Re: I need a reality check here....

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It Salt Lake City, what can you say...actually you can say that the good Lord drank wine and who knows maybe he drank tea or coffee too! I refuse to give up Starbucks iced mochas and have my large cup from McD's everyday. For every study that says coffee is bad you can find one that says some coffee is good. Hand in there.Dyane phoenix ipf o2>> I don't know if this is just a product of the state I live in or if there is some substance to this. I went in for my rehab today and they informed me that I had a short period at my last exercise workout where my heart rate jumped to 145. They have informed my pulmo dude and said I may have to give up coffee (everyone in Utah seems to want you to give up your coffee). I don't drink coffee before my workouts, I save it for after. I was raised in Minnesota where you cannot go to a friend's home without a pot of coffee being brewed. I have had every doctor in Utah tell me I should quit drinking coffee because it isn't good for me. I really hate it when other belief systems are put upon me and I would have a very difficult time giving up my 2 cup a day habit. I don't think 16 oz. is too much. I could understand having a "pot on the stove" all day and having one cup after another might not be harmful, but really folks... 16 oz a day (some days it is only 8 oz). Any one care to shed some light on the caffeine/coffee subject?> > Stefani 61 year old Utahn> ILD 2/2006, NSIP (cellular) 6/2009, UIP 9/2009, Diabetes II 2/2006, Sleep Apnea 4/2009>

[Guest guest]

Oh yeah my hr jumps to 145 or above just walking...its the pf for

heavens sake!

Dyane

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> I don't know if this is just a product of the state I live in or if

there is some substance to this. I went in for my rehab today and they

informed me that I had a short period at my last exercise workout where

my heart rate jumped to 145. They have informed my pulmo dude and said

I may have to give up coffee (everyone in Utah seems to want you to give

up your coffee). I don't drink coffee before my workouts, I save it for

after. I was raised in Minnesota where you cannot go to a friend's home

without a pot of coffee being brewed. I have had every doctor in Utah

tell me I should quit drinking coffee because it isn't good for me. I

really hate it when other belief systems are put upon me and I would

have a very difficult time giving up my 2 cup a day habit. I don't

think 16 oz. is too much. I could understand having a " pot on the

stove " all day and having one cup after another might not be harmful,

but really folks... 16 oz a day (some days it is only 8 oz). Any one

care to shed some light on the caffeine/coffee subject?

>

> Stefani 61 year old Utahn

> ILD 2/2006, NSIP (cellular) 6/2009, UIP 9/2009, Diabetes II 2/2006,

Sleep Apnea 4/2009

>

[Guest guest]

Stefani

I drink Diet Cokes. I know they are bad for me and know caffeine is bad.

I haven't been told to give them up but I do limit myself to one per

day. However, I have dieted before without any. If I were told I

couldn't have any, then I'd just give them up. Simple. I seriously doubt

however that your heart rate suddenly jumped like that based on two per

day, none of which were before rehab. But, isn't that easy enough to

find out by not drinking any and seeing what your heart rate does?

Certainly, I think you know as well as any of us do that you're making

way too much out of giving up a cup of two or coffee, that somehow

you've let that become huge as if a symbol of giving up other important

things in your life. I'd just give it up at least for now, but most of

all I would want my heart rate monitored and maintained in safe ranges.

If it gets too high, rehab should slow your pace until it can safely

resume at the current pace.

I once had encountered stomach problems. I dont' drink milk, but the

doctor told me to give up ice cream. I wanted my stomach better but oh

how I hoped he was wrong. I gave up ice cream and my stomach was fine.

Now there is lactaid I could take if I really wanted to eat ice cream

without it upsetting my stomach. But I just did what necessary to see if

he was right or wrong. He was right that time.

Again, I doubt if you only drink coffee as you say that its the problem,

but isn't it easy enough to find out?

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> I don't know if this is just a product of the state I live in or if

there is some substance to this. I went in for my rehab today and they

informed me that I had a short period at my last exercise workout where

my heart rate jumped to 145. They have informed my pulmo dude and said

I may have to give up coffee (everyone in Utah seems to want you to give

up your coffee). I don't drink coffee before my workouts, I save it for

after. I was raised in Minnesota where you cannot go to a friend's home

without a pot of coffee being brewed. I have had every doctor in Utah

tell me I should quit drinking coffee because it isn't good for me. I

really hate it when other belief systems are put upon me and I would

have a very difficult time giving up my 2 cup a day habit. I don't

think 16 oz. is too much. I could understand having a " pot on the

stove " all day and having one cup after another might not be harmful,

but really folks... 16 oz a day (some days it is only 8 oz). Any one

care to shed some light on the caffeine/coffee subject?

