Re: Need some support from you guys..........

[Guest guest]

Pam,

First of all calm down. I will bet that many of the calories in those

cookies are from fat. Remember we don't absorb much of the fat. You will

maximize your weight loss if you stay away from these thing, but it will not

totally sabotage your weight loss to have some. Keep that in mind that you

CAN have some of these things. If you keep thinking you are good or bad, you

will be more drawn to binge. Have a few cookies and walk away. If a while

later you want a few more, have them. You will be suprised the magic that

leaves these foods when you legalize them. There are good books on this such

as Overcoming Overeating, Seven Habits of Slim People, and Breaking Free. If

you are really concerned, read some of these. They will help.

Dawn--South Suburban Chicago area

Dr. Hess, Bowling Green, OH

BPD/DS

4/27/00

www.duodenalswitch.com

267 to 165  5'  4 "

size 22 to size 10

have made size goal

no more high blood pressure, sore feet, or dieting

[Guest guest]

Pam,

I am so glad you posted this as I am having the same issue. Not with

Girl Scout cookies, my cravings are not that specific. Sometimes its

chocolate (which I hadn't experienced in months), other times its

just standard issue junk (pretzels, popcorn etc.).

This started for me about 3 weeks ago, which would bring us to

approximately the same amount of time out from surgery. I recall

seeing posts on this issue with the " surgery doesn't solve your

problems....food issues, etc. " tone to it. That seems to make sense

for me personally.

It is sort of like a reality check for me, that this is a tool and

the issues that got me to this place, have not gone away. I will

probably always struggle with food to a degree and can only use this

surgery as a the tool it was intended.

It seems I have more guilt when I stray now because I know consuming

an undesirable food choice will prevent me from getting what I need

nutritionally, as I can only hold so much these days (thankfully).

Just this morning I ate a huge corn muffin and then had guilt because

I know it had absolutely no nutritional value in it, considering my

protein needs are not being met daily. I was also surprised that I

finished it, albeit the surprise of course occurred after the

consumption! I am feeling very non-compliant and diet minded at the

moment and I am not too thrilled about it.

I look forward to the responses to your post, perhaps I can get off

the guilts.

Sondra

6/18/01 w/Dr. Herron @ Mt. Sinai

-100+ pds

> Hi All,

>

> I haven't posted in a while -- things have been a little crazy

around here!!

> Anyway, I have something that concerns me that I want to run past

you all.

> These past few days, I've been going a little crazy with

eating " bad " things.

> By bad things, I mean specifically Girl Scout cookies. I don't

know exactly

> WHAT is going on, but I'm scared, because I feel I'm going back to

my " old

> ways " of eating already. I've found that I've ventured in to the

kitchen

> when I'm NOT hungry, and there I am, in the box of girl scout

cookies.

> Granted, I can't eat nearly as many as I did before the surgery in

ONE

> SITTING, but I can eat just as many spaced out, which adds up to

the SAME

> sugar, and the SAME absorbed calories. I've got myself a little

freaked out

> over this, because we've had quite a bit of junk food in the house

lately,

> and it hasn't phased me at ALL. Now all of a sudden, it's

bothering me.

> Now, I know that the logical thing to do is to GET RID OF IT, which

I will,

> but that's not what's concerning me. The fact that it bothers me

so much is

> what concerns me. HELP!!! Have any of you experienced this? Any

> suggestions?

>

> Hugs,

>

>

> Pam in MD

> BPD/DS - July 9, 2001

> Dr. Vanguri

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Pam

Since you came clean I am going to come clean.....I try and get all my protein

for the day once I do all bets are off so that means I have a few olives, I have

a few Rocher chocolates, I have cheese and my personal down fall salsa and chips

I dont know why but I am addicted to the stuff I have compromised with myself

and now add cheese (for the protein of course) but I dont think anyone here is

perfect...The one thing I am becoming manical about is the protein intake after

that I eat whatever I want....The other thing I have learned is the following:

Once I make a food forbidden that is all I will want to eat, now if I tell

myself you can have as much as you want and then go ahead and OD on it that

pretty much takes care of the craving for a looooooooooooooooooooong time so

maybe not calling them bad will help it seems to help me.....Hang in there kid

you are doing great dont beat yourself up now!

*hugs*

Lisbeth

pamjams2@... wrote: Hi All,

I haven't posted in a while -- things have been a little crazy around here!!

Anyway, I have something that concerns me that I want to run past you all.

These past few days, I've been going a little crazy with eating " bad " things.

By bad things, I mean specifically Girl Scout cookies. I don't know exactly

WHAT is going on, but I'm scared, because I feel I'm going back to my " old

ways " of eating already. I've found that I've ventured in to the kitchen

when I'm NOT hungry, and there I am, in the box of girl scout cookies.

