Re: Almost 3 months on SCD and my progress has slowed

May 24, 2010

Heya Ann,

> Morning everyone. I'm fairly new to the list and have meant to say

> hi...but I'm a bit on the shy side. Since it seems everyone here is very

> helpful, I thought it safe to peek out from underneath my rock, looking

> for a little guidance.

Welcome!!

> After years of pain and suffering, being diagnosed with Celiac (going

> gluten free did little to ease all my gut pains and symptoms) and

> dealing with a lot of neuropathy damage, among other things, I started

> on SCD almost 3 months ago and have been amazed by all the changes.

> Physically, emotionally, and mentally I've seen fantastic results, and

> in such a short time. I was very malabsorbed, dealing with a ton of

> vitamin deficiencies and terribly anemic.

Me too! Same exact thing.

I don't have celiac but suspect gluten sensitivity.

I have been glutened on and off and always get symptomatic.

> So I guess my question is, how long does a flare generally last? I'm not

> able to tolerate many foods - and have tried 1 new food every other

> week. I've been able to figure out when something bothers me or not.

You are totally experiencing the 3 month flare. This seems to happen every 3

months for people as the gut ecology shifts!

Don't despair- keep doing what you're doing.. It takes time.

> Currently I have yogurt made w/ goat's milk, a few eggs, broiled lamb

> patties, avocados, tomato juice as soup, white grape juice, peppermint

> tea, chicken broth, and occasionally gelatin when I make jello. I can

> only handle about 3 supplements a week, otherwise it messes up my day.

> I've not had anything I shouldn't and have moved at a slow, steady pace.

> If this is a flare, then I realize I'll have to just toughen up and ride

> it out, but I didn't think it would last this long.

I have had flare last for months, but since we are all so highly individual it

is hard to say.

There are a couple of ways you can look at your diet- especially with the sinus

congestion- maybe you want to go dairy free for a while?

I would also look at the tomato juice you are using as that can be problematic.

Also, if your problem is more D maybe the eggs may be contributing.

You can always take out the supplements to see how you heal as well.

Alas, you don't need to make all these changes although i would strongly caution

you to take a look at the tomato juice you are using as well as the supplements.

> Hopefully I've made sense. Any advice would be appreciated. I miss

> feeling good.

Ohh you'll get back- it's a bummer when you're there..

I have been through so many healing crisis flares I can't even count anymore.

Good luck!

Jodi

May 24, 2010

Don't forget to dilute the grape juice by 50% at least. Maybe go back to the intro for a couple of days to 'clear the decks' (Marilyn's phrase). Kim M. would probably say pull the supplements first and add one back in at a time. (I've been reading these lists too long!).

If you're eating nuts/nut flours, pull those too. Try acidolpholus caps from Lucys, digestive wellness or chalmers if possible. It's kind of like starting over but if you find the culprit or if it's the 3month die-off, you'll do better afterwards.

And what Jody said. She's been SCD for a long time.

Hope you feel better,

debbie 41 cd

scd 12/05 (experimenting now but not actually getting anywhere with it)

ldn 3/10

Heya Ann, > Morning everyone. I'm fairly new to the list and have meant to say> hi...but I'm a bit on the shy side. Since it seems everyone here is very> helpful, I thought it safe to peek out from underneath my rock, looking

> for a little guidance.Welcome!! > After years of pain and suffering, being diagnosed with Celiac (going> gluten free did little to ease all my gut pains and symptoms) and> dealing with a lot of neuropathy damage, among other things, I started

> on SCD almost 3 months ago and have been amazed by all the changes.> Physically, emotionally, and mentally I've seen fantastic results, and> in such a short time. I was very malabsorbed, dealing with a ton of

> vitamin deficiencies and terribly anemic.Me too! Same exact thing.I don't have celiac but suspect gluten sensitivity.I have been glutened on and off and always get symptomatic. > So I guess my question is, how long does a flare generally last? I'm not> able to tolerate many foods - and have tried 1 new food every other> week. I've been able to figure out when something bothers me or not.

You are totally experiencing the 3 month flare. This seems to happen every 3 months for people as the gut ecology shifts!Don't despair- keep doing what you're doing.. It takes time. > Currently I have yogurt made w/ goat's milk, a few eggs, broiled lamb> patties, avocados, tomato juice as soup, white grape juice, peppermint> tea, chicken broth, and occasionally gelatin when I make jello. I can

> only handle about 3 supplements a week, otherwise it messes up my day.> I've not had anything I shouldn't and have moved at a slow, steady pace.> If this is a flare, then I realize I'll have to just toughen up and ride

> it out, but I didn't think it would last this long.I have had flare last for months, but since we are all so highly individual it is hard to say.There are a couple of ways you can look at your diet- especially with the sinus congestion- maybe you want to go dairy free for a while?

I would also look at the tomato juice you are using as that can be problematic.Also, if your problem is more D maybe the eggs may be contributing.You can always take out the supplements to see how you heal as well.

Alas, you don't need to make all these changes although i would strongly caution you to take a look at the tomato juice you are using as well as the supplements. > Hopefully I've made sense. Any advice would be appreciated. I miss> feeling good.Ohh you'll get back- it's a bummer when you're there..I have been through so many healing crisis flares I can't even count anymore.

Good luck!Jodi

May 24, 2010

The sinus congestion makes me wonder if yeast is moving in as the bacteria dies

off. It happened to my daughter, as confirmed by lab tests. It does not seem

you are eating much food that would feed candida, the white grape juice and

perhaps the jello sound like the only things that would encourage the growth of

yeast. You might pull them for a week or so and see if it gets better,

>

> Morning everyone. I'm fairly new to the list and have meant to say

> hi...but I'm a bit on the shy side. Since it seems everyone here is very

> helpful, I thought it safe to peek out from underneath my rock, looking

> for a little guidance.

>

> After years of pain and suffering, being diagnosed with Celiac (going

> gluten free did little to ease all my gut pains and symptoms) and

> dealing with a lot of neuropathy damage, among other things, I started

> on SCD almost 3 months ago and have been amazed by all the changes.

> Physically, emotionally, and mentally I've seen fantastic results, and

> in such a short time. I was very malabsorbed, dealing with a ton of

> vitamin deficiencies and terribly anemic.

>

> I literally have felt like a new person. In fact, up until 3 weeks ago

> it has almost been euphoric how well I've felt. The mental clarity, the

> calm mood, no more brain fog and dizziness, and to eat without reacting

> and hurting has been empowering.

>

> Three weeks ago I started to feel sick. Somewhat like the flu - only it

> didn't progress into the flu - and got a sinus infection that has stuck

> with me. In reading the BTVC book I was aware of a possible flare and

> wondered if it is supposed to last 3 to 4 weeks, or if I'm dealing with

> something else? I feel defeated and beaten down by this sudden

> drop...kind of kicked to the curb. Not enough to quit or sabotage my

> healing so far...I honestly can't imagine any food that tastes as good

> as feeling well and living life again. I'm fully committed to SCD and

> have never veered from it. But I was doing so well and really want to

> feel well again.