>

> Stefani 61 year old Utahn

> ILD 2/2006, NSIP (cellular) 6/2009, UIP 9/2009, Diabetes II 2/2006,

Sleep Apnea 4/2009

>

[Guest guest]

Everyone needs to be aware of the safe heart rate for themselves based

on age, height, condition and then stay within that. 145 for me at my

age would be very bad and I just need to not go there. Fortunately, I

don't go that high but I have had days I went out of my normal range and

had to slow down. Actually those days were caused by my sinus congestion

being exceptionally bad.

I do think its a bit presumptive for a rehab person to presuppose the

cause. To attribute it to coffee seems like an awfully huge leap on

their part. Perhaps they should report the facts and leave the diagnosis

to the doctors.

> >

> > I don't know if this is just a product of the state I live in or if

> there is some substance to this. I went in for my rehab today and

they

> informed me that I had a short period at my last exercise workout

where

> my heart rate jumped to 145. They have informed my pulmo dude and

said

> I may have to give up coffee (everyone in Utah seems to want you to

give

> up your coffee). I don't drink coffee before my workouts, I save it

for

> after. I was raised in Minnesota where you cannot go to a friend's

home

> without a pot of coffee being brewed. I have had every doctor in Utah

> tell me I should quit drinking coffee because it isn't good for me. I

> really hate it when other belief systems are put upon me and I would

> have a very difficult time giving up my 2 cup a day habit. I don't

> think 16 oz. is too much. I could understand having a " pot on the

> stove " all day and having one cup after another might not be harmful,

> but really folks... 16 oz a day (some days it is only 8 oz). Any one

> care to shed some light on the caffeine/coffee subject?

> >

> > Stefani 61 year old Utahn

> > ILD 2/2006, NSIP (cellular) 6/2009, UIP 9/2009, Diabetes II 2/2006,

> Sleep Apnea 4/2009

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I used to drink coffee. But, after abusing it with the Cuban coffee in Miami and

several years of drinking Navy coffee on the sub my stomach rebelled. I tried

decaf and still have it once in awhile. When I gave up the leaded variety I got

headaches in the afternoon until I finally detoxed. For me it was more the

tannic acid in the coffee than the caffiene. Starbucks is coming out with their

new instant coffees and I hope they have a good decaf.

I'm also lactose intolerant, but I use Walgreen's lactose pills which are not a

drug but beneficial bacteria or another pro biotic. (Also good for controlling

gerd)But, Lactaid, the brand, not only makes milk, choc. milk, and cottage

cheese but they are now making vanilla, chocolate, strawberry, and the ever

popular butter pecan ice cream. Can I get a yumm!!! They are all easy on the

stomach. And the butter pecan is delicious!

Terre, IPF, 6-08, FL

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> > I don't know if this is just a product of the state I live in or if

> there is some substance to this. I went in for my rehab today and they

> informed me that I had a short period at my last exercise workout where

> my heart rate jumped to 145. They have informed my pulmo dude and said

> I may have to give up coffee (everyone in Utah seems to want you to give

> up your coffee). I don't drink coffee before my workouts, I save it for

> after. I was raised in Minnesota where you cannot go to a friend's home

> without a pot of coffee being brewed. I have had every doctor in Utah

> tell me I should quit drinking coffee because it isn't good for me. I

> really hate it when other belief systems are put upon me and I would

> have a very difficult time giving up my 2 cup a day habit. I don't

> think 16 oz. is too much. I could understand having a " pot on the

> stove " all day and having one cup after another might not be harmful,

> but really folks... 16 oz a day (some days it is only 8 oz). Any one

> care to shed some light on the caffeine/coffee subject?

> >

> > Stefani 61 year old Utahn

> > ILD 2/2006, NSIP (cellular) 6/2009, UIP 9/2009, Diabetes II 2/2006,

> Sleep Apnea 4/2009

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I find my morning coffee is good for my state of mind and that is what matters.

It is lovingly made by my husband and put into a coffee mug to go to work with

me. He brought it into the hospital for me last week.

I will have my morning coffee until they rip it from my hand.

