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Cees,Even though there are concentrators with higher liter flow, please do not suggest this to your friend with copd. Copd patients have a reverse problem from us---they can get enough air in but cannot get rid of their air and thus develop an excess of C02 which can be deadly for them. Their supplement oxygen needs are monitored pretty closely and they are told to not turn their flow up without approval.Roxanne, 59, South Carolina

2006 Asthma/ PF

2008 PF/ Sarcoidosis/Gerd

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Roxanne

Always a good reminder that while PF'ers and COPD'ers share the general

problem of lungs and breathing and needing oxygen, the diseases are

completely different. Therefore, advice about either of the diseases can

be very wrong for the other. It would be extremely rare for a COPD

patient to need a higher flow than 5 lpm (Except during acute

exacerbation). In fact, there are some COPD doctors who feel like they

should never go above 3 lpm. Note I'm not saying they're the experts,

just that is a somewhat frequent statement. So to anyone if you're

talking to COPD'ers just always keep in mind that what's good for one

may be bad for the other. And if your doctor only has COPD patients then

run to find one who knows PF.

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