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Thanks Bruce.  I remember the earlier outbreak . 1976 of course but I was only 26 and pretty happy go lucky at that time.Even though I got my shot last week, I am still being pretty cautious at work and being in public.  My sisters next door neighbors daughter in law (what a mouthful) is in the hospital with h1n1 and I've told my sister to stay away from me!Good luck and maybe your wait won't be much longer.Roxanne, 59, South Carolina

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2008 PF/ Sarcoidosis/Gerd

I pray you enough.....Subject: Re: Sher/ To: Breathe-Support Date: Sunday, November 1, 2009, 10:12 AM

 

Roxanne

It was 1976. Of course there was another swine flu pandemic in 1918. So

I would say anyone over 111 years old or so should have even an extra

protection. In fact for anyone here over 130 years old, I'd say check

with your doctor, but I doubt he'll advise the shot.

I know they're giving them out near me, just anticipate they'll reach me

within the next few days. Either way I'm taking every precaution I can.

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> Hi all!

> After a longish day in the car I'm happy to report the safe

> arrival in Chattanooga of myself, Peggy and , Teri

Marietta and

> Jane. (well Jane just came down for a couple of hours to

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> evening but she'll be back tomorrow with Eddie.

> Tomorrow we'll have lots more arrivals to report. I'm so

> happy to be here!! Off to bed shortly, I'm really tired but

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I also take Trazadone for sleep. I had been taking 75 - 100 mg nightly, but since I started taking 40 mg Prednisone daily, I now take 200 mg of the Trazadone. Helps a lot!

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Barbara McD

PF--Sept 08; Sjogren's--Apr 09; Reynaud's--seems like forever

Beautiful Western NC

Attitude is everything.

To: Breathe-Support Sent: Sun, November 8, 2009 4:57:05 PMSubject: Re: Bruce

Z...I'll pop in here with you and Bruce (hi Bruce!) because I had such sleep problems. I was awake each hr through the night. Dr. put me on Transodone and I'm sleeping well. I think it's also used for depression but I have that too! lol

I'm just saying I know what sleep problems are and wishing you good nights to come!

MamaSher; 71, IPF 3-2006, OR.Don't fret about tomorrow, God is already there!

Bruce

Bruce, Again, Thank you for your information. .I guess I'm actually coping OK considering! !I also need sleep meds...Lunesta works about 2 weeks at a time...then I have to stop taking it for 2 nights because it stops working. After the "drug holiday"... some holiday...no sleep for 2 nights..I start over and get 2 more good weeks of sleep! So that's stressful too! Just knowing that Lunesta after that time will most likely not work is so annoying! On those non- Lunesta nights I do take the Valiumto at least make me calm enough to try and sleep. Sometimes it works and....Again, Thanks for being you!

Z 65, fibriotic NSIP/05/PA

And “mild†PH/10/07

No, NSIP was not self-inflicted… I never smoked!

Potter, reader,carousel lover and MomMom to Darah and Sara

“I’m gonna be iron like a lion in Zion†Bob Marley

Vinca Minor-periwinkle is my flower

Bruce wrote:

It's tough when you find you're resistant to the meds. The fact that 2mg of Valium which is a small psychiatric dosage zonks you out showsthat. My similar is that many here take Xanax but it will put mecompletely out, even the smallest dosage. Typically, psychiatrists willexplore different families of meds. For instance, if currentanti-anxiety meds haven't worked, they may try some dueldepression/anxiety meds or different ones such as Cymbalta, Effexor,Lexapro. With anti-depressants, if SSRI's have been problematic, theymay go to Wellbutrin. The other place they might go is to older familiesof meds. This would include tricyclides that they've mostly gotten awayfrom prescribing, such as Elavil and Doxepin.There are also distinctly different approaches to counseling. Yourpsychiatrist might even recommend someone who specializes in a differentschool of thought.Last, maybe you

don't give yourself credit for managing it as well asyou do. You seem to turn to your doctor when you need to and you speakof anxious "days" when nothing seems to work. Many of us will continueto have those "days" but what we're succeeding at it not letting themturn into multiple days or weeks. Sometimes concentrating on how onerecovers from the down day rather than expecting to be able to avoid itall together helps. I will sometimes just accept it but say to myself,I'm going to get up and out tomorrow and its going to be a good day.When I go to sleep tonight, this day is over.One other thing, since the valium appears to benefit you some, justmaybe a bit too much, is to vary the dosage. Maybe even just 1 mg.For me, counseling has been the key. Now, I do take a sleep med, AmbienCR and I also take Wellbutrin XL which we honestly don't even know ifits doing anything. It's just the only

