Guest guest Posted November 8, 2001 Report Share Posted November 8, 2001 Theresa~ Every year we invite our Jewish neighbors over for Thanksgiving dinner and Easter (yes, I said Easter) dinner. The mother, who actually converted, will not eat pork. However, that ham is nearly devoured by the father and the boy. I think it's funny, too. In exchange, they invite us over for one of the nights of Hannukah. Growing up, it was a good way to learn about other types of people. > Laughing, my best friend is an Israeli, and a couple > of thanksgivings ago, I invited he and a couple of his > employees for dinner. To a person, guess what they > wanted for dinner? You got it, pork! Grinning. Its a > treat they didn't get to often in Israel, so boy, they > got carnitas, and ham and everything else I can think > of! > *********** > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2001 Report Share Posted November 8, 2001 At 7:17 AM -0800 11/8/01, Dee wrote: >... > >This may sound dumb but what the heck! Is pork sold >in Israel? I mean, is there a pig anywhere there? >I'm trying to think what else pigs are good for >(besides a good BLT, LOL) but I can't think of >anything! I am not sure whether or not pork products are sold in Israel. Neither observant Jews nor Moslems may eat pork products, but, of course, there are also Christians in Israel. The government in Israel is a multi-party parliamentary democracy. There are quite a few parties. So, it is tough for any government to get a majority in the parliament without including some of the smaller, splinter parties. The ultra-religious party(ies) manage to exert an inordinate control over how things play out in Israel by agreeing to join coalition governments only if their demands for religious law are incorporated into civil law (such as closing down public transportation on the Sabbath). So, they may also have succeeded in banning non-kosher foods such as pork products. I just don't know. As an aside, even beef that is prepared according to kosher precepts tastes a good deal different, because it has to be salted first to draw out the blood, and meat from the hindquarters (loin) is not eaten, So, for example, feast on pot roast, but forget a juicy, rare tenderloin. More than you ever wanted to know? --Steve (born and raised Jewish, but a practicing Ethical Culturist that loves carnitas de puerco, mooshi pork, et al.) -- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2001 Report Share Posted November 8, 2001 Dee, What I have been told, so understand that I have no first hand knowledge, is that because Israel is both a religious and secular state, pork can be had there, but it costs up the butt! Now, any good religious, god fearing, faithful will NOT eat pork and I try to be sensitive to that when I have guests. What I was taught is that all jews are not religious...(don't know why I was so stupid to think everyone has to be the same) and many are just as patriotic and nationalistic as I am, without the orthodoxy attached! So yes, you can get pork in Israel if you have a lot of money and know where to go! Laughing, Theresa > Laughing, my best friend is an Israeli, and a couple > of thanksgivings ago, I invited he and a couple of his > employees for dinner. To a person, guess what they > wanted for dinner? You got it, pork! Grinning. Its a > treat they didn't get to often in Israel, so boy, they > got carnitas, and ham and everything else I can think > of! > *********** > > This may sound dumb but what the heck! Is pork sold > in Israel? I mean, is there a pig anywhere there? > I'm trying to think what else pigs are good for > (besides a good BLT, LOL) but I can't think of > anything! > > The subject reminds me of something. My good friend, > , converted when she married a Jewish guy. > She said of all names to be named at birth it just HAD > to be ! Anyway, she's taught me alot about > the traditions and I'm just fascinated by it all. I > am so naive, though. I was shocked when she said Jews > don't believe Jesus was the son of God. I thought she > was kidding! When I asked her if Jews thought Jesus > existed at all, she said that, yes, but they thought > he was just a " cool dude " instead of son of God. (I > think she was dumbing it down so I'd understand!) > > Anyway, not remembering the majority of the world > doesn't think Jesus was God's son, I ran to my church > and asked the Father (I'm Church of England, otherwise > known as Catholic-lite) what happens to people who > deny Jesus as the Son - what happens when they die? > Do they go to heaven too? Seriously, I was afraid for > them! I just couldn't believe that Barbra Streisand, > Albert