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In a message dated 11/12/2001 1:29:51 PM Pacific Standard Time,

jeff_diane37620@... writes:

> I've considered asking about Flagyl (sp?), but am not sure.

> Seems like I've read somewhere about side effects. Can anyone

> tell me about those? If any? In the beginning, it seemed like

> certain foods gave me gas. Now everything does

I was going thru that...I took Flagyl for 7 days and had no problems with

it...not even the metal taste some talk about. The side effect that is most

prominent is the staying away from alcohol...even the smell from what my dr

said. It can make you violently ill. I would try it...and then start on the

good bacteria that Judie talks about...I'm off the Flagyl right now but

starting to get gas and I am going to do another week and do the good

bacteria...I was going to do it this time and forgot it...oh well...I'm

paying the piper...LOL

~*~ AJ ~*~

Age 37 5'8'' Post op 7/24/01 Open DS

self pay - Dr Baltasar -Alcoy Spain

07/24/01 BMI 64 415.1

08/24/01 BMI 58 386.5 -28.6 lbs!

09/24/01 BMI 55.8 367.1 -48.0 lbs! -37.75 inches

10/24/01 BMI 52.6 346.0 -69.1 lbs!

11/05/01 BMI 51.0 337.0 -78.1lbs! -63 inches

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In a message dated 11/12/2001 2:50:10 PM Pacific Standard Time,

jhensel@... writes:

> LOL Steve! I went thru the same thing with our pcp trying to get him to

> prescribe flagyl for Mike and when he wouldnt do it, went over his head and

> had Welker prescribe it at our pharmacy! Our pcp's truly do not know as

> much about this as we do! Feels good to educate them, doesnt it? (some of

> them feel very intimidated when you know more than they do!)

>

I had to print out the email from Dr. Baltasar...LOL Glad I'm not the only

one trying to convince my PCP....LMAO

~*~ AJ ~*~

Age 37 5'8'' Post op 7/24/01 Open DS

self pay - Dr Baltasar -Alcoy Spain

07/24/01 BMI 64 415.1

08/24/01 BMI 58 386.5 -28.6 lbs!

09/24/01 BMI 55.8 367.1 -48.0 lbs! -37.75 inches

10/24/01 BMI 52.6 346.0 -69.1 lbs!

11/05/01 BMI 51.0 337.0 -78.1lbs! -63 inches

My profile:

http://www.obesityhelp.com/morbidobesity/profile.phtml?N=E982002956

My websites:

www.wls4aj.homestead.com

www.wlsbellingham.homestead.com

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Diane,

Ijust finished a 30-day regime of 3 x 250 mg of Flagyl daily for just

what you are experiencing: gas. it seems that by around 2 PM every

day, I got really bloated with gas. The Flagyl seems to have worked.

I still bloat a little bit, but nothing like before. Flagyl's side

effects can (and should) be minimized by taking Acidophius mixed

cultures several times a day. That way, you re-populate your gut

with the " good' bacteria that are also killed off by Flagyl. also,

some folks report a metallic taste in their mouths from taking

Flagyl. I did not ecperienct that, but I found it to be bitter as

all getout for a few minutes after swallowing the pill. I learned to

stick it way back in my mouth and gulp it down fast to minimize the

bitterness. I was taking a generic brand, and maybe the pills were

not coated at all to minimize that effect.

BTW, my PCP was incredulous that anybody would be taking Flagyl for

other than a genital infection.

" Who gave you the Flagyl? [ " My surgeon " ]

" Why did he give you that?' [ " Because I asked him to do so. " ]

" Where did you hear that Flagyl was good for gas? " [ " On the DS and

DS_PostOpFriends lists! " ]

--Steve

At 9:28 PM +0000 11/12/01, jeff_diane37620@... wrote:

>I'm 6 months post op and like most of us post ops have terrible

>gas. I've considered asking about Flagyl (sp?), but am not sure.

>Seems like I've read somewhere about side effects.

--

Steve Goldstein, age 61

Lap BPD/DS on May 2, 2001

Dr. Elariny, INOVA Fairfax Hospital, Virginia

Starting (05/02/01) BMI = 51

BMI on 11/12 = 39 (-79 lb.) -- No longer M.O

Losing more slowly than most, but enjoying renewed health and life in general.