anti-depressant or anti-anxiety Itolerated out of around 25 tried and at one time did seem to help.Ambien CR was after at least a dozen other sleep meds.The problems I encountered were generally stomach, sometimes vision ordizziness or tremors and quite often a med that would have the exactopposite of the desired benefit. But I've had so many strange reactionsto drugs of this nature. I've had them range from one that gave me allthe symptoms of Parkinsons to one that made me sweat profusely to oneanti-anxiety that was like speed to me, to an anti-anxiety that made mesleep for 23 out of 25 hours, to a sleep med that caused vision problemsand a carb craving that could not be satisfied (you think Prednisonecauses weight gains, try that one) to sleep meds that would make mesleep every other night but I'd go 40 hours between sleeping to sleepmeds that would give me two hours per night. Sleep has long

been anissue for me. Last time I tried with no med, I slept one hour in threenights. I've found meds that have typically worked for several years andthen stopped.> > > >> > > >> > > > Hi Gale,> > > > Welcome to the group, and I am sorry to hear of your diagnosis.When> > > > you said that your pulmonologist gave you a prescription for an> > > > anti-anxiety medication, that got my attention, as I too sufferfrom> > > > depression. There is a great deal of difference between an> > > > anti-anxiety drug and an antidepressant. An antidepressant thatis> > > > suited to you will help you cope more calmly with yoursituation,> > and> > > > in short, be yourself. An anti-anxiety medication will, very> > briefly,> > > > ease your mind somewhat, but won't do anything towards relievingthe> >

> > all-day feelings of helplessness you feel.> > > >> > > > Only an antidepressant and/or counseling can help those of us> > > > suffering from depression. Taking an antidepressant (in my case> > > > Imipramine) helps me feel normal and takes the edge off ofeveryday> > > > life. You will be surprised at how much better you can feel with> > > > adequate help. Take care of yourself.> > > >> > > > Jerry/;Mississippi/ 54/IPF/dx April 05> > > >> > > > Who believes that hard times help us appreciate the good timeseven> > more.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> >> >>

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Lunesta didn't work for me. I went through every sleep med they could

find and then about that time Ambien CR came out. Ambien doesn't work

for me, but Ambien CR does the majority of time. When it stops, I can

only hope they've invented something else. Valium did not work for me as

a sleep med. Funny thing is that my Valium is prescribed by my

gastroenterologist and I only take it before meals when I'm having

problems swallowing so it will relax my upper esophagus (Globus).

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> > > > > >

> > > > > > Hi Gale,

> > > > > > Welcome to the group, and I am sorry to hear of your

diagnosis.

> > When

> > > > > > you said that your pulmonologist gave you a prescription for

an

> > > > > > anti-anxiety medication, that got my attention, as I too

suffer

> > from

> > > > > > depression. There is a great deal of difference between an

> > > > > > anti-anxiety drug and an antidepressant. An antidepressant

that

> > is

> > > > > > suited to you will help you cope more calmly with your

> > situation,

> > > > and

> > > > > > in short, be yourself. An anti-anxiety medication will, very

> > > > briefly,

> > > > > > ease your mind somewhat, but won't do anything towards

relieving

> > the

> > > > > > all-day feelings of helplessness you feel.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Only an antidepressant and/or counseling can help those of

us

> > > > > > suffering from depression. Taking an antidepressant (in my

case

> > > > > > Imipramine) helps me feel normal and takes the edge off of

> > everyday

> > > > > > life. You will be surprised at how much better you can feel

with

> > > > > > adequate help. Take care of yourself.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Jerry/;Mississippi/54/IPF/dx April 05

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Who believes that hard times help us appreciate the good

times

> > even

> > > > more.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

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Barbara/Sher

Trazodone is a great example of one of the old ones they go back to

sometimes and it works for many.

> >>> > > >

> >>> > > >

> >>> > > > Hi Gale,

> >>> > > > Welcome to the group, and I am sorry to hear of your

diagnosis.

> >>When

> >>> > > > you said that your pulmonologist gave you a prescription for

an

> >>> > > > anti-anxiety medication, that got my attention, as I too

suffer

> >>from

> >>> > > > depression. There is a great deal of difference between an

> >>> > > > anti-anxiety drug and an antidepressant. An antidepressant

that

> >>is

> >>> > > > suited to you will help you cope more calmly with your

> >>situation,

> >>> > and

> >>> > > > in short, be yourself. An anti-anxiety medication will, very

> >>> > briefly,

> >>> > > > ease your mind somewhat, but won't do anything towards

relieving

> >>the

> >>> > > > all-day feelings of helplessness you feel.

> >>> > > >

> >>> > > > Only an antidepressant and/or counseling can help those of

us

> >>> > > > suffering from depression. Taking an antidepressant (in my

case

> >>> > > > Imipramine) helps me feel normal and takes the edge off of

> >>everyday

> >>> > > > life. You will be surprised at how much better you can feel

with

> >>> > > > adequate help. Take care of yourself.

> >>> > > >

> >>> > > > Jerry/;Mississippi/ 54/IPF/dx April 05

> >>> > > >

> >>> > > > Who believes that hard times help us appreciate the good

times

> >>even

> >>> > more.

> >>> > > >

> >>> > > >

> >>> > > >

> >>> > >

> >>> >

> >>> >

> >>>

> >>

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