Guest guest Posted April 6, 2010 Report Share Posted April 6, 2010 feel fine i eat TONS of it -was trying to cut back on nut products so my bread/cheescake and egg get lots of dccc in them and are eaten all day long! any other ideas for breads w/o too much nut or dccc???? thanks eileen > > > > someone just asked what i do cheese wise re: yeast and i've omitted all but wasn't even counting dccc as one duh! - does it feed yeast? > > thanks > > Eileen 2 years 3 months scd > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 6, 2010 Report Share Posted April 6, 2010 It was me that asked Eileen about DCCC. I struggled with the SCD diet for about 3 or 4 weeks, not seeing too much improvement. But I did intro again and based on some suggestions from this group went to the SCD/Cadida diet. I also used DCCC liberally as it's a really good source of nutrients and is great to cook with. Even with all that DCCC I still feel amazingly better, and it was a quick improvement too. I only asked because I wanted to do the right thing based on facts, but the way I have the diet set up now feels right to my tummy! So I guess I'll stick with what I've been doing. Thanks all!~CD, SCD 02/21/2010 feel fine i eat TONS of it -was trying to cut back on nut products so my bread/cheescake and egg get lots of dccc in them and are eaten all day long! any other ideas for breads w/o too much nut or dccc???? thanks eileen > > > > someone just asked what i do cheese wise re: yeast and i've omitted all but wasn't even counting dccc as one duh! - does it feed yeast? > > thanks > > Eileen 2 years 3 months scd > > > _ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 6, 2010 Report Share Posted April 6, 2010 I don't think the DCCC is made the same way as hard cheese. It also does not have any carbs. For those of you doing fine on it, it's probably fine. If hard cheese promotes yeast, it may be part of the fermenting process? Just my wild guess, but you may want to look at how both products are made. PJ > > > > > > > > someone just asked what i do cheese wise re: yeast and i've omitted all > > but wasn't even counting dccc as one duh! - does it feed yeast? > > > > thanks > > > > Eileen 2 years 3 months scd > > > > > > > > > > > _ > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 6, 2010 Report Share Posted April 6, 2010 DCCC can cause some issues with candida/yeast, depending on how much you are consuming. Any food can, even those that don't fit into the sugar/mold/starch/fermented category. According to one nutrition site, there are 6.8g carbohydrate in a 1/2 cup serving of DCCC. Another one has 6, yet another 7. Which isn't too bad -- but remember this is based on a 1/2 cup serving. Which means that if you're eating more than 1/2 cup then you may be dealing with more carbs then your digestion can cope with. The other issue is that dairy, in general, can be difficult to digest, even if most of the lactose has been removed. Symptoms may not be immediately apparent, but it still puts a strain on the digestion; may cause enough fermentation to continue to feed yeast if your gut ecology and immune system still aren't 100%. I find that eating too much of a food that is difficult for my digestion means that I can experience a surge in my candida levels (based on my symptoms). It may not fall into the yeast trigger categories, but if it causes enough fermentation then my gut ecology goes haywire, allowing candida to flourish more than usual. At any rate, I'd cut back on DCCC for a few weeks and see if there is an improvement in how you're doing, yeast-wise. Kim M. SCD 6 years > > someone just asked what i do cheese wise re: yeast and i've omitted all but wasn't even counting dccc as one duh! - does it feed yeast? > thanks > Eileen 2 years 3 months scd > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 6, 2010 Report Share Posted April 6, 2010 Kim, I only have a few TBSP's a day of DCCC. So far, I feel fine. Do you think I should also cut back for a few weeks to see if I feel better?The goat yogurt with progurt starter from GIProHealth is dairy free, correct? What about the goat milk used to make it? I tried the goat milk route in the past with no success, but I was using Lucy's yogurtmet starter. Think the progurt will make a difference? __________________________________________________________________ CD SCD 5 months Lialda, Purinethol Freeda Vitamins, L. Acidophilus, Cod Liver Oil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 6, 2010 Report Share Posted April 