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Good for you.Roxanne. wish I had mine.. Love & Prayers, Peggy Florida, IPF/UIP 2004"I believe that friends are quiet angels who lift us to our feet, when our wings have trouble remembering how to fly." Hi gang,I went to my pulmo today for monthly check and he had h1n1 vaccine---I got my shot!What a relief, I had been so worried that we in SC were never going to see any.Now, one less thing to worry about.Roxanne, 59, South Carolina 2006 Asthma/ PF 2008 PF/ Sarcoidosis/Gerd I pray you enough......From: Beth <mbmurtha (AT) yahoo (DOT) com>Subject: Re: No H1N1 for you! (quote the 'Soup Nazi' from Seinfeld)To: Breathe-Support Date: Monday, October 26, 2009, 4:50 PM Stefani, All I can say is you are not alone. H1N1 vaccine is in extremely short supply at the moment. Health departments and medical centers are receiving a small percentage of the doses that they ordered which is why they are turning people away. (As an example, Duke ordered 5000 doses, they have so far received 300) There just isn't enough vaccine to accomodate all the people who want the shot. The process you described is happening all over the country right now. I'm reading and hearing that more vaccine is on the way over the next few weeks. I would suggest calling your pulmonologists office to see if they have vaccine or a suggestion as to where you may be able to get it. If you have to wait awhile (and odds are you may) the good news is people receiving this vaccine are showing "robust immune response" in 8-10 days. That's excellent and reassuring that you will begin to be protected relatively fast after getting the shot. In the mean time be as careful as you can and if you do become ill get to a doctor ASAP. The sooner treatment with Tamiflu is begun the less likely you are to have major complications. Beth Moderator Fibrotic NSIP 06/06 Dermatomyositis 11/08 From: Stefani <sfshaner (AT) gmail (DOT) com>To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. comSent: Mon, October 26, 2009 11:07:26 AMSubject: No H1N1 for you! (quote the 'Soup Nazi' from Seinfeld) What has everyone else's experiences been? Last Tuesday I went down to the local Health Department to get an H1N1 vaccine (the shot, not the nasal spray) and was told it was only for children and mothers. I told them I was in the high risk group as I had Pulmonary Fibrosis. They gave me a flier with the phone number to call and check when it would be available for high risk groups outside of infants and their mothers. Last Thursday and Friday (according to the recording at their offices this morning) they suspended shots and opened for 5 hours on Saturday with the "expanded" list of receivers. I only heard about it Saturday, after they had closed at 1:00 pm. I called today after 8:00 am (my local health clinic did not have any vaccine so I had to go through the Health Department). The Health Department said I should not have been turned away, but it was too late, the vaccine would not be in until some unknown time in November. So, lesson learned... throw a tantrum... demand your shot and don't take NO for an answer. I already asked my own doctor and the University rehab if they had access to the vaccine and it was a negative on all fronts. To say the least, I am rather upset. My daughter is under the weather and staying away from me (she lives outside our home) because she has symptoms (headaches, fever) and she is 25 (also in the danger area, but uneligible for mist or vaccine because they have so many children in Utah under the age of 24 months). She went to a Utah football game on Saturday afternoon. Has everyone got their shot? I am worried because they are expecting higher incidences of the H1N1. Someone just tell me to chill, okay?Stefani 61 year old UtahnILD 2/2006, NSIP (cellular) 6/2009, UIP 9/2009, Diabetes II 2/2006, Sleep Apnea 4/2009

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Good, Good Barbara I am happy for you, You re safe from H1N1

Geeta

> >

> >

> >>From: Beth <mbmurtha (AT) yahoo (DOT) com>

> >>Subject: Re: No H1N1 for you! (quote the 'Soup Nazi' from

Seinfeld)

> >>To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. com

> >>Date: Monday, October 26, 2009, 4:50 PM

> >>

> >>

> >> 

> >>Stefani,

> >>All I can say is you are not alone. H1N1 vaccine is in extremely short

supply at the moment. Health departments and medical centers are receiving a

small percentage of the doses that they ordered which is why they are turning

people away. (As an example, Duke ordered 5000 doses, they have so far received

300) There just isn't enough vaccine to accomodate all the people who want the

shot. The process you described is happening all over the country right now.

> >>

> >>I'm reading and hearing that more vaccine is on the way over the next few

weeks. I would suggest calling your pulmonologists office to see if they have

vaccine or a suggestion as to where you may be able to get it. If you have to

wait awhile (and odds are you may) the good news is people receiving this

vaccine are showing  " robust immune response " in 8-10 days. That's excellent and

reassuring that you will begin to be protected relatively fast after

getting the shot.

> >>

> >>In the mean time be as careful as you can and if you do become ill get to a

doctor ASAP. The sooner treatment with Tamiflu is begun the less likely you are

to have major complications.

> >>

> >> Beth

> >>Moderator

> >>Fibrotic NSIP 06/06 Dermatomyositis 11/08

> >> 

> >> 

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> ________________________________

> From: Stefani <sfshaner (AT) gmail (DOT) com>

> >>To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. com

> >>Sent: Mon, October 26, 2009 11:07:26 AM

> >>Subject: No H1N1 for you! (quote the 'Soup Nazi' from

Seinfeld)

> >>

> >> 

> >>What has everyone else's experiences been? Last Tuesday I went down to the

local Health Department to get an H1N1 vaccine (the shot, not the nasal spray)

and was told it was only for children and mothers. I told them I was in the high

risk group as I had Pulmonary Fibrosis. They gave me a flier with the phone

number to call and check when it would be available for high risk groups outside

of infants and their mothers. Last Thursday and Friday (according to the

recording at their offices this morning) they suspended shots and opened for 5

hours on Saturday with the " expanded " list of receivers. I only heard about it

Saturday, after they had closed at 1:00 pm. I called today after 8:00 am (my

local health clinic did not have any vaccine so I had to go through the Health

Department). The Health Department said I should not have been turned away, but

it was too late, the vaccine would not be in until some unknown time in

November. So, lesson learned...

> throw a tantrum... demand your shot and don't take NO for an answer. I

already asked my own doctor and the University rehab if they had access to the

vaccine and it was a negative on all fronts. To say the least, I am rather

upset. My daughter is under the weather and staying away from me (she lives

outside our home) because she has symptoms (headaches, fever) and she is 25

(also in the danger area, but uneligible for mist or vaccine because they have

so many children in Utah under the age of 24 months). She went to a Utah

football game on Saturday afternoon. Has everyone got their shot? I am worried

because they are expecting higher incidences of the H1N1. Someone just tell me

to chill, okay?

