Re: Interesting information on the effects on yogurt if incubated for 24hrs

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The above is interesting. It is rather concerning that 24hrs of incubation reduces the probiotics although they don't say whether some, most or all are effected. It should be noted that the information was provided by their laboratory manager.Hi Steve,This is from Elaine: "I just received a lab report about the difference in the numbers(CFU's)(colony forming units) of bacteria in 12 hour fermented yogurt and 24hour fermented yogurt.In 12 hour fermented yogurt - Average CFU's was 65 million/gramIn 24 hour fermented yogurt - Average CFU's was 470 million/gramBoth of these tests were done on unpasteurized goat's milk using the same probiotic."Elaine had these tests done a few years before she died and I'd rather believe her since the 24 hr yogurt does help us.Take care,Pat

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At 04:08 PM 5/5/2010, you wrote:

The above is interesting. It is

rather concerning that 24hrs of incubation reduces the probiotics

although they don't say whether some, most or all are effected. It should

be noted that the information was provided by their laboratory

manager.

Well, first of all, they're citing their CBA starter, which is not the

starter we use.

And yes, the pH does change -- that's what causes the yogurt to thicken.

—

Marilyn

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You're going one step beyond pasteurizing the milk when you heat it to 180F+ and then cool it down anyway. So, if you start with pasturized or not, it doesn't matter because in the end you'll have the same result. Ohh, I guess I misunderstood the unpasteurized part. I thought it meant that they actually used raw milk, and didn't heat it to 180 at all. My bad! Peace =)Alyssa 16 yo UC April 2008, dx Sept 2008SCD June 2009 (restarted)Azathioprine 75 mg 1x per dayPrednisone 30 mg 1x per day

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The fact is that we rightly spend a lot of time making sure that all of our

supplements are free from any disaccharide and polysacharide carbohydrates yet

it seems that our yogurt still contains some lactose and equally if Yogourmet's

2010 laboratory state that probiotics have problems with high acidity that

results after 24hrs of incubation then perhaps this is something we need to take

on board, particularly those who struggle with consuming yogurt.

Steve

SCD 4mths

Constant nausea and stomach discomfort 20mths

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At 04:56 PM 5/6/2010, you wrote:

particularly those who struggle

with consuming yogurt.

Some people ferment their yogurt for 24 hours as recommended, then add a

suitable amount of Lacteeze drops, stir well, and place in the

refrigerator for an additional 24 hours.

—

Marilyn

New

Orleans, Louisiana, USA

Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001

Darn Good SCD Cook

No Human Children

Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund

Babette the Foundling Beagle

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Are these lacteeze drops located anywhere at local stores?  I've searched everywhere, even WF and can't find them.  If they are only available online, pls let me know.

 

thanks,

Debbie 41 cd

On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 5:27 PM, Wizop Marilyn L. Alm wrote:

 

At 04:56 PM 5/6/2010, you wrote:

particularly those who struggle with consuming yogurt.Some people ferment their yogurt for 24 hours as recommended, then add a suitable amount of Lacteeze drops, stir well, and place in the refrigerator for an additional 24 hours.

— Marilyn    New Orleans, Louisiana, USA    Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001    Darn Good SCD Cook

    No Human Children    Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund     Babette the Foundling Beagle       

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At 06:19 PM 5/6/2010, you wrote:

Are these lacteeze drops located

anywhere at local stores? I've searched everywhere, even WF and

can't find them. If they are only available online, pls let me

know.

I don't know if they're available in YOUR local stores.

For on-line, just search on " lacteeze. "

http://digestmilk.com/lacteezexl.html is one site I've heard

of, although I cannot recommend them personally, as I have not bought

from them.

—

Marilyn

New

Orleans, Louisiana, USA

Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001

Darn Good SCD Cook

No Human Children

Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund

Babette the Foundling Beagle

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AmazonBut if you are severely lactose intolerant, they don't work.MaraAre these lacteeze drops located anywhere at local stores? I've searched everywhere, even WF and can't find them. If they are only available online, pls let me know. thanks,Debbie 41 cdOn Thu, May 6, 2010 at 5:27 PM, Wizop Marilyn L. Alm wrote: At 04:56 PM 5/6/2010, you wrote:particularly those who struggle with consuming yogurt.Some people ferment their yogurt for 24 hours as recommended, then add a suitable amount of Lacteeze drops, stir well, and place in the refrigerator for an additional 24 hours.— Marilyn New Orleans, Louisiana, USA Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001 Darn Good SCD Cook No Human Children Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund Babette the Foundling Beagle

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I bought my lacteeze drops from Amazon.com-UC - 1+ yearsSCD - 8 months 100% strict and 4 months restricted diet.Asacol - 12 pills a day Prednisone 40mg entocort With vit E mixed inBack to intro/stage 1 for now.To: BTVC-SCD From: LouisianaSCDLagniappe@...Date: Thu, 6 May 2010 19:01:21 -0500Subject: Re: Re: Interesting information on the effects on yogurt if incubated for 24hrs

At 06:19 PM 5/6/2010, you wrote:

Are these lacteeze drops located

anywhere at local stores? I've searched everywhere, even WF and

can't find them. If they are only available online, pls let me

know.

I don't know if they're available in YOUR local stores.

For on-line, just search on "lacteeze."

http://digestmilk.com/lacteezexl.html is one site I've heard

of, although I cannot recommend them personally, as I have not bought

from them.

—

Marilyn

New

Orleans, Louisiana, USA

Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001

Darn Good SCD Cook

No Human Children

Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund

Babette the Foundling Beagle

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[Guest guest]

> The fact is that we rightly spend a lot of time making sure that all of our

supplements are free from any disaccharide and polysacharide carbohydrates yet

it seems that our yogurt still contains some lactose and equally if Yogourmet's

2010 laboratory state that probiotics have problems with high acidity that

results after 24hrs of incubation then perhaps this is something we need to take

on board, particularly those who struggle with consuming yogurt.

Which probiotics are in the sample they discussed, since they don't use the one

we use?

Also, acidophilus does not have problems with acid - the very name means acid

loving.

Thirdly, if you are having problems with dairy yogurt, make coconut yogurt.

There's been enough

discussion of it lately. No lactose and recipe is in the files.

Mara