6, 2010 I don't know for sure that I actually do have a yeast/Candida problem.Based on the foods I was eating and my general decline in health, someone here suggested I might be eating too many fruit sugars and pointed me to the Candida files. I followed the stage one steps for about a week and started feeling much better. So really, I have no confirmation other than feeling better. And just for general know who, I went back and looked at my food log. When I started this Cadida diet I was having about 2 c of DCCC a day! Eep! Now that I have more variety in my diet I'm getting something much more like 1/2 c. I'll try and cut back some more. I am carb tracking though, and based on my calculations I'm doing about 20 - 40g per day, which is aprox 20% of the recommend daily intake for a normal person on a 2,000 calorie diet. ~CD, SCD 02/21/2010 I have a question about yeast/Candida: How do you know you have a problem -- is it oral thrush or external fungal infections? If it is intestinal, how do you know it is Candida? Is the conclusion by elimination -- all the bacteria are dead, so it has to be Candida?? _ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 6, 2010 Report Share Posted April 6, 2010 - I have also been having Candida issues -- skin rashes, white tongue. All this began after I started on SCD, probably because there's an imbalance in the flora. I am wondering if there's enough evidence to show that Candida overgrowth can exacerbate colitis? I do research for a living, and I have a Candida biologist that I collaborate with -- he seems to think that people associate with Candida, the things they can't find an answer to. I think researchers are still debating this issue, but anecdotal evidence seem to point to Candida's role in colitis. -Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 6, 2010 Report Share Posted April 6, 2010 All I can say is ever since following that version of the diet the symptoms have gone away in a hurry, including the thrush on my tongue which is much clearer this past week. __________________________________________________________________ CD SCD 5 months Lialda, Purinethol Freeda Vitamins, L. Acidophilus, Cod Liver OilSubject: Re: dccc/yeastTo: BTVC-SCD Date: Tuesday, April 6, 2010, 7:26 PM - I have also been having Candida issues -- skin rashes, white tongue. All this began after I started on SCD, probably because there's an imbalance in the flora. I am wondering if there's enough evidence to show that Candida overgrowth can exacerbate colitis? I do research for a living, and I have a Candida biologist that I collaborate with -- he seems to think that people associate with Candida, the things they can't find an answer to. I think researchers are still debating this issue, but anecdotal evidence seem to point to Candida's role in colitis. -Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 6, 2010 Report Share Posted April 6, 2010 If you are feeling fine, and aren’t in discomfort from any candida-related symptoms, then you don’t need to cut back on the DCCC. Unless you want to run a test just to make sure. Perhaps not have it every day but every other day for a week, or stop the DCCC completely for a week and see if you notice some improvements. DCCC is a dairy product, after all. Some digestions have difficulties with dairy. But the amount you’re having isn’t a great deal. Sometimes I don’t realize my body is having difficulties with a food or supplement until I stop it for a week or two and reintroduce it. The GIProHealth yogurt starter is dairy-free, but goat’s milk is not. Goat’s milk is dairy just as cow’s milk, although the physical structure of the casein is slightly different than cow’s milk so is usually better tolerated. There is a chance that if you use the GIProHealth yogurt starter with goat’s milk instead of the Yogourmet starter you might do better, as the GIProHealth starter has L. Casei instead of L. Acidophilus as an extra strain. Sometimes we have to wait a while (months) before our bodies accept yogurt; and sometimes we discover our bodies won’t tolerate dairy at all. Good thing we have access to good probiotic supplements! Kim M. SCD 6 years >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kim, I only have a few TBSP's a day of DCCC. So far, I feel fine. Do you think I should also cut back for a few weeks to see if I feel better? The goat yogurt with progurt starter from GIProHealth is dairy free, correct? What about the goat milk used to make it? I tried the goat milk route in the past with no success, but I was using Lucy's yogurtmet starter. Think the progurt will make a difference? