Re: Is it ok to make yogurt with raw milk?

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,Because raw milk has so many enzymes and bacteria (friendly or not), once fermented it might be too much for a healing body to handle. If you do use raw milk, SCD says to heat to the simmer stage and hold for two minutes then cool. I realize that this will kill some of the goodness you are after, but it will still be better for you than commercially produced, ultra pasteurized milk. AmeliaFrom: jdsousk

To: BTVC-SCD Sent: Thu, May 20, 2010 6:55:03 PMSubject: Is it ok to make yogurt with raw milk?

I remember reading on here recently that you shouldn't make yogurt from raw milk, but I don't remember why or know how to find the thread. Can anyone enlighten?

Thanks,

LPR Acid Reflux

Inquiring for a friend of 4 months on SCD for Colitis

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At 12:55 PM 5/20/2010, you wrote:

I remember reading on here

recently that you shouldn't make yogurt from raw milk, but I don't

remember why or know how to find the thread. Can anyone

enlighten?

,

Many people feel that there is a great deal of benefit to raw

milk.

I still think and will continue to state that I feel raw milk yogurt is

an advanced food like kefir, and that SCDers should not use it until they

have experienced serious healing.

Back when I was beginning a raw diet for my fur kids, I was desperately

worried about feeding them raw chicken -- salmonella! And who knows what

other kind of bacteria! My vet advised me that she had never seen a

healthy animal started on raw food who became ill -- in all her years of

practice, only one, who was sick when the owner tried the switch, became

ill.

Raw milk people are doubtless right about their particular passion, and

it's certain that we humans have drunk raw milk for far longer than we

have drunk pasteurized. However, we who are on SCD are NOT healthy

initially. And like that poor sick dog, we don't want to throw more at

our systems than they are ready for.

It's like the difference between cooked and raw veggies.

We eliminate all but the specific bacterial strains we want from the milk

we are culturing into yogurt. We starve out the bad bacteria, and

introduce (through our yogurt) specific, well-studied strains which we

know are beneficial. We let our system adjust to eating human style

instead of rumen style. THEN, and only then, do we consider adding

things.

My suspicion is that raw milk yogurt should be regarded like kefir -- a

very advanced food, to be used only after significant healing has taken

place.

—

Marilyn

New

Orleans, Louisiana, USA

Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001

Darn Good SCD Cook

No Human Children

Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund

Babette the Foundling Beagle

[Guest guest]

I make yogurt out of raw milk all the time. If you're heating the milk first then I don't see a difference at all to store bought milk as far as it being more or less advanced for this diet. I'm assuming Marilyn is going by raw as in NOT heated?-UC - 1+ yearsSCD - 11 months 100% strict and 4 months restricted diet.Colazol - 9 pills a day Prednisone 25mg entocort With vit E mixed inBack to intro/stage 1 for now.To: BTVC-SCD From: LouisianaSCDLagniappe@...Date: Thu, 20 May 2010 15:44:40 -0500Subject: Re: Is it ok to make yogurt with raw milk?

At 12:55 PM 5/20/2010, you wrote:

I remember reading on here

recently that you shouldn't make yogurt from raw milk, but I don't

remember why or know how to find the thread. Can anyone

enlighten?

,

Many people feel that there is a great deal of benefit to raw

milk.

I still think and will continue to state that I feel raw milk yogurt is

an advanced food like kefir, and that SCDers should not use it until they

have experienced serious healing.

Back when I was beginning a raw diet for my fur kids, I was desperately

worried about feeding them raw chicken -- salmonella! And who knows what

other kind of bacteria! My vet advised me that she had never seen a

healthy animal started on raw food who became ill -- in all her years of

practice, only one, who was sick when the owner tried the switch, became

ill.

Raw milk people are doubtless right about their particular passion, and

it's certain that we humans have drunk raw milk for far longer than we

have drunk pasteurized. However, we who are on SCD are NOT healthy

initially. And like that poor sick dog, we don't want to throw more at

our systems than they are ready for.

It's like the difference between cooked and raw veggies.

We eliminate all but the specific bacterial strains we want from the milk

we are culturing into yogurt. We starve out the bad bacteria, and

introduce (through our yogurt) specific, well-studied strains which we

know are beneficial. We let our system adjust to eating human style

instead of rumen style. THEN, and only then, do we consider adding

things.

My suspicion is that raw milk yogurt should be regarded like kefir -- a

very advanced food, to be used only after significant healing has taken

place.

—

Marilyn

New

Orleans, Louisiana, USA

Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001

Darn Good SCD Cook

No Human Children

Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund

Babette the Foundling Beagle

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[Guest guest]

At 11:54 PM 5/20/2010, you wrote:

I make yogurt out of raw milk

all the time. If you're heating the milk first then I don't see a

difference at all to store bought milk as far as it being more or less

advanced for this diet. I'm assuming Marilyn is going by raw as in NOT

heated?

Right. If you are pasteurizing the milk first, no problem.

But some people want to take the raw milk, add the cultures, and ferment

it. This is okay if you are well-healed. But not at the beginning of the

healing journey.

—

Marilyn

New

Orleans, Louisiana, USA

Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001

Darn Good SCD Cook

No Human Children

Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund

Babette the Foundling Beagle