> >>

> >>Stefani 61 year old Utahn

> >>ILD 2/2006, NSIP (cellular) 6/2009, UIP 9/2009, Diabetes II 2/2006, Sleep

Apnea 4/2009

> >>

> >>

> >

> >

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Thank you, Geeta!

B

Barbara McD

PF--Sept 08; Sjogren's--Apr 09; Reynaud's--seems like forever

Beautiful Western NC

Attitude is everything.

To: Breathe-Support Sent: Thu, October 29, 2009 12:54:23 AMSubject: Re: H1N1

Good, Good Barbara I am happy for you, You re safe from H1N1Geeta > >> >> >>From: Beth <mbmurtha (AT) yahoo (DOT) com>> >>Subject: Re: No H1N1 for you! (quote the 'Soup Nazi' from Seinfeld)> >>To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. com> >>Date: Monday, October 26, 2009, 4:50 PM> >>> >>> >> > >>Stefani,> >>All I can say is you are not alone. H1N1 vaccine is in extremely short supply at the moment. Health departments and medical centers are receiving a small percentage of the doses that they ordered

which is why they are turning people away. (As an example, Duke ordered 5000 doses, they have so far received 300) There just isn't enough vaccine to accomodate all the people who want the shot. The process you described is happening all over the country right now.> >>> >>I'm reading and hearing that more vaccine is on the way over the next few weeks. I would suggest calling your pulmonologists office to see if they have vaccine or a suggestion as to where you may be able to get it. If you have to wait awhile (and odds are you may) the good news is people receiving this vaccine are showing "robust immune response" in 8-10 days. That's excellent and reassuring that you will begin to be protected relatively fast after getting the shot.> >>> >>In the mean time be as careful as you can and if you do become ill get to a doctor

ASAP. The sooner treatment with Tamiflu is begun the less likely you are to have major complications.> >>> >> Beth> >>Moderator> >>Fibrotic NSIP 06/06 Dermatomyositis 11/08> >> > >> > >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ____________ _________ _________ __> From: Stefani <sfshaner (AT) gmail (DOT) com>> >>To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. com> >>Sent: Mon, October 26, 2009 11:07:26 AM> >>Subject: No H1N1 for you! (quote the 'Soup Nazi' from Seinfeld)> >>> >> > >>What has everyone else's experiences been? Last Tuesday I went down to the local Health Department to get an H1N1 vaccine (the shot, not the nasal spray) and was told it was only for children and mothers. I told them I was in the high

risk group as I had Pulmonary Fibrosis. They gave me a flier with the phone number to call and check when it would be available for high risk groups outside of infants and their mothers. Last Thursday and Friday (according to the recording at their offices this morning) they suspended shots and opened for 5 hours on Saturday with the "expanded" list of receivers. I only heard about it Saturday, after they had closed at 1:00 pm. I called today after 8:00 am (my local health clinic did not have any vaccine so I had to go through the Health Department). The Health Department said I should not have been turned away, but it was too late, the vaccine would not be in until some unknown time in November. So, lesson learned...> throw a tantrum... demand your shot and don't take NO for an answer. I already asked my own doctor and the University rehab if they had access to the vaccine and it was a negative on all fronts. To say the least, I am rather upset.

My daughter is under the weather and staying away from me (she lives outside our home) because she has symptoms (headaches, fever) and she is 25 (also in the danger area, but uneligible for mist or vaccine because they have so many children in Utah under the age of 24 months). She went to a Utah football game on Saturday afternoon. Has everyone got their shot? I am worried because they are expecting higher incidences of the H1N1. Someone just tell me to chill, okay?> >>> >>Stefani 61 year old Utahn> >>ILD 2/2006, NSIP (cellular) 6/2009, UIP 9/2009, Diabetes II 2/2006, Sleep Apnea 4/2009> >>> >> > >> >>

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Being in rural New Hampshire has it's drawbacks! My primary care physician's

office has no idea when they will be getting the H1N1 vaccine. However, I was

able to get on the very small waiting list that my pulmonologist has for

priority patients at the hospital an hour away. But, they're not sure when they

are getting it!! The thing that's discouraging is that I see and read about

other places in the country where even the " general public " is getting the H1N1

shots! It's just crazy the way the distribution is working. I just hope that I

don't get it and am sick when I get " the call " for my transplant.

Steve aka...Knip UIP/IPF 9/07 VATS 12/07

Transplant Listed 10/19/09

57 New Hampshire

> >

> >

> >>From: Beth <mbmurtha (AT) yahoo (DOT) com>

> >>Subject: Re: No H1N1 for you! (quote the 'Soup Nazi' from

Seinfeld)

> >>To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. com

> >>Date: Monday, October 26, 2009, 4:50 PM

> >>

> >>

> >> 

> >>Stefani,

> >>All I can say is you are not alone. H1N1 vaccine is in extremely short

supply at the moment. Health departments and medical centers are receiving a

small percentage of the doses that they ordered which is why they are turning

people away. (As an example, Duke ordered 5000 doses, they have so far received

300) There just isn't enough vaccine to accomodate all the people who want the

shot. The process you described is happening all over the country right now.

> >>

> >>I'm reading and hearing that more vaccine is on the way over the next few

weeks. I would suggest calling your pulmonologists office to see if they have

vaccine or a suggestion as to where you may be able to get it. If you have to

wait awhile (and odds are you may) the good news is people receiving this

vaccine are showing  " robust immune response " in 8-10 days. That's excellent and

reassuring that you will begin to be protected relatively fast after

getting the shot.

> >>

> >>In the mean time be as careful as you can and if you do become ill get to a

doctor ASAP. The sooner treatment with Tamiflu is begun the less likely you are

to have major complications.

