Re: Bad Reaction to Yogurt... What to Do?

[Guest guest]

Hello SCD Lady,How long have you been on SCD? It is entirely possible that by adding the yogurt you are causing a disturbance in the gut flora with more die-off -- which would cause an increase in symptoms because the dying bacteria actually give off more toxins than the live ones do. Have you continued with the spoonful a day for the last week? You could also be having a reaction to the milk protein (provided that you are certain the yogurt was fermented correctly), which is what happened with my husband. If this is the case, stop the yogurt for a littel while -- maybe a couple of weeks -- and try a 1/2 tsp again to see how it goes. If you have been on SCD for 2-3 months, it is entirely possible it is the '2 month flare' that Elaine mentions in the

book.Definitely going back to easier to digest/intro type foods will be a help during this period.AmeliaTo: BTVC-SCD Sent: Fri, April 23, 2010 4:41:55 AMSubject: Bad Reaction to Yogurt... What to Do?

Hi everyone. I just made my first batch of 24-hour SCD yogurt last week. I took my first taste of it (only a teaspoon) and I seem to be regressing. I'm back to the frequent bathroom visits and explosive gas. It's really embarrassing, and it feels like I"m back at square one and I"m wanting to start the chicken soup diet for a few days.

The yogurt I made was from a Dannon (non-sugar, non-flavored) starter and Organic Cow's Milk ....

I added a little more yogurt than called for (in the starter) because I couldn't get the paste described in the book...

could that be causing the bad reaction?

Really needs help with this.

Thanks.

[Guest guest]

I've only been on the SCD for about three weeks now. I started the 24-hour

yogurt a week late (fermented 30 hours instead of the regular 24) But I used a

Dannon Yogurt starter.

You said it could be additional die off? I hope that's the case. I've tried

cheese in the past (organic raw cheese and ate quite a bit) and didn't have a

reaction initially, but I did with the Cabot Cheese (even though they said it

was lactose free and started with a lactic acid base). I'm wondering if I'm

having a reaction to the casein itself, but I read in the book that the yogurt

making process is supposed to denature the casein in the yogurt, so I'm not

sure.

It's a little discouraging, because I was improving (with 50 to 60 %

improvement). My symptoms are still there, but the severity has leveled off a

bit. But, now they're back.

I took more than a teaspoon of the yogurt -- not expecting the reaction I had to

it. I didn't even have any yesterday, and my gut is still upset from the

introduction of the yogurt.

<< Frustrated.

>

> Hello SCD Lady,

>

> How long have you been on SCD? It is entirely possible that by adding the

yogurt you are causing a disturbance in the gut flora with more die-off -- which

would cause an increase in symptoms because the dying bacteria actually give off

more toxins than the live ones do. Have you continued with the spoonful a day

for the last week? You could also be having a reaction to the milk protein

(provided that you are certain the yogurt was fermented correctly), which is

what happened with my husband. If this is the case, stop the yogurt for a

littel while -- maybe a couple of weeks -- and try a 1/2 tsp again to see how it

goes. If you have been on SCD for 2-3 months, it is entirely possible it is the

'2 month flare' that Elaine mentions in the book.

>

> Definitely going back to easier to digest/intro type foods will be a help

during this period.

>

> Amelia

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> To: BTVC-SCD

> Sent: Fri, April 23, 2010 4:41:55 AM

> Subject: Bad Reaction to Yogurt... What to Do?

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> Hi everyone. I just made my first batch of 24-hour SCD yogurt last week. I

took my first taste of it (only a teaspoon) and I seem to be regressing. I'm

back to the frequent bathroom visits and explosive gas. It's really

embarrassing, and it feels like I " m back at square one and I " m wanting to start

the chicken soup diet for a few days.

>

> The yogurt I made was from a Dannon (non-sugar, non-flavored) starter and

Organic Cow's Milk ....

>

> I added a little more yogurt than called for (in the starter) because I

couldn't get the paste described in the book...

>

> could that be causing the bad reaction?

>

> Really needs help with this.

>

> Thanks.

>

[Guest guest]

At 07:57 AM 4/24/2010, you wrote:

I took more than a teaspoon of

the yogurt -- not expecting the reaction I had to it. I didn't even have

any yesterday, and my gut is still upset from the introduction of the

yogurt.

SCD yogurt is powerful stuff.

<g> Talk about reactions... I ate a full cup of dripped yogurt the

first time I made it.

—

Marilyn

New

Orleans, Louisiana, USA

Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001

Darn Good SCD Cook

No Human Children

Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund

Babette the Foundling Beagle

[Guest guest]

Heh! You're right. It is strong stuff. I'm afraid to touch the stuff now (has

two huge Mason Jars filled with yogurt in my fridge now.) I was too afraid to

touch the yogurt last night...and my tummy's seemed to calm a bit.

But, I know I have to start it again sometime soon (takes the yogurt at night

during meal time...)

Cheese doesn't seem to bother me, so I know it's not dairy per se. It's the

yogurt that packs a powerful punch.

I really want to get better on it, because I'd love to make some morning

smoothies down the road with the yogurt.

> >I took more than a teaspoon of the yogurt -- not

> >expecting the reaction I had to it. I didn't

> >even have any yesterday, and my gut is still

> >upset from the introduction of the yogurt.

>

> SCD yogurt is powerful stuff.

>

> <g> Talk about reactions... I ate a full cup of

> dripped yogurt the first time I made it.

>

>

>

> — Marilyn

> New Orleans, Louisiana, USA

> Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001

> Darn Good SCD Cook

> No Human Children

> Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund

> Babette the Foundling Beagle

>