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Carageenan is seaweed and it is illegal, sorry. It's amazing what is in our

food. I hope you have a cat :)

PJ

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> Hi all! I bought some cream yesterday to make some french cream and didn't

think to check the label because I thought what the heck would be in it but

cream. Is there no limit to the bastardization of our food?! Anyway, I'm not

exactly sure what it is, and I'm wondering if it also gets digested by the

bacteria when fermented or if I'm just S.O.L. now. Thank you all for being such

an enormous help!

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> Jen

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Jen- I just wanted to add that I feel your pain... I could not believe how hard

it was to find 1/2 and 1/2 or cream WITHOUT carageenan. And even if something is

organic, they sometimes add it. Why?!?! Fortunately I have found some sound

brands and have to stuck to them.

-Joanna

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> > Hi all! I bought some cream yesterday to make some french cream and didn't

think to check the label because I thought what the heck would be in it but

cream. Is there no limit to the bastardization of our food?! Anyway, I'm not

exactly sure what it is, and I'm wondering if it also gets digested by the

bacteria when fermented or if I'm just S.O.L. now. Thank you all for being such

an enormous help!

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> > Jen

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I have been fuming about the use of carageenan in most brands of cream too.

It is the most ridiculous thing ever. Do not use that cream since carageenan

has been found to cause colitis in rats. It's a horrible ingredient that should

be

completely absent from our diets.

Prior to SCD, I used to get these popsicles from Trader Joe's that always made

me

very sick. I am convinced that it was the carageenan that caused the reaction.

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> Hi all! I bought some cream yesterday to make some french cream and didn't

think to check the label because I thought what the heck would be in it but

cream. Is there no limit to the bastardization of our food?! Anyway, I'm not

exactly sure what it is, and I'm wondering if it also gets digested by the

bacteria when fermented or if I'm just S.O.L. now. Thank you all for being such

an enormous help!

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> Jen

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And not just cream. I'm getting fairly near finally trying yogurt,

so day before yesterday I spent considerable research time at the grocery

store looking for PLAIN yogurt. They had a huge wall of stuff, many

brands, a gazillion flavors. Eventually I did find a couple of plain

unflavored ones. And not a one of them had all legal strains of

bacteria! Guess I'll order some starter.

I could not believe how hard it was to find 1/2 and 1/2 or cream

WITHOUT carageenan.

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My half & half is ultra pasteurized. It's the only organic one (Horizon), so I

just live it.

Holly

Crohn's

SCD 12/01/08

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> > I have been fuming about the use of carageenan in most brands of cream

> > too.

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> Is this regular pasteurized cream or ultra pasteurized?

> I'd avoid ultra pasteurized also (which is often the one with the

> carageenan anyway). It's pretty much a dead food.

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> Luckily we have a great regional dairy in this part of New York which

> doesn't add anything to their milk or cream or whipping cream.

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At 10:18 AM 4/22/2010, you wrote:

or if I'm just S.O.L.

now

S.O.L.

They might not take it back, but I'd be tempted to take it back to the

store you got it from and tell them that you will not buy adulterated

products.

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Marilyn

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Orleans, Louisiana, USA

Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001

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Oak Farms doesn't list anything on their half n half.  They are local, should I write them and ask?

 

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I heard that carageenan is necessary to keep the half & half cream well mixed. Otherwise, it would separate, the fat on top of the water part and nobody would buy it. The guy at the cheese store also told me that there was always carageenan in half & half, even if its not listed in the ingredients. The heavy cream on the other hand doesn't need it, as it is already the upper part of the milk. You can dilute the heavy cream with milk if you want. Although I don't promise it will stay mixed for long :)

Annie >> I agree it's hard to find cream without carageenan

> > As for yogurt to use for starter... Dannon All Natural works great :)> > > > ________________________________> > To: BTVC-SCD > Sent: Thu, April 22, 2010 6:51:23 PM> Subject: Re: Carageenan in cream>

>   > And not just cream.  I'm getting fairly near finally trying yogurt, so day before yesterday I spent considerable research time at the grocery store looking for PLAIN yogurt.  They had a huge wall of stuff, many brands, a gazillion flavors. Eventually I did find a couple of plain unflavored ones. And not a one of them had all legal strains of bacteria!  Guess I'll order some starter. > > > > I could not believe how hard it was to find 1/2 and 1/2 or cream WITHOUT carageenan.>

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Thank you, I think they had this. But I didn't have the list of

legal bacterial strains at the time.

As for yogurt to use for starter... Dannon All Natural works great

:)

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And I finally tried plain Fage as a starter (I used to love to eat this greek

yogurt pre SCD) and it's also great! I only bought it as a last resort because I

was waiting for my freeze-dried starter to come in the mail. For the amount you

get and the minimal packaging that is involved for 6+ months of yogurt, I think

it's a far better deal than grocery store yogurt!

-Joanna

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> Thank you, I think they had this. But I didn't have the list of

> legal bacterial strains at the time.

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> As for yogurt to use for starter... Dannon All Natural works great :)

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Well, I know my local 's Creamery milk doesn't have carageenan because it

separates a lot. The container actually says to shake it before using. What

actually keeps the milk from separating is homogonization. That spins the milk

at a super high rate and mixes the fat into the milk. (Thanks Alton Brown) I

love yogurt made with my local milk because it has this layer of yummy goodness

on top. It's like yogurt butter (haha... it's the fat so it's def like butter).

Now, I need to get off my lazy butt and make some yogurt.

If it matters, Wikipedia says that it's used to thicken milk not keep the fat

from separating.

Misty Kimble

CD - no meds

SCD - 2 years 3 months

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> I heard that carageenan is necessary to keep the half & half cream well mixed.

Otherwise, it would separate, the fat on top of the water part and nobody would

buy it. The guy at the cheese store also told me that there was always

carageenan in half & half, even if its not listed in the ingredients. The heavy

cream on the other hand doesn't need it, as it is already the upper part of the

milk. You can dilute the heavy cream with milk if you want. Although I don't

promise it will stay mixed for long :)

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> Annie

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