S, Lubbock, TX

NSIP w/PF 12/2006 et al

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> > I don't know if this is just a product of the state I live in or if

> there is some substance to this. I went in for my rehab today and they

> informed me that I had a short period at my last exercise workout where

> my heart rate jumped to 145. They have informed my pulmo dude and said

> I may have to give up coffee (everyone in Utah seems to want you to give

> up your coffee). I don't drink coffee before my workouts, I save it for

> after. I was raised in Minnesota where you cannot go to a friend's home

> without a pot of coffee being brewed. I have had every doctor in Utah

> tell me I should quit drinking coffee because it isn't good for me. I

> really hate it when other belief systems are put upon me and I would

> have a very difficult time giving up my 2 cup a day habit. I don't

> think 16 oz. is too much. I could understand having a " pot on the

> stove " all day and having one cup after another might not be harmful,

> but really folks... 16 oz a day (some days it is only 8 oz). Any one

> care to shed some light on the caffeine/coffee subject?

> >

> > Stefani 61 year old Utahn

> > ILD 2/2006, NSIP (cellular) 6/2009, UIP 9/2009, Diabetes II 2/2006,

> Sleep Apnea 4/2009

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Stefani,

Speaking only for myself....they will get my coffee out of my cold dead hand. I drink about 2 cups a day, like you. It's non-negotiable. I will not give it up. My heart rate jumps up into the high 120's to 130's when I exercise and occasionally hits 140. I used to routinely jump into the 140's but regular exercise has improved that a bit.

My morning coffee brings me pleasure. That's it and in a difficult life it's enough reason for me to not want to change it.

When I visit Peggy in Florida we drink coffee all day....she's got a wonderful Bunn coffeemaker that makes a pot on 3 or 4 minutes. Bless it's wonderful little coffee brewing heart!

I can't tell you what to do but I will be drinking my coffee and enjoying it!

Beth

Moderator

Fibrotic NSIP 06/06 Dermatomyositis 11/08

To: Breathe-Support Sent: Fri, October 9, 2009 12:59:36 PMSubject: I need a reality check here....

I don't know if this is just a product of the state I live in or if there is some substance to this. I went in for my rehab today and they informed me that I had a short period at my last exercise workout where my heart rate jumped to 145. They have informed my pulmo dude and said I may have to give up coffee (everyone in Utah seems to want you to give up your coffee). I don't drink coffee before my workouts, I save it for after. I was raised in Minnesota where you cannot go to a friend's home without a pot of coffee being brewed. I have had every doctor in Utah tell me I should quit drinking coffee because it isn't good for me. I really hate it when other belief systems are put upon me and I would have a very difficult time giving up my 2 cup a day habit. I don't think 16 oz. is too much. I could understand having a "pot on the stove" all day and having one cup after another might not be harmful, but really folks... 16 oz a day (some days it is only

8 oz). Any one care to shed some light on the caffeine/coffee subject?Stefani 61 year old UtahnILD 2/2006, NSIP (cellular) 6/2009, UIP 9/2009, Diabetes II 2/2006, Sleep Apnea 4/2009

[Guest guest]

I’m reluctant to say how much coffee I drink a day WAY WAY to much but at this point in my life that is one thing I’m keeping. I do start around 5am with a cup out on the deck then one in my travel mug on my way out the door. I don’t stop there BUT I don’t want an intervention or have to have another support group. Lol

Walt (52) on Whidbey IPF,Nsip.Uip. 06

Courage doesn't always roar. Sometimes courage is the quiet voice at the end of the day saying, "I will try again tomorrow.â€

Subject: Re: I need a reality check here....To: Breathe-Support Date: Friday, October 9, 2009, 1:45 PM

Stefani,

Speaking only for myself....they will get my coffee out of my cold dead hand. I drink about 2 cups a day, like you. It's non-negotiable. I will not give it up. My heart rate jumps up into the high 120's to 130's when I exercise and occasionally hits 140. I used to routinely jump into the 140's but regular exercise has improved that a bit.

My morning coffee brings me pleasure. That's it and in a difficult life it's enough reason for me to not want to change it.

When I visit Peggy in Florida we drink coffee all day....she's got a wonderful Bunn coffeemaker that makes a pot on 3 or 4 minutes. Bless it's wonderful little coffee brewing heart!

I can't tell you what to do but I will be drinking my coffee and enjoying it!

Beth

Moderator

Fibrotic NSIP 06/06 Dermatomyositis 11/08

From: Stefani <sfshaner (AT) gmail (DOT) com>To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. comSent: Fri, October 9, 2009 12:59:36 PMSubject: I need a reality check here....

