Guest guest Posted May 20, 2010 Report Share Posted May 20, 2010 Hi Jim, I can't help you specifically on your query. (Well I guess I could suggest another option- have you considered iron shots?). I just wanted to mention that although spinach is very high in iron, it is also an extremely high oxalate veggie. Oxalates tend to prevent the absorption of iron, and my guess is that the oxalates in spinach are so high, that they probably negate the iron actually in the spinach. Another thing that I think is important to keep in mind is that high levels of oxalates may also take iron from the body :0 I have low ferritin levels and generally avoid veggies that are high in oxalates for this reason. Also, I just thought of this, have you heard of raw liver pills, which you can make yourself? Here are some instructions: " There are two basic methods. One calls for freezing the liver for 14 days in large chunks. (Fourteen days will ensure the elimination of pathogens and parasites.) You can then grate the liver on the small holes of a grater and add it to milk or juice, or even hot cereal. A teaspoon or two of grated raw liver can be added to baby's egg yolk, or even to mashed vegetables. The second method turns liver into pills! Cut fresh liver into pea-sized pieces and freeze for 14 days. Swallow like vitamin pills. For both methods, the liver should be of the highest quality available and very fresh. " source: http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/foods37.php HTH Meli > > Hi all, > > I'm realize proponent of iron supplements and considers them illegal (unless they can't be avoided), but I'm pretty much out of options...I've been eating red meat and spinach like it's my job and my Blood level was a pathetic 5.7 (I think ~24 - 250 is considered normal). I can't handle the chicken liver route, any suggestions on a quasi-legal supplement? Thanks in advance. > > > Thanks, > Jim > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2010 Report Share Posted May 20, 2010 Hi Debbie, Bison is one of the best sources of iron from muscle meat. http://www.canadianbison.ca/consumer/Why_Bison/nutrition.htm I don't have a WF nearby, but when I happened to be in one a few weeks ago while out of town, they not only had ground bison, but it was also on sale! Needless to say that I picked some up- thank goodness for the cooler and the ice packs (they even froze it for me and I picked it up the next day- we were staying super close, so it was really convenient). Bison meat is really yummy, especially for being such a lean meat, I was quite surprised. Ground bison can be used like ground beef... can't comment on ostrich meat- never tried that. Meli > > I saw Bison ground meat at WF the other day. I did not even check the price > but is that any good for iron? If (big if) I managed to get some bison and > ostrich meat, would you share a recipe for each because I've never really > heard of eating ostrich. > > Thanks, > Debbie 41 cd > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2010 Report Share Posted May 20, 2010 At 10:55 PM 5/20/2010, you wrote: >> I saw Bison ground meat at WF the other day. I did not even check the price but is that any good for iron? If (big if) I managed to get some bison and ostrich meat, would you share a recipe for each because I've never really heard of eating ostrich. << The bison I use the way I would ordinarily use ground round. It's quite lean -- I actually have to put a little fat or oil in the pan when frying. I make burgers. I make hot dogs. I use it in my burger florentine, and garlic-ginger beef. Likewise Philly Cheese Beef sandwiches. I make a bison and mayo meat spread. Ostrich, I got the filets ($$$$), and cooked them medium rare on my Foreman type grill, with just a touch of black pepper. Delicious. You wouldn't know it was Bird. It tastes like steak. Incredibly filling. THe next time I order, I'm getting the 6 ounce filets, because neither Harry nor I could finish an eight ounce filet. — Marilyn New Orleans, Louisiana, USA Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001 Darn Good SCD Cook No Human Children Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund Babette the Foundling Beagle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2010 Report Share Posted May 21, 2010 Jim,I also read a study regarding vegetarian Indians who had low iron levels. Just by consuming vitamin C (pill or eating something high in C) directly after a meal containing iron increased their iron absorption (and therefore iron levels) considerably. Iron always goes with C -- it needs it for absorption. Your other option is iron shots or iron infusions. I understand the infusions are rather rough, so maybe a shot would work better. Also, you might check your B12 levels -- iron and B12 together is what most doctors will do, if they do the iron shots.AmeliaTo: BTVC-SCD Sent: Thu, May 20, 2010 9:38:31 PMSubject: Legal Iron Supplement Hi all, I'm realize proponent of iron supplements and considers them illegal (unless they can't be avoided), but I'm pretty much out of options...I've been eating red meat and spinach like it's my job and my Blood level was a pathetic 5.7 (I think ~24 - 250 is considered normal). I can't handle the chicken liver route, any suggestions on a quasi-legal supplement? Thanks in advance. Thanks, Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2010 Report Share Posted May 21, 2010 Thanks for the replies, I may try the bison. I would like to try the ostrich lol. Will check into it, sounds easy enough to cook. I've been taking 500mg Vit C since I read that here on the list. One pill twice per day after I eat. Could be coincidental but when I was doing the illegal iron supplements, I craved grape juice and drank a lot of it everyday. My iron shot up to 13.6 or something crazy high for me. It just won't stay there... Debbie 