Re: Re: Restricted low carb SCD

[Guest guest]

Kim,

When you say you avoid dairy, does that inlcude yogurt?

Lori

To: BTVC-SCD Sent: Thu, May 20, 2010 1:57:13 PMSubject: Re: Restricted low carb SCD

LoriI am on "lean carb" SCD because I have functional digestive disorders and can't tolerate much fat, fiber, carbohydrate or seasonings. I figured everything out by trial and error during my first year on SCD. As a matter of fact I'm writing up using a "lean carb SCD" approach for the pecanbread website, so I'll let you know when it is finalized and on the website. I use a combination of monitoring my body's reactions and looking at nutritional analyses of SCD foods before I try them. It is somewhat time-consuming, but not as overwhelming as it sounds. I found myself gravitating to foods that my digestion handled better and realized they were low in carbohydrates, along with my other restrictions. That's when I did the research and learned about carbohydrate intolerance [grin]. Once I figured that out I began to check the nutritional analysis information regularly before I tried a food or recipe, which avoided plenty of symptom

flares. And the longer I was on lean-carb along with my other restrictions, the better my digestion worked and the faster my gut ecology was restored.The candida information files in our group Files list vegetables by carbohydrate content, which can be a start for you. In addition I use several nutritional websites regularly. Unfortunately my bookmarks are on my home computer and I'm at work, so I'll send you those links tonight or early tomorrow morning. Whether you limit certain high-carb foods, or avoid them depends on your daughter's reaction and how symptomatic she is. It is a balancing act between finding foods that our digestions cope with, and getting good variety and nutrition. Sometimes we do have to avoid a food for several months, then find we can handle a small amount once in a while (in other words, limit). Sometimes a certain food or group of foods trigger symptoms no matter how long we've been on SCD.In other

words, there isn't one path using the lean carb SCD approach, just some strategies that will help you and your daughter discover which foods are best for her at this point in her healing journey.Basically I limit some high-carb vegetables, avoid others; limit my fruits and fruit juices; limit the nut flour items to once a day (if my digestion is behaving); and avoid dairy (but not because of the carbohydrate content). I cook or juice everything, and dilute my juices significantly. I do some other things to help with my particular digestion, since things like fiber and fat content can trigger severe symptoms which means how I prepare food makes a difference. Keep asking questions! Kim M.SCD 6 yearsSphincter of Oddi dysfunction 6+ yearsneurological and spinal deterioration 3+ years>> Is anyone doing a restricted low carbohydrate version of the SCD? I am wondering if this would be better for us in these early months to help our daughter progress more quickly. I wonder if we need to look at this issue as possibly our daughter may not even be able to absorb the mono-saccharides well at this point. > > Would it speed her healing if we went this route--and if we do, how do we do it? Do we try to limit fruit or avoid certain ones? Which vegetables are better to eat and which should be avoided? It would be helpful to know how to do this. I know that I get so sleepy if I eat fruit of any kind, and other than pumpkin pie I made the other day, our daughter isn't eating any honey, nut products, and no squash. The squash made her gassy

and bloated so I stopped cooking it for the family. > > Our daughter rarely drinks juice,although she drank a lot when we started out. She is trying to be careful as we are trying to eliminate a chronic yeast problem. Most of her fruit is in her yogurt smoothie which is usually dripped yogurt, frozen dark sweet cherries, or cherries and frozen green grapes and legal vanilla and almond extract--one to two times a day. She eats bananas, dried apricots (not so much lately), grapes and some honeydew melon. She is afraid of strawberries and even blueberries (the seeds). The longer we are on this diet, the easier it is to see when something bothers her--and the blueberries were very hard on her the last time she had them.> > Thanks, Lori > Daughter Crohn's 6 yr., SCD 4 1/2 months >

[Guest guest]

> It was rereading information on The Healing Crow website that alerted me to

the possibility of needing to restrict legal monosacharrides. Now I need to go

back to the Pecanbread website and go over their info again, but I will

obviously be looking at it with different eyes. I wish I could absorb the

information I need faster, but I assume that others search for the knowledge

they need really as they go through changes and different stages as they heal.

Well, yes, there is a huge learning curve in the beginning. And then

it slows down. But, still, you are always having to retry things to get things

right. And sometimes what works at one point, doesn't work at a different

point - change in gut ecology, I guess, among other things.

For candida, has your daughter tried s. boulardii? Start it up on an

empty stomach. It eats yeast, apparently. I didn't notice the effect

until the second time I tried, over a year after I gave it up the first

time, because you need to have it on an empty stomach (unless

you are too sensitive for that), and until I finally started taking two

at a time. Didn't do that the first time around, but it made all the

difference.

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>>> , or cherries and frozen green grapes and legal vanilla and almond

extract--one to two times a day. She eats bananas, dried apricots (not so much

lately), grapes and some honeydew melon. She is afraid of strawberries and even

blueberries (the seeds). The longer we are on this diet, the easier it is to

see when something bothers her--and the blueberries were very hard on her the

last time she had them.

Have you tried cooking down the berries/cherries? It's best to cook all the

fruit in the beginning, makes the monosaccharides easier to absorb.

Dried fruit of any sort is more advanced than this.

How old is your daughter again?

Mara