worry that if I don't count calories, I won't eat enough. And I worry

that if I don't keep track of all the grams, I'll end up with too much of one

thing, and not enough of another. I also can't eat too much fat, or it angers my

pancreas/biliary tract. Ugh!

Holly

Crohn's

SCD 12/01/08

>

> > Hi Jodi,

> >

> > How I wish I'd never started counting calories and grams! I started

> > entering everything into Fitday the day I started SCD, and have been

> > obsessing ever since.

>

>

> So, why are you doing that? :-)

>

> Is there a reason you think you need to count calories?

>

> n

[Guest guest]

Hey,OK, there are some major nuances that are missing from this discussion that seriously concern me.#1.There are two main types of carbs, simple sugars, and complex carbsYour body responds to them completely differently

If you are going to adjust your carb level in any way shape or form, you need to make sure that you are still getting ample amounts of each, throughout the day. And if you are gauging your physiological responses to carbs in general, it should be in consideration of each separately. And your energy feelings will be different depending on which one and how much you have eaten. This is a serious consideration in judging carbs.

I could go on endlessly about how they differently effect your body and energy feelings, and how cutting back one or the other in one way shape form or another in different situations will feel different.2. there was some discussion of fats/carbs vs. protein for " energy " . There really are different sources of energy in different ways - protein IS a source of energy, it's not as good a source of certain types of energy, but try giving up protein and you are going to get darn tired darn fast, and if you are tired, that can be a sign of not enough protein, even mental fatigue can sometimes be relieved by lean (brain friendly) proteins like eggs. The energy you need from protein can not be substituted. You need protein a little throughout the day to maintain energy. Protein is not a good source of Calories though. Calories should be gotten from carbs/fats - high protein diets that lack sufficient carbs cause problems, your body needs complex carbs, if you don't provide enough, it will basically start trying to convert protein into carbs by basically ripping off the nitrogen, which it is not good at, and strains it.

You also mentioned cutting out magnesium and continuing to take calcium. Just checking - I hope your calcium supplement has a little magnesium in it? It's not really safe to take calcium without magnesium at all - as such, most calcium supplements have some magnesium in them anyways. But not all - you have to be careful.

My greatest concern is with the original reasoning for pursiung a low-carb diet. without clear reasoning on cause and effect between a given symptom or set of symptoms or problems that you were hoping to clear up by it, I'm not sure that it was a good idea at all.

I'm very concerned that you get enough calories. There was some mention of weight, but I am unclear, are you desiring to lose weight? You mentioned some unexpected inability to lose weight, potentially caused by thyroid problems? inability to lose weight when expected can also be a big adrenal issue. lack of appetite, especially chronic and long term, can also be an adrenal sign.

For those kind of chronic lack of appetite issues I would recommend the book The Circadian Prescription by Dr. Sidney Macdonald Baker. Last I heard it was still out of print, but you can still get copies.Someone mentioned trying to mess with supplementing DHEA. My strongest concern with that is that you must always supplement selenium with it. Also, it's not exactly a graceful solution, I consider it a last resort. I would recommend other adrenal interventions, they work better anyways. One good one to start is a tablespoon of coconut oil everyday, but that should be a part of a regimen that is making sure that the adrenals are not being stressed, especially through diet, and are being supported in other ways, especially through diet.

I would not cut back carbs, especially while you are trying to keep fats low, while you are having trouble getting enough to eat and enough calories anyways, unless you are specifically trying to improve adrenal symptoms/problems through carb intake influence. And when doing so, it's best to cut back adrenal stressing carbs - concentrated sugars, especially refined sugars/carbs, of which we're not really supposed to be eating anyways, except honey, which is actually basically 'refined' by the bees, and carries the problems of many refined sugars, and is likewise addictive.

it's important to make sure if treating adrenals that you are getting enough complex carbs to support them, but excess, like excesses of any type of macronutrient, will strain them.There are much further nuances with adrenals. Certain foods that are not carby at all counterindicate with them, depending on the exact adrenal issue, and certain foods that are very carby help them very much, depending on the exact adrenal issue.

For the best information on adrenals, I would consult the book Healing With Whole Foods by Pitchford, and some of the chinese medicine described within.Also, it's important not to eat the same thing everyday. Guidelines say, ideally, a food should not be eaten more frequently than every 3 days. Well, I've never even gotten close to that in my life, though I desired to, and I don't think SCDers can, especially in the beginning, nor should try, but it's important to keep in mind. eating the same thing all the time does not just have psychological problems with it.

I would do everything you can to work with your body and support it, make sure it's getting what it needs, identify what is dysfunctioning, and support that.foods have many, many subtle nuances, and large generalities can cause massive problems.

Best wishes!p.s. I would also look up your pancreas concerns in Healing With Whole Foods while your at it

 

Because I worry that if I don't count calories, I won't eat enough. And I worry that if I don't keep track of all the grams, I'll end up with too much of one thing, and not enough of another. I also can't eat too much fat, or it angers my pancreas/biliary tract. Ugh!

Holly

Crohn's

SCD 12/01/08

>

> > Hi Jodi,

> >

> > How I wish I'd never started counting calories and grams! I started

> > entering everything into Fitday the day I started SCD, and have been

> > obsessing ever since.

>

>

> So, why are you doing that? :-)

>

> Is there a reason you think you need to count calories?

>

> n