41 cd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2010 Report Share Posted May 21, 2010 Debbie,"Could be coincidental but when I was doing the illegal iron supplements, I craved grape juice and drank a lot of it everyday. "That is weird because the tannens in grape juice, tea, and red wine will interfere with iron absorption! AmeliaTo: BTVC-SCD Sent: Fri, May 21, 2010 11:27:35 AMSubject: Re: Legal Iron Supplement Thanks for the replies, I may try the bison. I would like to try the ostrich lol. Will check into it, sounds easy enough to cook. I've been taking 500mg Vit C since I read that here on the list. One pill twice per day after I eat. Could be coincidental but when I was doing the illegal iron supplements, I craved grape juice and drank a lot of it everyday. My iron shot up to 13.6 or something crazy high for me. It just won't stay there... Debbie 41 cd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2010 Report Share Posted May 21, 2010 White Welche's grape juice has tannins? I had no idea and I didn't know it interfered with iron absorption. I read dairy does. It's pure vitamin C though. Weird lol. Debbie 41 cd That is weird because the tannens in grape juice, tea, and red wine will interfere with iron absorption! Amelia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2010 Report Share Posted May 21, 2010 Debbie,Sorry, missed the 'white' part! ; ) I am not certain. My husband had tried a naturally high iron water as a supplement -- came in little sachets -- and it had a pamphlet in it that told of things to avoid when taking the iron water and grape juice was one of them. I don't recall if it specified just purple/red grape juice or not though.AmeliaTo: BTVC-SCD Sent: Fri, May 21, 2010 12:48:42 PMSubject: Re: Legal Iron Supplement White Welche's grape juice has tannins? I had no idea and I didn't know it interfered with iron absorption. I read dairy does. It's pure vitamin C though. Weird lol. Debbie 41 cd That is weird because the tannens in grape juice, tea, and red wine will interfere with iron absorption! Amelia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2010 Report Share Posted May 21, 2010 I've successfully used ground bison from WF as a replacer for ground beef in several recipes. My daughter and I tasted no real difference even in the burgers. It was pretty expensive though. I think it was 9.99/pound or something. I get it as a sometimes treat. When I get a deep freeze, I'm going to invest in the larger amounts you can get online from sources Marilyn has posted before. Right now I just don't have the room or the funds to eat that stuff all the time. I have never had ostrich. Misty Kimble CD - no meds SCD - 2 + years > > I saw Bison ground meat at WF the other day. I did not even check the price but is that any good for iron? If (big if) I managed to get some bison and ostrich meat, would you share a recipe for each because I've never really heard of eating ostrich. > > Thanks, > Debbie 41 cd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2010 Report Share Posted May 21, 2010 stop n shop and bj's have ground bison - you can make burgers - i still can't handle gr beef??? but ok with bison -yet i eat tons of fat so who knows why??? eileen > > Thanks for the replies, I may try the bison. > > I would like to try the ostrich lol. Will check into it, sounds easy enough > to cook. > > I've been taking 500mg Vit C since I read that here on the list. One pill > twice per day after I eat. Could be coincidental but when I was doing the > illegal iron supplements, I craved grape juice and drank a lot of it > everyday. My iron shot up to 13.6 or something crazy high for me. It just > won't stay there... > > Debbie 41 cd > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2010 Report Share Posted May 21, 2010 I love buffalo burgers! You can get them for a great price at Trader Joes. Here is my favorite ground buffalo recipe (by the way, I've even found ground buffalo at the " regular " grocery store). I believe this is from the pecanbread site except they use regular beef... 1 lb. ground buffalo 1 egg 1/2 avocado 1/4 cup pureed squash Mash everything together and bake in loaf pan or 9x9 pan for about 40 minutes at 350- so easy and good! -Joanna > > > > > > I saw Bison ground meat at WF the other day. I did not even check the price but is that any good for iron? If (big if) I managed to get some bison and ostrich meat, would you share a recipe for each because I've never really heard of eating ostrich. > > > > Thanks, > > Debbie 41 cd > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 2010 Report Share Posted May 23, 2010 Bison is pretty indistinguishable from beef. My difficult dad refused eat the bison roast my mom cooked. So when we made bison burgers, we just said it was hamburgers. He didn't know the difference, but my mom still won't let me tell him that he's been tricked ;-). Holly Crohn's SCD 12/01/08 > > Hi Debbie, > Bison is one of the best sources of iron from muscle meat. http://www.canadianbison.ca/consumer/Why_Bison/nutrition.htm I don't have a WF nearby, but when I happened to be in one a few weeks ago while out of town, they not only had ground bison, but it was also on sale! Needless to say that I picked some up- thank goodness for the cooler and the ice packs (they even froze it for me and I picked it up the next day- we were staying super close, so it was really convenient). Bison meat is really yummy, especially for being such a lean meat, I was quite surprised. Ground bison can be used like ground beef... can't comment on ostrich meat- never tried that. > > Meli Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 2010 Report Share Posted May 23, 2010 At 01:29 AM 5/23/2010, you wrote: Bison is pretty indistinguishable from beef. My difficult dad refused eat the bison roast my mom cooked. So when we made bison