Guest guest Posted October 21, 2001 Report Share Posted October 21, 2001 > Saying NOT ALL MORBIDLY OBESE PEOPLE SHOULD HAVE DS is a complete and TOTAL > COP OUT and BS besides. > Carole Carole, I think you might be a little short sighted here. I agree that the DS with gastric reduction is outstanding. I myself have had it done and wouldnt change a thing. But I do think there is a place for other procedures.. and to blanket 'diagnose' all MO people and say that its suitable for all is unfair and inaccurate. Please take into consideration a person's particular problem might be other than what YOU experience, and that they might need other treatment. They also might have had other surgeries that could make the DS complicated or impossible. Maybe Dr. Ren is inaccurate too, but she has the right to treat her patients as she sees fit. That's why it is so important for people to do their homework and NOT rely on ANY one person's opinion. It is far too dangerous and long lasting to be taken lightly. I did my research (and this was AFTER I was hell bent on getting the RNY).. and ended up with the DS .. others might not be as lucky and require other approaches. The idea is to be better off after surgery yes, but also to apply the correct approach for their own personal situation. Love, Sue post op 9/11/01 Dr. Warden Ocean Springs, MS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 21, 2001 Report Share Posted October 21, 2001 Well said, and a lot more cogently than I did, Sue. Marcia Re: Ren Cop Out/Carole > Saying NOT ALL MORBIDLY OBESE PEOPLE SHOULD HAVE DS is a complete and TOTAL > COP OUT and BS besides. > Carole Carole, I think you might be a little short sighted here. I agree that the DS with gastric reduction is outstanding. I myself have had it done and wouldnt change a thing. But I do think there is a place for other procedures.. and to blanket 'diagnose' all MO people and say that its suitable for all is unfair and inaccurate. Please take into consideration a person's particular problem might be other than what YOU experience, and that they might need other treatment. They also might have had other surgeries that could make the DS complicated or impossible. Maybe Dr. Ren is inaccurate too, but she has the right to treat her patients as she sees fit. That's why it is so important for people to do their homework and NOT rely on ANY one person's opinion. It is far too dangerous and long lasting to be taken lightly. I did my research (and this was AFTER I was hell bent on getting the RNY).. and ended up with the DS .. others might not be as lucky and require other approaches. The idea is to be better off after surgery yes, but also to apply the correct approach for their own personal situation. Love, Sue post op 9/11/01 Dr. Warden Ocean Springs, MS ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 21, 2001 Report Share Posted October 21, 2001 I love to jump in when I smell blood! ;} As one who appreciates people like Carole who go out on a limb, maybe I could be so bold as to qualify what essentially looks like a sensible statement, although it's not " sensitive. " <smirk; I, too hate couching ideas in politically-correct terms> How about this instead: Saying that " not all morbidly obese people should have D/S " is a complete and total cop-out and BS besides, unless in some persons this particular procedure is contraindicated because of physical reasons (blood supply, etc.) or psychological reasons (masochistic tendencies, etc.). Sorry--couldn't help but get that last jab in. Smile! Arguing is fun and educational! I've learned from and enjoyed this thread and the rest of you should, too! Don't be thin- skinned! Best, > Well said, and a lot more cogently than I did, Sue. > Marcia > > Re: Ren Cop Out/Carole > > > > Saying NOT ALL MORBIDLY OBESE PEOPLE SHOULD HAVE DS is a complete > and TOTAL > > COP OUT and BS besides. > > Carole > > Carole, > I think you might be a little short sighted here. I agree that the DS > with gastric reduction is outstanding. I myself have had it done and > wouldnt change a thing. But I do think there is a place for other > procedures.. and to blanket 'diagnose' all MO people and say that its > suitable for all is unfair and inaccurate. Please take into > consideration a person's particular problem might be other than what > YOU experience, and that they might need other treatment. They also > might have had other surgeries that could make the DS complicated or > impossible. Maybe Dr. Ren is inaccurate too, but she has the right to > treat her patients as she sees fit. That's why it is so important for > people to do their homework and NOT rely on ANY one person's opinion. > It is far too dangerous and long lasting to be taken lightly. I did > my research (and this was AFTER I was hell bent on getting the RNY).. > and ended up with the DS .. others might not be as lucky and require > other approaches. The idea is to be better off after surgery yes, but > also to apply the correct approach for their own personal situation. > Love, > Sue > post op 9/11/01 > Dr. Warden > Ocean Springs, MS > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- -- > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 21, 2001 Report Share Posted October 21, 2001 My take on it was that Carole was mostly upset at the idea that a patient might not be told about the DS as an option. Just my take though. M. --- in Valrico, FL, age 39 Lap DGB/DS by Dr. Rabkin 10-19-99 http://www.duodenalswitch.com/Patients/_M_/melanie_m_.html