Einstein, and so many others wouldn't/didn't go > to Heaven! Even my friend I was worried about > her too and her future kids, etc.! > > Father told me it's ok - ANYONE who is " good " will go > there. Whew, what a relief! > > > I didn't post this to start religious wars, etc. but > rather to tell a sort of humerous story. Truly, I > hope I haven't offended anyone. But the pork thing > brought back these memories and I wanted to share. > > ===== > Dee > Waiting for Ins. Co. Approval > 313/Want to be 165 > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2001 Report Share Posted November 8, 2001 toni, I agree wholeheartedly. There is nothing so exciting and heart warming as being invited in to someones home to share and learn their traditions. I love learning about other cultures and practices. Since I grew up with Spanish as my first language, and because I was a French major, I found that i could fake it in any of the romance languages. This gave me an opportunity growing up in San Francisco, one of the wackiest and most diverse cities on the face of the earth, to experience so many different cultures. I could converse with my best friends Italian grandma, which my girlfriend could not do, and so I was taught home made cooking by a native. I remember attending feshes (sp) irish celebrations where my girlfriends would recite prayers in gaelic and tap dance... and my favorite was eating at my asian friends home. Damn hot and spicy...I loved it! Laughing. > > Laughing, my best friend is an Israeli, and a couple > > of thanksgivings ago, I invited he and a couple of his > > employees for dinner. To a person, guess what they > > wanted for dinner? You got it, pork! Grinning. Its a > > treat they didn't get to often in Israel, so boy, they > > got carnitas, and ham and everything else I can think > > of! > > *********** > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2001 Report Share Posted November 8, 2001 Laughing...Steve, you make it over to the west coast and I will spoil you rotten with Carnitas de puerco! Hugs, theresa > >... > > > >This may sound dumb but what the heck! Is pork sold > >in Israel? I mean, is there a pig anywhere there? > >I'm trying to think what else pigs are good for > >(besides a good BLT, LOL) but I can't think of > >anything! > > > I am not sure whether or not pork products are sold in Israel. > Neither observant Jews nor Moslems may eat pork products, but, of > course, there are also Christians in Israel. The government in > Israel is a multi-party parliamentary democracy. There are quite a > few parties. So, it is tough for any government to get a majority in > the parliament without including some of the smaller, splinter > parties. The ultra-religious party(ies) manage to exert an > inordinate control over how things play out in Israel by agreeing to > join coalition governments only if their demands for religious law > are incorporated into civil law (such as closing down public > transportation on the Sabbath). So, they may also have succeeded in > banning non-kosher foods such as pork products. I just don't know. > As an aside, even beef that is prepared according to kosher precepts > tastes a good deal different, because it has to be salted first to > draw out the blood, and meat from the hindquarters (loin) is not > eaten, So, for example, feast on pot roast, but forget a juicy, rare > tenderloin. More than you ever wanted to know? > > --Steve (born and raised Jewish, but a practicing Ethical Culturist > that loves carnitas de puerco, mooshi pork, et al.) > -- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2001 Report Share Posted November 8, 2001 At 6:38 PM +0000 11/8/01, Theresa wrote: >Laughing...Steve, you make it over to the west coast and I will spoil >you rotten with Carnitas de puerco! > ! Trato hecho--de acuerdo ! Un abrazo, --Steve -- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2001 Report Share Posted November 8, 2001 You are to damn cute LOL....You write better spanish than I do damn it LOL Lisbeth Steve Goldstein wrote: ! Trato hecho--de acuerdo ! Un abrazo, --Steve -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2001 Report Share Posted November 8, 2001 I don't recall seeing pork *ever* during my time in Israel. (I lived there for 4 months.) That doesn't mean it's not there -- but I never saw any. Like Steve said, I wouldn't be surprised if the ultra-religious had it banned. ~alyssa duodenalswitch wrote: This may sound dumb but what the heck! Is pork sold in Israel? I mean, is there a pig anywhere there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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