> >>

> >> Beth

> >>Moderator

> >>Fibrotic NSIP 06/06 Dermatomyositis 11/08

> >> 

> >> 

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> ________________________________

> From: Stefani <sfshaner (AT) gmail (DOT) com>

> >>To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. com

> >>Sent: Mon, October 26, 2009 11:07:26 AM

> >>Subject: No H1N1 for you! (quote the 'Soup Nazi' from

Seinfeld)

> >>

> >> 

> >>What has everyone else's experiences been? Last Tuesday I went down to the

local Health Department to get an H1N1 vaccine (the shot, not the nasal spray)

and was told it was only for children and mothers. I told them I was in the high

risk group as I had Pulmonary Fibrosis. They gave me a flier with the phone

number to call and check when it would be available for high risk groups outside

of infants and their mothers. Last Thursday and Friday (according to the

recording at their offices this morning) they suspended shots and opened for 5

hours on Saturday with the " expanded " list of receivers. I only heard about it

Saturday, after they had closed at 1:00 pm. I called today after 8:00 am (my

local health clinic did not have any vaccine so I had to go through the Health

Department). The Health Department said I should not have been turned away, but

it was too late, the vaccine would not be in until some unknown time in

November. So, lesson learned...

> throw a tantrum... demand your shot and don't take NO for an answer. I

already asked my own doctor and the University rehab if they had access to the

vaccine and it was a negative on all fronts. To say the least, I am rather

upset. My daughter is under the weather and staying away from me (she lives

outside our home) because she has symptoms (headaches, fever) and she is 25

(also in the danger area, but uneligible for mist or vaccine because they have

so many children in Utah under the age of 24 months). She went to a Utah

football game on Saturday afternoon. Has everyone got their shot? I am worried

because they are expecting higher incidences of the H1N1. Someone just tell me

to chill, okay?

> >>

> >>Stefani 61 year old Utahn

> >>ILD 2/2006, NSIP (cellular) 6/2009, UIP 9/2009, Diabetes II 2/2006, Sleep

Apnea 4/2009

> >>

> >>

> >

> >

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Dyane, I live in a Philadelphia

suburb and there are no swine flu shots here either.

My doctor said that I am on his priority list for whenever the office

gets the vaccine.

They have been told ...middle to end of November!

I called the DPH ( department of Public health) and was told the same

thing.

Z fibriotic NSIP/05

Z 65, fibriotic NSIP/05/PA

And

“mild” PH/10/07

No,

NSIP was not self-inflicted…I never smoked!

Potter,

reader,carousel lover and MomMom to Darah and Sara

“I’m

gonna be iron like a lion in Zion” Bob Marley

Vinca

Minor-periwinkle is my flower

DyaneB wrote:

Steve,

Being in the 5th largest city in the US doesn't help. Only kids and

pregnant women here, even my doctors don't have any. I told my kids if

I die sue the state for refusing me a shot. One thing I have "heard"

is that we 'more mature' folks have a bit of immunity from a previous

swine? flu, maybe the Hong Kong that was so bad in 68? It does seem to

be skipping most older folks. Unfortunetly I can't find that

supposition in print anywhere, everyone has just heard it. We can hope

anyhow. Good Luck

Dyane Phoenix ipf 02

> > >

> > >

> > >>From: Beth mbmurtha (AT) yahoo (DOT) com>

> > >>Subject: Re: No H1N1 for you!

(quote the 'Soup Nazi' from Seinfeld)

> > >>To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. com

> > >>Date: Monday, October 26, 2009, 4:50 PM

> > >>

> > >>

> > >>Â

> > >>Stefani,

> > >>All I can say is you are not alone. H1N1 vaccine is

in extremely short supply at the moment. Health departments and medical

centers are receiving a small percentage of the doses that they

ordered which is why they are turning people away. (As an example,

Duke ordered 5000 doses, they have so far received 300)Â There

just isn't enough vaccine to accomodate all the people who want the

shot. The process you described is happening all over the country right

now.

> > >>

> > >>I'm reading and hearing that more vaccine is on the

way over the next few weeks. I would suggest calling your

pulmonologists office to see if they have vaccine or a suggestion as

to where you may be able to get it. If you have to wait awhile (and

odds are you may) the good news is people receiving this vaccine are

showing "robust immune response" in 8-10 days. That's excellent and

reassuring that you will begin to be protected relatively fast after

getting the shot.

> > >>

> > >>In the mean time be as careful as you can and if you

do become ill get to a doctor ASAP. The sooner treatment with Tamiflu

is begun the less likely you are to have major complications.

> > >>

> > >> Beth

> > >>Moderator

> > >>Fibrotic NSIP 06/06 Dermatomyositis 11/08

> > >>Â

> > >>Â

> > >>

> > >>

> > >>

> > >>

> > >>

> > ________________________________

> > From: Stefani sfshaner (AT) gmail (DOT) com>

> > >>To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. com

> > >>Sent: Mon, October 26, 2009 11:07:26 AM

> > >>Subject: No H1N1 for you! (quote

the 'Soup Nazi' from Seinfeld)

> > >>

> > >>Â

> > >>What has everyone else's experiences been? Last

Tuesday I went down to the local Health Department to get an H1N1

vaccine (the shot, not the nasal spray) and was told it was only for

children and mothers. I told them I was in the high risk group as I had

Pulmonary Fibrosis. They gave me a flier with the phone number to call

and check when it would be available for high risk groups outside of

infants and their mothers. Last Thursday and Friday (according to the

recording at their offices this morning) they suspended shots and

opened for 5 hours on Saturday with the "expanded" list of receivers. I

only heard about it Saturday, after they had closed at 1:00 pm. I

called today after 8:00 am (my local health clinic did not have any

vaccine so I had to go through the Health Department). The Health

Department said I should not have been turned away, but it was too

late, the vaccine would not be in until some unknown time in November.

So, lesson learned...

> > throw a tantrum... demand your shot and don't take NO for an

answer. I already asked my own doctor and the University rehab if they

had access to the vaccine and it was a negative on all fronts. To say

the least, I am rather upset. My daughter is under the weather and

staying away from me (she lives outside our home) because she has

symptoms (headaches, fever) and she is 25 (also in the danger area, but

uneligible for mist or vaccine because they have so many children in

Utah under the age of 24 months). She went to a Utah football game on

Saturday afternoon. Has everyone got their shot? I am worried because

they are expecting higher incidences of the H1N1. Someone just tell me

to chill, okay?