I don't know if this is just a product of the state I live in or if there is some substance to this. I went in for my rehab today and they informed me that I had a short period at my last exercise workout where my heart rate jumped to 145. They have informed my pulmo dude and said I may have to give up coffee (everyone in Utah seems to want you to give up your coffee). I don't drink coffee before my workouts, I save it for after. I was raised in Minnesota where you cannot go to a friend's home without a pot of coffee being brewed. I have had every doctor in Utah tell me I should quit drinking coffee because it isn't good for me. I really hate it when other belief systems are put upon me and I would have a very difficult time giving up my 2 cup a day habit. I don't think 16 oz. is too much. I could understand having a "pot on the stove" all day and having one cup after another might not be harmful, but really folks... 16 oz a day (some days it is

only 8 oz). Any one care to shed some light on the caffeine/coffee subject?Stefani 61 year old UtahnILD 2/2006, NSIP (cellular) 6/2009, UIP 9/2009, Diabetes II 2/2006, Sleep Apnea 4/2009

[Guest guest]

Walt- I also drink way too much coffee and at work they supply gourmet coffee

that is fantastic. If I don't get my French Vanilla at 2pm, I get cranky! As far

as heart rate is concerned, mine goes up all the time when I walk whether I am

on O2 or not but I'm with you Beth- they would have to yank my mug out of

my cold dead hands! I will never give up my coffee!

nne, ILD 6/09

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> Subject: Re: I need a reality check here....

> To: Breathe-Support

> Date: Friday, October 9, 2009, 1:45 PM

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> Stefani,

> Speaking only for myself....they will get my coffee out of my cold dead hand.

I drink about 2 cups a day, like you.  It's non-negotiable. I will not give it

up. My heart rate jumps up into the high 120's to 130's when I exercise and

occasionally hits 140.  I used to routinely jump into the 140's but regular

exercise has improved that a bit.

> My morning coffee brings me pleasure. That's it and in a difficult life it's

enough reason for me to not want to change it.

>  

> When I visit Peggy in Florida we drink coffee all day....she's got a

wonderful Bunn coffeemaker that makes a pot on 3 or 4 minutes. Bless it's

wonderful little coffee brewing heart! 

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> I can't tell you what to do but I will be drinking my coffee and enjoying it!

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> Beth

> Moderator

> Fibrotic NSIP 06/06 Dermatomyositis 11/08

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> From: Stefani <sfshaner (AT) gmail (DOT) com>

> To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. com

> Sent: Fri, October 9, 2009 12:59:36 PM

> Subject: I need a reality check here....

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> I don't know if this is just a product of the state I live in or if there is

some substance to this. I went in for my rehab today and they informed me that I

had a short period at my last exercise workout where my heart rate jumped to

145. They have informed my pulmo dude and said I may have to give up coffee

(everyone in Utah seems to want you to give up your coffee). I don't drink

coffee before my workouts, I save it for after. I was raised in Minnesota where

you cannot go to a friend's home without a pot of coffee being brewed. I have

had every doctor in Utah tell me I should quit drinking coffee because it isn't

good for me. I really hate it when other belief systems are put upon me and I

would have a very difficult time giving up my 2 cup a day habit. I don't think

16 oz. is too much. I could understand having a " pot on the stove " all day and

having one cup after another might not be harmful, but really folks... 16 oz a

day (some days it is only 8

> oz). Any one care to shed some light on the caffeine/coffee subject?

>

> Stefani 61 year old Utahn

> ILD 2/2006, NSIP (cellular) 6/2009, UIP 9/2009, Diabetes II 2/2006, Sleep

Apnea 4/2009

>

[Guest guest]

I used to be a heavy coffee drinker when I lived in Florida.  Cup in hand all day long, plus several cuban shots a day and expresso after dinner.  I began cutting back when I returned to SC and last year when having severe sleeping problems I gave up coffee and soda to see if my sleeping would improve..It did not, but the coffee jones was gone and I really don't miss it too much.  I do have an occasional cup out on the deck in the mornings and enjoy it with a doughnut!Roxanne, 59, South Carolina

2006 Asthma/ PF

2008 PF/ Sarcoidosis/Gerd

I pray you enough.....

From: Beth <mbmurtha (AT) yahoo (DOT) com>Subject: Re: I need a reality check here....To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. comDate: Friday, October 9, 2009, 1:45 PM

 

Stefani,

Speaking only for myself....they will get my coffee out of my cold dead hand. I drink about 2 cups a day, like you.  It's non-negotiable. I will not give it up. My heart rate jumps up into the high 120's to 130's when I exercise and occasionally hits 140.  I used to routinely jump into the 140's but regular exercise has improved that a bit.