burgers, we just said it was hamburgers. He didn't know the difference, but my mom still won't let me tell him that he's been tricked ;-). LOL! I brought some bison when we visited my sister last year. My B-i-L grumbled because it wasn't beef. So, like your hamburgers, the next time, we didn't say anything until after he'd finished. Whereupon he " knew there was something wrong with it. " — Marilyn New Orleans, Louisiana, USA Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001 Darn Good SCD Cook No Human Children Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund Babette the Foundling Beagle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 2010 Report Share Posted May 23, 2010 I bought some of the Whole Food's ground bison and cooked it up in burger patties on the BBQ this weekend. With just a tiny bit of salt and pepper, it was the most delicious thing ever! I'm a convert (as long as it's on sale). W. Lymphocytic (not Ulcerative) Colitis 2.5 years SCD 3 weeks Entocort 6mg/day 1/2 Imodium/day > > Bison is pretty indistinguishable from beef. My difficult dad refused eat the bison roast my mom cooked. So when we made bison burgers, we just said it was hamburgers. He didn't know the difference, but my mom still won't let me tell him that he's been tricked ;-). > > Holly > Crohn's > SCD 12/01/08 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2010 Report Share Posted May 24, 2010 At 01:44 PM 5/24/2010, you wrote: Isn't it the truth? My uncle always loved cakes and my Grandmother loved baking them for him (and I guess he didn't have gut troubles as he ate what he wanted for 94 years). One time she baked a cherry cake for him and he said it was the most delicious thing he'd ever had, and please tell him what went into it? She refused, she said he wouldn't like it if she told him. He said that was ridiculous, he already thought it was the best cake in the world, etc etc. She finally told him that what gave the cake that little extra zing was black pepper. He never touched another bite of it. Lol! It's amazing, the depth of flavor a touch of pepper can add to an otherwise sweet dish. And so many people are appaled because pepper is something that goes on meat, not in a dessert! — Marilyn New Orleans, Louisiana, USA Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001 Darn Good SCD Cook No Human Children Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund Babette the Foundling Beagle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 25, 2010 Report Share Posted May 25, 2010 Lol! It's amazing, the depth of flavor a touch of pepper can add to an otherwise sweet dish. And so many people are appaled because pepper is something that goes on meat, not in a dessert! — Marilyn Yes, it is amazing. My DH would be another who wouldn't touch it. But then, he's got a lot of set-in-his-ways ideas about food. He'd starve to death rather than eat an egg anytime but breakfast, for example. It's really a good thing it's ME on this diet and not him! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2010 Report Share Posted May 26, 2010 At 01:52 AM 5/26/2010, you wrote: Ahh, so my mom was wise to keep me from blabbing :-). Precisely. Now, oddly, my husband PREFERS the bison.... then again, he thinks SCD is a great way to eat. And he's listened to all my commentary about why grass-fed is better, etc. — Marilyn New Orleans, Louisiana, USA Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001 Darn Good SCD Cook No Human Children Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund Babette the Foundling Beagle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2010 Report Share Posted May 28, 2010 Next week is Bison week at my local Sprout's market! If you have a Sprout's near you, check it out, it might be a chain-wide deal. Holly Crohn's SCD 12/01/08 > >Ahh, so my mom was wise to keep me from blabbing :-). > > Precisely. Now, oddly, my husband PREFERS the > bison.... then again, he thinks SCD is a great > way to eat. And he's listened to all my > commentary about why grass-fed is better, etc. > > > — Marilyn > New Orleans, Louisiana, USA > Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001 > Darn Good SCD Cook > No Human Children > Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund > Babette the Foundling Beagle > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2010 Report Share Posted May 28, 2010 Sadly, I just heard from the good people at Trader Joes that there is a " shortage " of buffalo. So either people are catching on and eating a lot more, or our population is really taking a toll on our food supply. I think this might mean more expensive meat for a while- you better stock up at Sprouts! TJs isn't even carrying the burgers any more -Joanna > > >Ahh, so my mom was wise to keep me from blabbing :-). > > > > Precisely. Now, oddly, my husband PREFERS the > > bison.... then again, he thinks SCD is a great > > way to eat. And he's listened to all my > > commentary about why grass-fed is better, etc. > > > > > > — Marilyn > > New Orleans, Louisiana, USA > > Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001 > > Darn Good SCD Cook > > No Human Children > > Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund > > Babette the Foundling Beagle > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2010 Report Share Posted May 29, 2010 Ugh! People probably are catching on to the goodness that is bison. Maybe they've all seen Food Inc. and are now grossed out by conventional food ;-). I'll be sure to pick up several packs next week! Holly Crohn's SCD 12/01/08 > > > > Next week is Bison week at my local Sprout's market! If you have a Sprout's near you, check it out, it might be a chain-wide deal. > > > > Holly > > Crohn's > > SCD 12/01/08 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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