> > >>

> > >>Stefani 61 year old Utahn

> > >>ILD 2/2006, NSIP (cellular) 6/2009, UIP 9/2009,

Diabetes II 2/2006, Sleep Apnea 4/2009

> > >>

> > >>

> > >

> > >

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,What made me so mad was last weekend they had all these clinics and they advertised kids, pregnant women and serious underlying conditions only. Even had that on the DPH website. But yet when I tried 2 places, they were only giving kids and pregnant women. Then I hear they only used 17000 of 50000 dosages, so are us sickos gonna get those? Nope doing school clinics on Monday. I understand the kids are hit hard, but don't say I can have one then change the rules.Dyane Phoenix ipf 02> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>From: Beth mbmurtha (AT) yahoo (DOT) com>> > > > >>Subject: Re: No H1N1 for you! (quote the 'Soup > > Nazi' from Seinfeld)> > > > >>To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. com> > > > >>Date: Monday, October 26, 2009, 4:50 PM> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >> > > > > >>Stefani,> > > > >>All I can say is you are not alone. H1N1 vaccine is in > > extremely short supply at the moment. Health departments and medical > > centers are receiving a small percentage of the doses that they > > ordered which is why they are turning people away. (As an example, > > Duke ordered 5000 doses, they have so far received 300) There > > just isn't enough vaccine to accomodate all the people who want the > > shot. The process you described is happening all over the country > > right now.> > > > >>> > > > >>I'm reading and hearing that more vaccine is on the way over > > the next few weeks. I would suggest calling your pulmonologists > > office to see if they have vaccine or a suggestion as to where you > > may be able to get it. If you have to wait awhile (and odds are you > > may) the good news is people receiving this vaccine are > > showing "robust immune response" in 8-10 days. That's excellent and > > reassuring that you will begin to be protected relatively fast after > > getting the shot.> > > > >>> > > > >>In the mean time be as careful as you can and if you do become > > ill get to a doctor ASAP. The sooner treatment with Tamiflu is begun > > the less likely you are to have major complications.> > > > >>> > > > >> Beth> > > > >>Moderator> > > > >>Fibrotic NSIP 06/06 Dermatomyositis 11/08> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > ________________________________> > > > From: Stefani sfshaner (AT) gmail (DOT) com>> > > > >>To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. com> > > > >>Sent: Mon, October 26, 2009 11:07:26 AM> > > > >>Subject: No H1N1 for you! (quote the 'Soup > > Nazi' from Seinfeld)> > > > >>> > > > >> > > > > >>What has everyone else's experiences been? Last Tuesday I went > > down to the local Health Department to get an H1N1 vaccine (the shot, > > not the nasal spray) and was told it was only for children and > > mothers. I told them I was in the high risk group as I had Pulmonary > > Fibrosis. They gave me a flier with the phone number to call and check > > when it would be available for high risk groups outside of infants and > > their mothers. Last Thursday and Friday (according to the recording at > > their offices this morning) they suspended shots and opened for 5 > > hours on Saturday with the "expanded" list of receivers. I only heard > > about it Saturday, after they had closed at 1:00 pm. I called today > > after 8:00 am (my local health clinic did not have any vaccine so I > > had to go through the Health Department). The Health Department said I > > should not have been turned away, but it was too late, the vaccine > > would not be in until some unknown time in November. So, lesson learned...> > > > throw a tantrum... demand your shot and don't take NO for an > > answer. I already asked my own doctor and the University rehab if they > > had access to the vaccine and it was a negative on all fronts. To say > > the least, I am rather upset. My daughter is under the weather and > > staying away from me (she lives outside our home) because she has > > symptoms (headaches, fever) and she is 25 (also in the danger area, > > but uneligible for mist or vaccine because they have so many children > > in Utah under the age of 24 months). She went to a Utah football game > > on Saturday afternoon. Has everyone got their shot? I am worried > > because they are expecting higher incidences of the H1N1. Someone just > > tell me to chill, okay?> > > > >>> > > > >>Stefani 61 year old Utahn> > > > >>ILD 2/2006, NSIP (cellular) 6/2009, UIP 9/2009, Diabetes II > > 2/2006, Sleep Apnea 4/2009> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >> >>

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In our part of So. FL the only place that seems to have the H1N1 shots are the

Walgreen Drug Store Clinics. I went there today and was told that if I was under

65 with a compromised immune system I could have the shot. But, since I'm 66 I

can't.

When I asked what proof I would need to show I had an underlying condition she

said I just fill out the form and sigh it.

But, I would have to have proof of age.

I'll try thr health sept.

Terre, IPF 6-08, FL

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >>From: Beth mbmurtha (AT) yahoo (DOT) com>

> > > > > >>Subject: Re: No H1N1 for you! (quote the

> 'Soup

> > > Nazi' from Seinfeld)

> > > > > >>To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. com

> > > > > >>Date: Monday, October 26, 2009, 4:50 PM

> > > > > >>

> > > > > >>

> > > > > >>Â

> > > > > >>Stefani,

> > > > > >>All I can say is you are not alone. H1N1 vaccine is in

> > > extremely short supply at the moment. Health departments and medical

> > > centers are receiving a small percentage of the doses that they

> > > ordered which is why they are turning people away. (As anÂ

> example,

> > > Duke ordered 5000 doses, they have so far received 300)Â There

> > > just isn't enough vaccine to accomodate all the people who want

> the

> > > shot. The process you described is happening all over the country

> > > right now.

> > > > > >>

> > > > > >>I'm reading and hearing that more vaccine is on the way

> over

> > > the next few weeks. I would suggest calling your pulmonologists

> > > office to see if they have vaccine or a suggestion as to where

> you

> > > may be able to get it. If you have to wait awhile (and odds are

> you

> > > may) the good news is people receiving this vaccine are

> > > showing " robust immune response " in 8-10 days. That's excellent

> and

> > > reassuring that you will begin to be protected relatively fast

> after

> > > getting the shot.

> > > > > >>

> > > > > >>In the mean time be as careful as you can and if you do

> become

> > > ill get to a doctor ASAP. The sooner treatment with Tamiflu is

> begun

> > > the less likely you are to have major complications.