My morning coffee brings me pleasure. That's it and in a difficult life it's enough reason for me to not want to change it.

 

When I visit Peggy in Florida we drink coffee all day....she's got a wonderful Bunn coffeemaker that makes a pot on 3 or 4 minutes. Bless it's wonderful little coffee brewing heart! 

 

I can't tell you what to do but I will be drinking my coffee and enjoying it! 

Beth

Moderator

Fibrotic NSIP 06/06 Dermatomyositis 11/08

 

 

From: Stefani <sfshaner (AT) gmail (DOT) com>To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. comSent: Fri, October 9, 2009 12:59:36 PMSubject: I need a reality check here.... 

I don't know if this is just a product of the state I live in or if there is some substance to this. I went in for my rehab today and they informed me that I had a short period at my last exercise workout where my heart rate jumped to 145. They have informed my pulmo dude and said I may have to give up coffee (everyone in Utah seems to want you to give up your coffee). I don't drink coffee before my workouts, I save it for after. I was raised in Minnesota where you cannot go to a friend's home without a pot of coffee being brewed. I have had every doctor in Utah tell me I should quit drinking coffee because it isn't good for me. I really hate it when other belief systems are put upon me and I would have a very difficult time giving up my 2 cup a day habit. I don't think 16 oz. is too much. I could understand having a "pot on the stove" all day and having one cup after another might not be harmful, but really folks... 16 oz a day (some days it is

only 8 oz). Any one care to shed some light on the caffeine/coffee subject?Stefani 61 year old UtahnILD 2/2006, NSIP (cellular) 6/2009, UIP 9/2009, Diabetes II 2/2006, Sleep Apnea 4/2009

[Guest guest]

HaHa!! too funny!!! I loved your post about wanting no intervention!! Have a nice Day!!

Donna (Iowa)

To: Breathe-Support Sent: Fri, October 9, 2009 3:58:19 PMSubject: Re: I need a reality check here....

I’m reluctant to say how much coffee I drink a day WAY WAY to much but at this point in my life that is one thing I’m keeping. I do start around 5am with a cup out on the deck then one in my travel mug on my way out the door. I don’t stop there BUT I don’t want an intervention or have to have another support group. Lol

Walt (52) on Whidbey IPF,Nsip.Uip. 06

Courage doesn't always roar. Sometimes courage is the quiet voice at the end of the day saying, "I will try again tomorrow.â€

From: Beth <mbmurtha (AT) yahoo (DOT) com>Subject: Re: I need a reality check here....To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. comDate: Friday, October 9, 2009, 1:45 PM

Stefani,

Speaking only for myself....they will get my coffee out of my cold dead hand. I drink about 2 cups a day, like you. It's non-negotiable. I will not give it up. My heart rate jumps up into the high 120's to 130's when I exercise and occasionally hits 140. I used to routinely jump into the 140's but regular exercise has improved that a bit.

My morning coffee brings me pleasure. That's it and in a difficult life it's enough reason for me to not want to change it.

When I visit Peggy in Florida we drink coffee all day....she's got a wonderful Bunn coffeemaker that makes a pot on 3 or 4 minutes. Bless it's wonderful little coffee brewing heart!

I can't tell you what to do but I will be drinking my coffee and enjoying it!

Beth

Moderator

Fibrotic NSIP 06/06 Dermatomyositis 11/08

From: Stefani <sfshaner (AT) gmail (DOT) com>To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. comSent: Fri, October 9, 2009 12:59:36 PMSubject: I need a reality check here....

I don't know if this is just a product of the state I live in or if there is some substance to this. I went in for my rehab today and they informed me that I had a short period at my last exercise workout where my heart rate jumped to 145. They have informed my pulmo dude and said I may have to give up coffee (everyone in Utah seems to want you to give up your coffee). I don't drink coffee before my workouts, I save it for after. I was raised in Minnesota where you cannot go to a friend's home without a pot of coffee being brewed. I have had every doctor in Utah tell me I should quit drinking coffee because it isn't good for me. I really hate it when other belief systems are put upon me and I would have a very difficult time giving up my 2 cup a day habit. I don't think 16 oz. is too much. I could understand having a "pot on the stove" all day and having one cup after another might not be harmful, but really folks... 16 oz a day (some days it is

only 8 oz). Any one care to shed some light on the caffeine/coffee subject?Stefani 61 year old UtahnILD 2/2006, NSIP (cellular) 6/2009, UIP 9/2009, Diabetes II 2/2006, Sleep Apnea 4/2009