Granted, I can't eat nearly as many as I did before the surgery in ONE

SITTING, but I can eat just as many spaced out, which adds up to the SAME

sugar, and the SAME absorbed calories. I've got myself a little freaked out

over this, because we've had quite a bit of junk food in the house lately,

and it hasn't phased me at ALL. Now all of a sudden, it's bothering me.

Now, I know that the logical thing to do is to GET RID OF IT, which I will,

but that's not what's concerning me. The fact that it bothers me so much is

what concerns me. HELP!!! Have any of you experienced this? Any

suggestions?

Hugs,

Pam in MD

BPD/DS - July 9, 2001

Dr. Vanguri

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 10/22/01 10:53:29 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

sage@... writes:

> Hmmmmmmmmm. I wonder what it is to which I can attribute my cravings for

> chocolate, etc. . . .

>

>

I would be more than happy to pass on my monthly visitor....LOL I've had the

excuse long enough...<G>

~*~ AJ ~*~

Bellingham, WA

Age 37 5'8'' Open DS

self pay - Dr Baltasar -Alcoy Spain

07/24/01 BMI 64 415.1

08/24/01 BMI 58 386.5 -28.6 lbs!

09/24/01 BMI 55.8 367.1 -48.0 lbs! -37.75 inches

10/21/01 BMI 52.9 348.0 -67.1 lbs! -50.0 inches

My profile:

http://www.obesityhelp.com/morbidobesity/profile.phtml?N=E982002956

My website:

www.wls4aj.homestead.com

[Guest guest]

it's probably just a temporary craving thing. i get hit the week

before my period and want chocolate or sweet/salty type snacks.

sometimes i crave a particular thing really bad, so i get it and eat

some, then the crave is satisfied for quite a long while.

and those girl scout cookies are gonna be gone soon, with you and the

family eating them. so unless you bought cases of the things, don't

sweat it. eat your protein, then have a bloody cookie!

mary y.

> Hi All,

>

> I haven't posted in a while -- things have been a little crazy

around here!!

> Anyway, I have something that concerns me that I want to run past

you all.

> These past few days, I've been going a little crazy with

eating " bad " things.

> By bad things, I mean specifically Girl Scout cookies. I don't

know exactly

> WHAT is going on, but I'm scared, because I feel I'm going back to

my " old

> ways " of eating already. I've found that I've ventured in to the

kitchen

> when I'm NOT hungry, and there I am, in the box of girl scout

cookies.

> Granted, I can't eat nearly as many as I did before the surgery in

ONE

> SITTING, but I can eat just as many spaced out, which adds up to

the SAME

> sugar, and the SAME absorbed calories. I've got myself a little

freaked out

> over this, because we've had quite a bit of junk food in the house

lately,

> and it hasn't phased me at ALL. Now all of a sudden, it's

bothering me.

> Now, I know that the logical thing to do is to GET RID OF IT, which

I will,

> but that's not what's concerning me. The fact that it bothers me

so much is

> what concerns me. HELP!!! Have any of you experienced this? Any

> suggestions?

>

> Hugs,

>

>

> Pam in MD

> BPD/DS - July 9, 2001

> Dr. Vanguri

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi -

You said: " I get hit the week before my period and want chocolate . . . "

Hmmmmmmmmm. I wonder what it is to which I can attribute my cravings for

chocolate, etc. . . .

Best-

Nick in Sage

[Guest guest]

Hey Guys,

I had to change excuses several years ago, due to menopause, so now I

just say I'm fond of the hormonal properties it emulates: the feeling

of being newly in love!!!! Not to mention that it is totally

delish!!!

> In a message dated 10/22/01 10:53:29 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

> sage@i... writes:

>

>

> > Hmmmmmmmmm. I wonder what it is to which I can attribute my

cravings for

> > chocolate, etc. . . .

> >

> >

>

> I would be more than happy to pass on my monthly visitor....LOL

I've had the

> excuse long enough...<G>

>

> ~*~ AJ ~*~

> Bellingham, WA

> Age 37 5'8'' Open DS

> self pay - Dr Baltasar -Alcoy Spain

> 07/24/01 BMI 64 415.1

> 08/24/01 BMI 58 386.5 -28.6 lbs!

> 09/24/01 BMI 55.8 367.1 -48.0 lbs! -37.75 inches

> 10/21/01 BMI 52.9 348.0 -67.1 lbs! -50.0 inches

> My profile:

> http://www.obesityhelp.com/morbidobesity/profile.phtml?N=E982002956

> My website:

> www.wls4aj.homestead.com

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Nick,

Yer leaving yerself wide open on that one my friend! rotflmao...I

can usually tell when you are on the...oh, hell, you know!

winking at ya,

Theresa

> Hi -

>

> You said: " I get hit the week before my period and want

chocolate . . . "

>

> Hmmmmmmmmm. I wonder what it is to which I can attribute my

cravings for

> chocolate, etc. . . .

>

> Best-

>

> Nick in Sage