> > > > > >>

> > > > > >> Beth

> > > > > >>Moderator

> > > > > >>Fibrotic NSIP 06/06 Dermatomyositis 11/08

> > > > > >>Â

> > > > > >>Â

> > > > > >>

> > > > > >>

> > > > > >>

> > > > > >>

> > > > > >>

> > > > > ________________________________

> > > > > From: Stefani sfshaner (AT) gmail (DOT) com>

> > > > > >>To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. com

> > > > > >>Sent: Mon, October 26, 2009 11:07:26 AM

> > > > > >>Subject: No H1N1 for you! (quote the 'Soup

> > > Nazi' from Seinfeld)

> > > > > >>

> > > > > >>Â

> > > > > >>What has everyone else's experiences been? Last Tuesday I went

> > > down to the local Health Department to get an H1N1 vaccine (the

> shot,

> > > not the nasal spray) and was told it was only for children and

> > > mothers. I told them I was in the high risk group as I had Pulmonary

> > > Fibrosis. They gave me a flier with the phone number to call and

> check

> > > when it would be available for high risk groups outside of infants

> and

> > > their mothers. Last Thursday and Friday (according to the recording

> at

> > > their offices this morning) they suspended shots and opened for 5

> > > hours on Saturday with the " expanded " list of receivers. I only

> heard

> > > about it Saturday, after they had closed at 1:00 pm. I called today

> > > after 8:00 am (my local health clinic did not have any vaccine so I

> > > had to go through the Health Department). The Health Department said

> I

> > > should not have been turned away, but it was too late, the vaccine

> > > would not be in until some unknown time in November. So, lesson

> learned...

> > > > > throw a tantrum... demand your shot and don't take NO for an

> > > answer. I already asked my own doctor and the University rehab if

> they

> > > had access to the vaccine and it was a negative on all fronts. To

> say

> > > the least, I am rather upset. My daughter is under the weather and

> > > staying away from me (she lives outside our home) because she has

> > > symptoms (headaches, fever) and she is 25 (also in the danger area,

> > > but uneligible for mist or vaccine because they have so many

> children

> > > in Utah under the age of 24 months). She went to a Utah football

> game

> > > on Saturday afternoon. Has everyone got their shot? I am worried

> > > because they are expecting higher incidences of the H1N1. Someone

> just

> > > tell me to chill, okay?

> > > > > >>

> > > > > >>Stefani 61 year old Utahn

> > > > > >>ILD 2/2006, NSIP (cellular) 6/2009, UIP 9/2009, Diabetes II

> > > 2/2006, Sleep Apnea 4/2009

> > > > > >>

> > > > > >>

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> >

>

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Terre,

So if you are over 65, tough toodles? Thats half the population of

Florida! What idiots.

Dyane

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >>From: Beth mbmurtha (AT) yahoo (DOT) com>

> > > > > > >>Subject: Re: No H1N1 for you! (quote the

> > 'Soup

> > > > Nazi' from Seinfeld)

> > > > > > >>To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. com

> > > > > > >>Date: Monday, October 26, 2009, 4:50 PM

> > > > > > >>

> > > > > > >>

> > > > > > >>Â

> > > > > > >>Stefani,

> > > > > > >>All I can say is you are not alone. H1N1 vaccine

is in

> > > > extremely short supply at the moment. Health departments and

medical

> > > > centers are receiving a small percentage of the doses that

they

> > > > ordered which is why they are turning people away. (As anÂ

> > example,

> > > > Duke ordered 5000 doses, they have so far received 300)Â

There

> > > > just isn't enough vaccine to accomodate all the people who

want

> > the

> > > > shot. The process you described is happening all over the

country

> > > > right now.

> > > > > > >>

> > > > > > >>I'm reading and hearing that more vaccine is on the

way

> > over

> > > > the next few weeks. I would suggest calling your

pulmonologists

> > > > office to see if they have vaccine or a suggestion as to

where

> > you

> > > > may be able to get it. If you have to wait awhile (and odds

are

> > you

> > > > may) the good news is people receiving this vaccine are

> > > > showing " robust immune response " in 8-10 days. That's

excellent

> > and

> > > > reassuring that you will begin to be protected relatively

fast

> > after

> > > > getting the shot.

> > > > > > >>

> > > > > > >>In the mean time be as careful as you can and if you

do

> > become

> > > > ill get to a doctor ASAP. The sooner treatment with Tamiflu

is

> > begun

> > > > the less likely you are to have major complications.

> > > > > > >>

> > > > > > >> Beth

> > > > > > >>Moderator

> > > > > > >>Fibrotic NSIP 06/06 Dermatomyositis 11/08

> > > > > > >>Â

> > > > > > >>Â

> > > > > > >>

> > > > > > >>

> > > > > > >>

> > > > > > >>

> > > > > > >>

> > > > > > ________________________________

> > > > > > From: Stefani sfshaner (AT) gmail (DOT) com>

> > > > > > >>To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. com

> > > > > > >>Sent: Mon, October 26, 2009 11:07:26 AM

> > > > > > >>Subject: No H1N1 for you! (quote the

'Soup

> > > > Nazi' from Seinfeld)

> > > > > > >>

> > > > > > >>Â

> > > > > > >>What has everyone else's experiences been? Last Tuesday I

went

> > > > down to the local Health Department to get an H1N1 vaccine (the

> > shot,

> > > > not the nasal spray) and was told it was only for children and

> > > > mothers. I told them I was in the high risk group as I had

Pulmonary

> > > > Fibrosis. They gave me a flier with the phone number to call and

> > check

> > > > when it would be available for high risk groups outside of

infants

> > and

> > > > their mothers. Last Thursday and Friday (according to the

recording

> > at

> > > > their offices this morning) they suspended shots and opened for

5

> > > > hours on Saturday with the " expanded " list of receivers. I only

> > heard

> > > > about it Saturday, after they had closed at 1:00 pm. I called

today

> > > > after 8:00 am (my local health clinic did not have any vaccine

so I

> > > > had to go through the Health Department). The Health Department

said

> > I

> > > > should not have been turned away, but it was too late, the

vaccine

> > > > would not be in until some unknown time in November. So, lesson

> > learned...

> > > > > > throw a tantrum... demand your shot and don't take NO for an

> > > > answer. I already asked my own doctor and the University rehab

if

> > they

> > > > had access to the vaccine and it was a negative on all fronts.

To

> > say

> > > > the least, I am rather upset. My daughter is under the weather

and

> > > > staying away from me (she lives outside our home) because she

has

> > > > symptoms (headaches, fever) and she is 25 (also in the danger

area,

> > > > but uneligible for mist or vaccine because they have so many

> > children

> > > > in Utah under the age of 24 months). She went to a Utah football

> > game

> > > > on Saturday afternoon. Has everyone got their shot? I am worried

> > > > because they are expecting higher incidences of the H1N1.

Someone

> > just

> > > > tell me to chill, okay?