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In a message dated 11/12/01 6:08:31 PM Eastern Standard Time,

lookn2bthin@... writes:

<< I had to print out the email from Dr. Baltasar...LOL Glad I'm not the

only

one trying to convince my PCP....LMAO >>

I had my yearly app't with my gastroenterologist last week to get my prilosec

refilled. I asked her then if I could call her instead of my PCP if I needed

flagyl etc. She said yes, no problem. She was familiar with flagyl and

acidioph...whatever it is and very receptive to my dealing with her. So I

think a gastroenterologist is more familiar with these things.

Sheryl

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BTW, my PCP was incredulous that anybody would be taking Flagyl for

other than a genital infection.

" Who gave you the Flagyl? [ " My surgeon " ]

" Why did he give you that?' [ " Because I asked him to do so. " ]

" Where did you hear that Flagyl was good for gas? " [ " On the DS and

DS_PostOpFriends lists! " ]

--Steve>>>>>

LOL Steve! I went thru the same thing with our pcp trying to get him to

prescribe flagyl for Mike and when he wouldnt do it, went over his head and

had Welker prescribe it at our pharmacy! Our pcp's truly do not know as

much about this as we do! Feels good to educate them, doesnt it? (some of

them feel very intimidated when you know more than they do!)

Judie

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At 2:39 PM -0800 11/12/01, Judie Hensel wrote:

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>LOL Steve! I went thru the same thing with our pcp trying to get him to

>prescribe flagyl for Mike and when he wouldnt do it, went over his head and

>had Welker prescribe it at our pharmacy!

Mine said that he'd prescribe it if I insisted, but that he'd prefer

that my surgeon proscribe it. That was at around 3 months post-op.

Then, around 6 months, he must have forgotten that conversation

because he wondered why in the heck and how in the heck I got Flagyl.

>Our pcp's truly do not know as much about this as we do!

And, why would they? They hardly know about the RnY,let alone the

platinum alternative!

>Feels good to educate them, doesnt it? (

Feels even better when they are willing to listen.

>some of

>them feel very intimidated when you know more than they do!)

Nahhh! I really do not know more than my PCP does. I just am much

more familiar with my particulars than he is. But, I still need him

to manage my overall health--I keep reminding him of this when he

tries to retreat into statements of ignorance about the DS--and I am

more than willing to give him printed articles and/or fill in the

blanks as long as he is willing to listen. Since he was the one to

bring up " stomach stapling " in the first place,and since the proof of

the pudding is in my now noticeable weight loss (he finally

congratulated me on achieving my " many milestones " ), he seems quite

willing to listen, and learn. And, I use him as a sounding board for

some of the things that my surgeon is thinking about, such as going

on Phentirimine to speed up my slow weight loss--my PCP agreed with

my sense that this is a non-starter. Funny, but after I reminded my

surgeon that I have cardiac arrhythmia, my surgeon agreed that this

was not a good idea, either.

Nobody can know everything. Life is about learning. My PCP and I

are partners in keeping me healthy. As long as he upholds his part

of the partnership--and he surely does--I remain a most satisfied

customer.

--Steve

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Nobody can know everything. Life is about learning>>>>

thats true Steve, but our pcp was against the surgery to begin with and gave

in when he saw we were going to go ahead with it, with or without his

blessing!

He insisted there were over the counter remedies for gas and would not

prescribe the flagyl which is why we had Welker do it for us.

I have a question now.....whats the difference between ferrous sulfate and

ferrous gluconate (iron)??????

Judie

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Ferrous sulfate is prone to cause constipation & nausea. Ferrous

gluconate does not cause this problem, nor does it (I'm told) cause

nausea. I have heard that ferrous fumarate is the form best absorbed.

Hugs,

Liane

> I have a question now.....whats the difference between ferrous

sulfate and

> ferrous gluconate (iron)??????

>

> Judie

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At 6:10 AM +0000 11/13/01, marym@... wrote:

>Flagyl/metronidazole is *the* post gut surgery antiinfective.

>Standard post op colon surgery long before it was used for

>trichomoniasis, respiratory tract or bone infections.

>

>Godda get that doc's head out of the crotch area. LOL

ROFLMAO! --S

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