Direct replies: mailto:melanie@... _________________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 21, 2001 Report Share Posted October 21, 2001 ROFLMAO!! Well and cogently said, ! Chris > > Well said, and a lot more cogently than I did, Sue. > > Marcia > > > > Re: Ren Cop Out/Carole > > > > > > > Saying NOT ALL MORBIDLY OBESE PEOPLE SHOULD HAVE DS is a complete > > and TOTAL > > > COP OUT and BS besides. > > > Carole > > > > Carole, > > I think you might be a little short sighted here. I agree that the > DS > > with gastric reduction is outstanding. I myself have had it done > and > > wouldnt change a thing. But I do think there is a place for other > > procedures.. and to blanket 'diagnose' all MO people and say that > its > > suitable for all is unfair and inaccurate. Please take into > > consideration a person's particular problem might be other than what > > YOU experience, and that they might need other treatment. They also > > might have had other surgeries that could make the DS complicated or > > impossible. Maybe Dr. Ren is inaccurate too, but she has the right > to > > treat her patients as she sees fit. That's why it is so important > for > > people to do their homework and NOT rely on ANY one person's > opinion. > > It is far too dangerous and long lasting to be taken lightly. I did > > my research (and this was AFTER I was hell bent on getting the > RNY).. > > and ended up with the DS .. others might not be as lucky and require > > other approaches. The idea is to be better off after surgery yes, > but > > also to apply the correct approach for their own personal situation. > > Love, > > Sue > > post op 9/11/01 > > Dr. Warden > > Ocean Springs, MS > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ -- > -- > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2001 Report Share Posted October 22, 2001 Thanks, Chris! Most of the time I feel like no one ever reads my posts, and based on posts that come after mine, I don't think I'm wrong! > > > Well said, and a lot more cogently than I did, Sue. > > > Marcia > > > > > > Re: Ren Cop Out/Carole > > > > > > > > > > Saying NOT ALL MORBIDLY OBESE PEOPLE SHOULD HAVE DS is a > complete > > > and TOTAL > > > > COP OUT and BS besides. > > > > Carole > > > > > > Carole, > > > I think you might be a little short sighted here. I agree that > the > > DS > > > with gastric reduction is outstanding. I myself have had it done > > and > > > wouldnt change a thing. But I do think there is a place for other > > > procedures.. and to blanket 'diagnose' all MO people and say that > > its > > > suitable for all is unfair and inaccurate. Please take into > > > consideration a person's particular problem might be other than > what > > > YOU experience, and that they might need other treatment. They > also > > > might have had other surgeries that could make the DS complicated > or > > > impossible. Maybe Dr. Ren is inaccurate too, but she has the > right > > to > > > treat her patients as she sees fit. That's why it is so > important > > for > > > people to do their homework and NOT rely on ANY one person's > > opinion. > > > It is far too dangerous and long lasting to be taken lightly. I > did > > > my research (and this was AFTER I was hell bent on getting the > > RNY).. > > > and ended up with the DS .. others might not be as lucky and > require > > > other approaches. The idea is to be better off after surgery yes, > > but > > > also to apply the correct approach for their own personal > situation. > > > Love, > > > Sue > > > post op 9/11/01 > > > Dr. Warden > > > Ocean Springs, MS > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- -- > -- > > -- > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2001 Report Share Posted October 22, 2001 Just to 2 cents worth: The issue for me is not what procedure is best, but the accuracy of information. I am really concerned about surgeons twisting information to suit their interests. Information should be presented objectively and the patient should decide based on correct and objective information. Hull > > > Saying NOT ALL MORBIDLY OBESE PEOPLE SHOULD HAVE DS is a complete > and TOTAL > > COP OUT and BS besides. > > Carole > > Carole, > I think you might be a little short sighted here. I agree that the DS > with gastric reduction is outstanding. I myself have had it done and > wouldnt change a thing. But I do think there is a place for other > procedures.. and to blanket 'diagnose' all MO people and say that its > suitable for all is unfair and inaccurate. Please take into > consideration a person's particular problem might be other than what > YOU experience, and that they might need other treatment. They also > might have had other surgeries that could make the DS complicated or > impossible. Maybe Dr. Ren is inaccurate too, but she has the right to > treat her patients as she sees fit. That's why it is so important for > people to do their homework and NOT rely on ANY one person's opinion. > It is far too dangerous and long lasting to be taken lightly. I did > my research (and this was AFTER I was hell bent on getting the RNY).. > and ended up with the DS .. others might not be as lucky and require > other approaches. The idea is to be better off after surgery yes, but > also to apply the correct approach for their own personal situation. > Love, > Sue > post op 9/11/01 > Dr. Warden > Ocean Springs, MS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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