> > > > > > >>

> > > > > > >>Stefani 61 year old Utahn

> > > > > > >>ILD 2/2006, NSIP (cellular) 6/2009, UIP 9/2009, Diabetes

II

> > > > 2/2006, Sleep Apnea 4/2009

> > > > > > >>

> > > > > > >>

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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Roxanne -

It made for one fine afternoon, yesterday. Just a little worry or two to wipe off the list!

B

Barbara McD

PF--Sept 08; Sjogren's--Apr 09; Reynaud's--seems like forever

Beautiful Western NC

Attitude is everything.

To: Breathe-Support Sent: Thu, October 29, 2009 7:20:34 PMSubject: Re: H1N1

B,

Congrats on both the good mammogram and the shot....It sure does make you feel empowered doesn't it?Roxanne, 59, South Carolina2006 Asthma/ PF2008 PF/ Sarcoidosis/ GerdI pray you enough.....

From: Beth <mbmurtha (AT) yahoo (DOT) com>Subject: Re: No H1N1 for you! (quote the 'Soup Nazi' from Seinfeld)To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. comDate: Monday, October 26, 2009, 4:50 PM

Stefani,

All I can say is you are not alone. H1N1 vaccine is in extremely short supply at the moment. Health departments and medical centers are receiving a small percentage of the doses that they ordered which is why they are turning people away. (As an example, Duke ordered 5000 doses, they have so far received 300) There just isn't enough vaccine to accomodate all the people who want the shot. The process you described is happening all over the country right now.

I'm reading and hearing that more vaccine is on the way over the next few weeks. I would suggest calling your pulmonologists office to see if they have vaccine or a suggestion as to where you may be able to get it. If you have to wait awhile (and odds are you may) the good news is people receiving this vaccine are showing "robust immune response" in 8-10 days. That's excellent and reassuring that you will begin to be protected relatively fast after getting the shot.

In the mean time be as careful as you can and if you do become ill get to a doctor ASAP. The sooner treatment with Tamiflu is begun the less likely you are to have major complications.

Beth

Moderator

Fibrotic NSIP 06/06 Dermatomyositis 11/08

From: Stefani <sfshaner (AT) gmail (DOT) com>To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. comSent: Mon, October 26, 2009 11:07:26 AMSubject: No H1N1 for you! (quote the 'Soup Nazi' from Seinfeld)

What has everyone else's experiences been? Last Tuesday I went down to the local Health Department to get an H1N1 vaccine (the shot, not the nasal spray) and was told it was only for children and mothers. I told them I was in the high risk group as I had Pulmonary Fibrosis. They gave me a flier with the phone number to call and check when it would be available for high risk groups outside of infants and their mothers. Last Thursday and Friday (according to the recording at their offices this morning) they suspended shots and opened for 5 hours on Saturday with the "expanded" list of receivers. I only heard about it Saturday, after they had closed at 1:00 pm. I called today after 8:00 am (my local health clinic did not have any vaccine so I had to go through the Health Department). The Health Department said I should not have been turned away, but it was too late, the vaccine would not be in until some unknown time in November. So, lesson learned...

throw a tantrum... demand your shot and don't take NO for an answer. I already asked my own doctor and the University rehab if they had access to the vaccine and it was a negative on all fronts. To say the least, I am rather upset. My daughter is under the weather and staying away from me (she lives outside our home) because she has symptoms (headaches, fever) and she is 25 (also in the danger area, but uneligible for mist or vaccine because they have so many children in Utah under the age of 24 months). She went to a Utah football game on Saturday afternoon. Has everyone got their shot? I am worried because they are expecting higher incidences of the H1N1. Someone just tell me to chill, okay?Stefani 61 year old UtahnILD 2/2006, NSIP (cellular) 6/2009, UIP 9/2009, Diabetes II 2/2006, Sleep Apnea 4/2009

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Barbara,These days I'm happy to have anything that shortens that ole list..Roxanne, 59, South Carolina

2006 Asthma/ PF

2008 PF/ Sarcoidosis/Gerd

I pray you enough......

From: Beth <mbmurtha (AT) yahoo (DOT) com>Subject: Re: No H1N1 for you! (quote the 'Soup Nazi' from Seinfeld)To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. comDate: Monday, October 26, 2009, 4:50 PM

 

Stefani,

All I can say is you are not alone. H1N1 vaccine is in extremely short supply at the moment. Health departments and medical centers are receiving a small percentage of the doses that they ordered which is why they are turning people away. (As an example, Duke ordered 5000 doses, they have so far received 300) There just isn't enough vaccine to accomodate all the people who want the shot. The process you described is happening all over the country right now.

 

I'm reading and hearing that more vaccine is on the way over the next few weeks. I would suggest calling your pulmonologists office to see if they have vaccine or a suggestion as to where you may be able to get it. If you have to wait awhile (and odds are you may) the good news is people receiving this vaccine are showing "robust immune response" in 8-10 days. That's excellent and reassuring that you will begin to be protected relatively fast after getting the shot.

In the mean time be as careful as you can and if you do become ill get to a doctor ASAP. The sooner treatment with Tamiflu is begun the less likely you are to have major complications.

 

Beth

Moderator

Fibrotic NSIP 06/06 Dermatomyositis 11/08

 

 

From: Stefani <sfshaner (AT) gmail (DOT) com>To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. comSent: Mon, October 26, 2009 11:07:26 AMSubject: No H1N1 for you! (quote the 'Soup Nazi' from Seinfeld) 

What has everyone else's experiences been? Last Tuesday I went down to the local Health Department to get an H1N1 vaccine (the shot, not the nasal spray) and was told it was only for children and mothers. I told them I was in the high risk group as I had Pulmonary Fibrosis. They gave me a flier with the phone number to call and check when it would be available for high risk groups outside of infants and their mothers. Last Thursday and Friday (according to the recording at their offices this morning) they suspended shots and opened for 5 hours on Saturday with the "expanded" list of receivers. I only heard about it Saturday, after they had closed at 1:00 pm. I called today after 8:00 am (my local health clinic did not have any vaccine so I had to go through the Health Department). The Health Department said I should not have been turned away, but it was too late, the vaccine would not be in until some unknown time in November. So, lesson learned...

throw a tantrum... demand your shot and don't take NO for an answer. I already asked my own doctor and the University rehab if they had access to the vaccine and it was a negative on all fronts. To say the least, I am rather upset. My daughter is under the weather and staying away from me (she lives outside our home) because she has symptoms (headaches, fever) and she is 25 (also in the danger area, but uneligible for mist or vaccine because they have so many children in Utah under the age of 24 months). She went to a Utah football game on Saturday afternoon. Has everyone got their shot? I am worried because they are expecting higher incidences of the H1N1. Someone just tell me to chill, okay?Stefani 61 year old UtahnILD 2/2006, NSIP (cellular) 6/2009, UIP 9/2009, Diabetes II 2/2006, Sleep Apnea 4/2009

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Bob and Bruce....I am not of the same opinions as you two express, but I don't want to incite a political discussion.