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 6, 2010 Report Share Posted April 6, 2010 I make a bread with some almond flour and a bunch of butternut squash, eggs, cinnamon, salt, baking soda. It works.To: BTVC-SCD Sent: Tue, April 6, 2010 10:13:51 AMSubject: Re: dccc/yeast feel fine i eat TONS of it -was trying to cut back on nut products so my bread/cheescake and egg get lots of dccc in them and are eaten all day long! any other ideas for breads w/o too much nut or dccc???? thanks eileen > > > > someone just asked what i do cheese wise re: yeast and i've omitted all but wasn't even counting dccc as one duh! - does it feed yeast? > > thanks > > Eileen 2 years 3 months scd > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 6, 2010 Report Share Posted April 6, 2010 could i have your bread recipe without the squash? I want to see how I respond to it. __________________________________________________________________ CD SCD 5 months Lialda, Purinethol Freeda Vitamins, L. Acidophilus, Cod Liver OilSubject: Re: Re: dccc/yeastTo: BTVC-SCD Date: Tuesday, April 6, 2010, 10:16 PM I make a bread with some almond flour and a bunch of butternut squash, eggs, cinnamon, salt, baking soda. It works.From: blackguitarmaker <autumn71a@optonline .net>To: BTVC-SCD@yahoogroup s.comSent: Tue, April 6, 2010 10:13:51 AMSubject: Re: dccc/yeast feel fine i eat TONS of it -was trying to cut back on nut products so my bread/cheescake and egg get lots of dccc in them and are eaten all day long! any other ideas for breads w/o too much nut or dccc???? thanks eileen > > > > someone just asked what i do cheese wise re: yeast and i've omitted all but wasn't even counting dccc as one duh! - does it feed yeast? > > thanks > > Eileen 2 years 3 months scd > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2010 Report Share Posted April 7, 2010 thanks kim!!! eileen > > > > someone just asked what i do cheese wise re: yeast and i've omitted all but wasn't even counting dccc as one duh! - does it feed yeast? > > thanks > > Eileen 2 years 3 months scd > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2010 Report Share Posted April 7, 2010 I didn't have any real in your face symptoms per se - so took a while to realize - though I lived off sugar pre-scd and should have known!! but I did have some vag itchiness (sorry) and then I did the spit tests and then stool confirming it - it's still there like crazy stool wise and now I believe my nausea has a definite link to it, when i attempted first honey/ban in forever ,it got worse eileen 2 years 3 months scd > > > I have a question about yeast/Candida: > > How do you know you have a problem -- is it oral thrush or external fungal infections? > > If it is intestinal, how do you know it is Candida? Is the conclusion by elimination -- all the bacteria are dead, so it has to be Candida?? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2010 Report Share Posted April 7, 2010 My brilliant compounding pharmacist feels yeast is at the heart of most- if not all- intestinal issues I believe we have serious proof on here and I'm sick of hearing " yeast is controversial " blah blah blah from GI's!! eileen > > > - > > I have also been having Candida issues -- skin rashes, white tongue. All this began after I started on SCD, probably because there's an imbalance in the flora. > > I am wondering if there's enough evidence to show that Candida overgrowth can exacerbate colitis? > > I do research for a living, and I have a Candida biologist that I collaborate with -- he seems to think that people associate with Candida, the things they can't find an answer to. > > I think researchers are still debating this issue, but anecdotal evidence seem to point to Candida's role in colitis. > > -Andy > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2010 Report Share Posted April 7, 2010 that's funny I started DCCC in my pecan flour/squash bread as I was trying to stop the butternut squash due to yeast guess I replaced with another no-no - will try cutting back or stopping to see change -thanks all eileen > >>> > > >>> > someone just asked what i do cheese wise re: yeast and i've omitted all but wasn't even counting dccc as one duh! - does it feed yeast? > >>> > thanks > >>> > Eileen 2 years 3 months scd > >>> > > >>> > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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