Guest guest Posted October 5, 2001 Report Share Posted October 5, 2001 In a message dated 10/5/2001 2:05:51 PM Pacific Daylight Time, anne@... writes: > Struggling with the possibility my insurance will never pay for the DS, I of > course have to give some thought to the RNY. I understand if a physician > truly believes that the RNY is the better surgery; however, as I have been > looking at their websites, something that really bothers me is almost a > sense that they " savor " the thought that their patients will get the > " dumping syndrome " if they eat something too sweet. The following is a > quote from one group: > > They do savor it...they think we have to suffer to be thin. I would much rather eat as the normal size people do..including sweets now and then rather than be punished for doing what is natural. Nothing is bad for you if you eat it in moderation. So why should we have to have a physical reaction to something that tastes good! They can't even take some liquid medicines because of the surgar.! ~*~ AJ ~*~ Age 37 5'8'' Post op 7/24/01 Open DS self pay - Dr Baltasar -Alcoy Spain 07/24/01 BMI 64 415.1 08/06/01 BMI 59 390.2 -24.9 lbs! 08/16/01 BMI 58 387.0 -27.9 lbs! 08/24/01 BMI 58 386.5 -28.6 lbs! 08/30/01 BMI 58 378.3 -36.8 lbs! 09/10/01 BMI 56.7 373.0 -42.1 lbs! 09/24/01 BMI 55.8 367.1 -48.0 lbs! -37.75 inches Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2001 Report Share Posted October 5, 2001 Struggling with the possibility my insurance will never pay for the DS, I of course have to give some thought to the RNY. I understand if a physician truly believes that the RNY is the better surgery; however, as I have been looking at their websites, something that really bothers me is almost a sense that they " savor " the thought that their patients will get the " dumping syndrome " if they eat something too sweet. The following is a quote from one group: " The reason some surgeons feel that the gastric bypass is a better operation than the vertical banded gastroplasty (VBG) is that gastric bypass patients tolerate sweets poorly. If a GBP patient eats anything with significant amounts of sugar in it, that patient will often feel a little light headed and experience some palpitations (heart flutters), as well as occasionally having cold sweats. These symptoms usually only last a few minutes, but they are not pleasant. We call it " The Dumping Syndrome " and what this accomplishes is that it conditions most persons against eating sweets. " Perhaps I am too sensitive.... Elle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2001 Report Share Posted October 5, 2001 Elle, I totally agree with your assement on the " dumping syndrome " . Basically the surgones have taken what is a terrible side effect of their procedure and claimed it as a virtue. There was a published clinical study that attempted to show that dumping was responsible for improved weight loss in RNY patients that suffer it. Guess what, there was no weight loss difference between the dumpers (about 74%) and the non-dumpers! So the scientific evidence belies their claims. The RNY is more succesfull than VBG primarilly because it has a small amount of malabsorption and it is less prone to mechanical failure. Antoher rather tortous argument applies to the AGB (though I haven't seen this one advertised). If patients become non-compliant the phsyican can tighten the noose ... I mean band ... until the patient becomes fully compliant. Disobdence need not be tolerated with this procedure! It reminds me of an original Star Trek episode where the alians made their slaves where collars which would tighten if they were caugt doing anything that displeased their masters (LOL). Hull > Struggling with the possibility my insurance will never pay for the DS, I of > course have to give some thought to the RNY. I understand if a physician > truly believes that the RNY is the better surgery; however, as I have been > looking at their websites, something that really bothers me is almost a > sense that they " savor " the thought that their patients will get the > " dumping syndrome " if they eat something too sweet. The following is a > quote from one group: > > " The reason some surgeons feel that the gastric bypass is a better operation > than the vertical banded gastroplasty (VBG) is that gastric bypass patients > tolerate sweets poorly. If a GBP patient eats anything with significant > amounts of sugar in it, that patient will often feel a little light headed > and experience some palpitations (heart flutters), as well as occasionally > having cold sweats. These symptoms usually only last a few minutes, but they > are not pleasant. We call it " The Dumping Syndrome " and what this > accomplishes is that it conditions most persons against eating sweets. " > > Perhaps I am too sensitive.... > > Elle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2001 Report Share Posted October 5, 2001 Just a thought...lol >>>>> LOL .......I think so too!! Hugs, Judie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2001 Report Share Posted October 5, 2001 You hit the nail on the head so to speak. When I originally looked at wls 4 years ago, The surgeon stressed that a great part of the surgery was that if I ate sugary foods I would feel uncomfortable and this is a great deterant from eating sweets. B pre-op 11-13-01 Wt. 308 BMI 49 --- Ellen Rowley wrote: > Struggling with the possibility my insurance will > never pay for the DS, I of > course have to give some thought to the RNY. I > understand if a physician > truly believes that the RNY is the better surgery; > however, as I have been > looking at their websites, something that really > bothers me is almost a > sense that they " savor " the thought that their > patients will get the > " dumping syndrome " if they eat something too sweet. > The following is a > quote from one group: > > " The reason some surgeons feel that the gastric > bypass is a better operation > than the vertical banded gastroplasty (VBG) is that > gastric bypass patients > tolerate sweets poorly. If a GBP patient eats > anything with significant > amounts of sugar in it, that patient will often feel > a little light headed > and experience some palpitations (heart flutters), > as well as occasionally > having cold sweats. These symptoms usually only last > a few minutes, but they > are not pleasant. We call it " The Dumping Syndrome " > and what this > accomplishes is that it conditions most persons > against eating sweets. " > > Perhaps I am too sensitive.... > > Elle > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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