There's room for all of us!

MamaSher; 71, IPF 3-2006, OR.Don't fret about tomorrow, God is already there!

Checking in from Chattanooga TNTo: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. comDate: Thursday, October 29, 2009, 8:45 PM

Hi all!

After a longish day in the car I'm happy to report the safe arrival in Chattanooga of myself, Peggy and , Teri Marietta and Jane. (well Jane just came down for a couple of hours to chat this evening but she'll be back tomorrow with Eddie.

Tomorrow we'll have lots more arrivals to report. I'm so happy to be here!! Off to bed shortly, I'm really tired but once again, supremely happy!

Beth

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Fibrotic NSIP 06/06 Dermatomyositis 11/08

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Sher,

In all honesty this isn't really a political matter. I've read all the posts and I didn't read where either Bruce or Bob expressed any political views at all.

The shortage of H1N1 vaccine so far has to do with overly ambitious estimates of how quickly they would be able to manufacture HUGE quantities of vaccine. It has taken longer than they thought it would.

Because of short supply decisions have been made about who gets 'first dibs' on the existing vaccine. Children and pregnant women, believe it or not, are at higher risk than most of us.

This whole effort has been poorly planned and even more poorly organized but that's a problem of government and bureaucracy in general not politics.

The good news seems to be (at least according to nearly everything I'm hearing and reading in the media) is that the situation is going to improve dramatically in the next couple of weeks and there will be vaccine more reliably available very soon.

Stefani was absolutely correct when she said this whole effort has been a fiasco from an organizational standpoint and that frustrates and angers people who are just trying to stay healthy!

Beth

Moderator

Fibrotic NSIP 06/06 Dermatomyositis 11/08

To: Breathe-Support Sent: Sat, October 31, 2009 7:43:54 PMSubject: Re: H1N1

Bob and Bruce....I am not of the same opinions as you two express, but I don't want to incite a political discussion.

There's room for all of us!

MamaSher; 71, IPF 3-2006, OR.Don't fret about tomorrow, God is already there!

Checking in from Chattanooga TNTo: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. comDate: Thursday, October 29, 2009, 8:45 PM

Hi all!

After a longish day in the car I'm happy to report the safe arrival in Chattanooga of myself, Peggy and , Teri Marietta and Jane. (well Jane just came down for a couple of hours to chat this evening but she'll be back tomorrow with Eddie.

Tomorrow we'll have lots more arrivals to report. I'm so happy to be here!! Off to bed shortly, I'm really tired but once again, supremely happy!

Beth

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MB...agreed. The Oregonian states this morning that there are 27 million 'shots' stock piled in a warehouse. That's a peculiar shortage isn't it?

Has there been any skyping? I wonder if I missed it or there hasn't been any.

I know everyone is having a good time.

MamaSher; 71, IPF 3-2006, OR.Don't fret about tomorrow, God is already there!

Checking in from Chattanooga TNTo: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. comDate: Thursday, October 29, 2009, 8:45 PM

Hi all!

After a longish day in the car I'm happy to report the safe arrival in Chattanooga of myself, Peggy and , Teri Marietta and Jane. (well Jane just came down for a couple of hours to chat this evening but she'll be back tomorrow with Eddie.

Tomorrow we'll have lots more arrivals to report. I'm so happy to be here!! Off to bed shortly, I'm really tired but once again, supremely happy!

Beth

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Sher

They are shipping millions each day into and out of the warehouses. It's

the typical go from empty warehouse to sudden huge quantities hitting

and trying to turn those around. We're seeing it at all levels of

distribution as we're also seeing city health departments get shipments

and announcing availability but having lines so long they can't possibly

serve them all in a day.

One other thing that has gone haywire it seems. The mist. While the mist

is appropriate for some parts of the population, it isn't for most of

those in priority. Therefore, a health center may have long lines and

not be able to find the people in those lines to use the mist. Having a

mist and shot just complicated matters. I feel sorry too for the mothers

who have stood in line for hours with their kids and gotten vaccine for

their kids but, of course, none for themselves, so they still have to go

at a later stage for their vaccine.

This has just been a terribly unfortunate group of circumstances

starting with the timing of H1N1 and then the ease with which it spreads

as well as it being so different in terms of who it impacts most. They

certainly weren't prepared for a second vaccine in a year and for a

relatively shorter lead time.

Now, I do think one thing has happened positive in all this and that is

the most public awareness I've ever seen of the danger of flu, of the

issues regarding its spread, of precautions, and of the need for the

vaccine. I see hand sanitizers everywhere and warnings. Also, the apathy

that exists with many toward vaccines, sure doesn't seem to be as

prevalent this year. I will admit that before PF, I never got a flu

vaccine. That was not only unwise for my own purposes, but it was, in

hindsight, inconsiderate toward others who could be exposed potentially

by me. I also went to work sick and now realize how wrong that was.

Schools and businesses are more aware now and telling people to stay

home. The other part of the awareness is getting to doctors and getting

antivirals and hopefully that part has been heightened too.

Now, after this year, do you think we'll return to apathy or that we

will retain some of the lessons learned? Time will tell.

>

>

> From: Beth mbmurtha (AT) yahoo (DOT) com>

> Subject: Checking in from

Chattanooga TN

> To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. com

> Date: Thursday, October 29, 2009, 8:45 PM

>

>

>

> Hi all!

> After a longish day in the car I'm happy to

report the safe arrival in Chattanooga of myself, Peggy and , Teri

Marietta and Jane. (well Jane just came down for a couple of hours to

chat this evening but she'll be back tomorrow with Eddie.

> Tomorrow we'll have lots more arrivals to

report. I'm so happy to be here!! Off to bed shortly, I'm really tired

but once again, supremely happy!

>

> Beth

> Moderator

> Fibrotic NSIP 06/06 Dermatomyositis 11/08

>

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Beth,

Very well said, much better than I could do......We have a great moderator! I can not say that for the CDC. Hope you are all having a great time......I'm sure you are, i wanted to be there but wasn't able to this time. Hope its as beautiful a day there as it is here in Grand Rapids Mi. Of course, to me, every day is beautiful as long as I am above ground.

Bob IPF 1/09 5, bypasses 2001

From: Beth <mbmurtha (AT) yahoo (DOT) com>Subject: Checking in from Chattanooga TNTo: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. comDate: Thursday, October 29, 2009, 8:45 PM

Hi all!

After a longish day in the car I'm happy to report the safe arrival in Chattanooga of myself, Peggy and , Teri Marietta and Jane. (well Jane just came down for a couple of hours to chat this evening but she'll be back tomorrow with Eddie.

Tomorrow we'll have lots more arrivals to report. I'm so happy to be here!! Off to bed shortly, I'm really tired but once again, supremely happy!

Beth

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We live in sdale, AZ. My wife had small cell lung

cancer seven years ago but has survived it. I was diagnosed with IPF in

the fall of 07 by the Mayo Clinic and by Dr. Brown at the world-renowned Jewish

Medical Center in Denver. I started the Bosentan trial in Feb 08. We both

went through heart tests this summer. Neither of us have PH. Thanks

for sharing.

Jack Mc

From: Breathe-Support

[mailto:Breathe-Support ] On Behalf Of Sher Bauman

Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 12:43 PM

To: Breathe-Support

Subject: Re: H1N1

Jack Mc.... let me welcome you to our board and add that I'm sad to

hear about your wife. It has to be hard to care for both of you Jack.

I'm in Oregon and my husband and I have about the same situation.

He has been my caregiver for a few years and now he will need ME. So we will

help each other and that's ok too.

I was dx with IPF March of 2006. Went to UWMC in Seattle the

first of Oct and saw Dr. Raghu who is considered the 'Gold Standard' here

in our area. He told me he thinks I may also have PH. Tests to

confirm are pending. I'm anxious to find out the results of course.

He mentioned the 'Viagra' thing and a couple of others. I

will ask about this Letaris med.

Where do you live Jack?

Do take care and my best wishes to your wife...

MamaSher;

71, IPF 3-2006, OR.

Don't fret about tomorrow, God is already there!

-----

Original Message -----

From: Jack McVickers

To: Breathe-Support

Sent: Sunday, November 01,

2009 10:55 PM

Subject: RE:

H1N1

To All:

I am new

to the group and this is my first message so bear with me please.

My wife

is recuperating from lung cancer. It left her with radiation and chemo

damage to her lungs so she is on oxygen and two inhalers. I have IPF and

am participating in the Phase III Bosentan experimental drug trial. We

live in Arizona and are both 77 years old. In previous years we went to

the head of the line for flu shots but this year discovered that while we could

get the normal flu shot we were to go to the end of the line for the scarce

H1N1 shot since we are over 65. Our pre-existing conditions offer no

priority as far as H1N1 is concerned.

I

discussed this with our pulmonologist. He explained that the H1N1 virus

was much different than the other “normal” flu viruses. Other

viruses are seasonal while H1N1 is not. It occurs during all 12 months of

the year. We know little about it. We have observed that it mainly

attacks infants and younger people. It has been observed that for some

unknown reason people over age 65 very rarely get the disease. The best

theory is that at some time in our past we were exposed, perhaps more than

once, to a flu bug that was so similar to HiN1 that it conferred immunity on

us. This being the case, we no longer fear for our well-being and are

content to see our grandchildren in line ahead of us. We have had our

“normal” flu shots, per the doctor’s recommendation, and will

get the H1N1 shots after the supply is sufficient, probably by the end of

November. But the fact that this is “normal flu season” is

meaningless because H1N1 has been active all year long.

Jack

McVickers

From:

Breathe-Support [mailto:Breathe-Support ] On

Behalf Of Burns

Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2009 4:34 PM

To: Breathe-Support

Subject: Re: H1N1

Bob and Beth:

First of all I am in Holland, Mi. Ph 616 392

5816. Call me any time.

I hope I was only being sarcastic about my

government. However, Please consider the following. The powers that

be--perhaps only misguided bureaurcrats--and not political appointees have

selected out an age group that were exposed to the swine flu in the

1970s. Perhaps this is not based on a lie and only on a very bad

assumption. One has to assume that every person living in the United States in

this select age group had to either had swine flu or enough contact with swine

flu to have built an immunity to swine flu. Think about this.

Today's swine flu is not reaching everyone so they might build an immunity for

some future swine flu outbreak and many folks in the select age group were

not exposed to swine flu in any way during the 1970s. I never heard

the name swine flu during the 1970s; however, I am classified as immune to this

flu. So I will live like house bear this winter.

I would urge any citizen of the U. S. to study what

happened to the volunteers at ground zero following 9/11. I am told most

of these folks are suffering severe pulmonary problems at this time. Our

government turned their back to any responsibility for their health care.

The same government told them the air at ground zero posed no health risk.

Burns

From: ROBERT

L SCIBA

To: Breathe-Support

Sent: Sun, November 1, 2009 4:15:20 PM

Subject: Re: H1N1

Beth,

Very

well said, much better than I could do......We have a great

moderator! I can not say that for the CDC. Hope you are all having a

great time......I' m sure you are, i wanted to be there but wasn't able

to this time. Hope its as beautiful a day there as it is here in Grand

Rapids Mi. Of course, to me, every day is beautiful as long as I am above

ground.

Bob IPF

1/09 5, bypasses 2001

From: Beth <mbmurtha (AT) yahoo (DOT) com>

Subject: Checking in from Chattanooga TN

To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. com

Date: Thursday, October 29, 2009, 8:45 PM

Hi all!

After a longish day in

the car I'm happy to report the safe arrival in Chattanooga of myself,

Peggy and , Teri Marietta and Jane. (well Jane just came down for a couple

of hours to chat this evening but she'll be back tomorrow with Eddie.

Tomorrow we'll have lots

more arrivals to report. I'm so happy to be here!! Off to bed

shortly, I'm really tired but once again, supremely happy!

Beth

Moderator

Fibrotic NSIP 06/06 Dermatomyositis 11/08

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