Can't Sleep

August 13, 2005

I had severe nightmares for a while when I started with 40 mg of Lexapro, but

thay have somewhat abated. I advised my shrink about it and he ordered another

medication, which has made all the difference in the world to my sleep routine.

My suggestion is to give it another few weeks and,( I assume you see your Doc

routinely, regarding your meds) talk it over with him/her. If you feel you can't

go on another night without sleep, call him.

However, your wierd, life-like dreams/nightmares may continue no matter what he

may prescribe..

Annie in AZ

annmomof5 <annmomof5@...> wrote:

Hi,

The first phase of side effects has worn off now I guess I get to deal

with not sleeping well and dreaming weird dreams all night.

Do any of you exp. this?

I read somewhere that if you can't sleep and have bad dreams to take

Lex at night before bed. I don't know.

This medicine crap still scares me, what else is it doing to me that I

don't know about?

ann

August 13, 2005

I was having very vivd dreams at first, but they stopped. They were either

very good or very bad, but when I woke up it took me a second to distinguish

between my dreams and reality. I rather liked it, at least the vivid good

dreams

>I had severe nightmares for a while when I started with 40 mg of Lexapro,

>but thay have somewhat abated. I advised my shrink about it and he ordered

>another medication, which has made all the difference in the world to my

>sleep routine. My suggestion is to give it another few weeks and,( I assume

>you see your Doc routinely, regarding your meds) talk it over with him/her.

>If you feel you can't go on another night without sleep, call him.

>However, your wierd, life-like dreams/nightmares may continue no matter

>what he may prescribe..

>Annie in AZ

>

>annmomof5 <annmomof5@...> wrote:

>Hi,

>The first phase of side effects has worn off now I guess I get to deal

>with not sleeping well and dreaming weird dreams all night.

>

>Do any of you exp. this?

>I read somewhere that if you can't sleep and have bad dreams to take

>Lex at night before bed. I don't know.

>This medicine crap still scares me, what else is it doing to me that I

>don't know about?

>ann

>

August 13, 2005

right now im only taking 10 i started the first month with only 1/2 at 5 because

the whole one caused upset stomach..which is why i started taking at nite... but

ive gotten used to the 5 mg and the doc upped it...

" some mornings it doesnt seem worth it to gnaw through the leather straps " emo

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January 12, 2006

>

> apart from a messed up colon ... it takes me sooo long to fall asleep

> at night i cant sleep intill 3 or 4 am its been an off and on again

> thing and in the mroning iam sooo tired ? what should i do i even

> workout at night?

==>Ensure you are getting enough calcium/magnesium, or even take extra

magnesium at bedtime - 150 mgs. Lack of calcium in particular causes

sleep problems, but cal & mag need to be balanced, except for that

extra mag at bedtime. Take an epsom salts bath before bedtime to help

your body relax and sleep. Also ensure you are getting enough cod

liver oil, vitamin C, vit. B complex, good fats and minerals (ocean sea

salt). Take vitamin B complex before 3:00 PM - it can also interfere

with sleep. Don't eat any solid foods 3 hours before bedtime. Ensure

you are not consuming any caffeine, which interfere with sleep. Ensure

your bedroom is completely dark, and start cutting down on your

exposure to light about 2 hours before bedtime.

Let us know how you do and it the above helps you in any way.

Bee

June 9, 2006

Sula,

When I was on Atkins my mom found a way to make cheese crispies that

tasted amazing. I think we used to spray a pan (pre-warmed on medium

to med/high heat) with cooking spray and throw down little mounds of

cheddar or mozzarella cheese (maybe 1/8-1/4 cup?) and cook them until

they got crispy and just a bit brown. More brown if you want them

more like crackers. They were AMAZING. Seriously, if they weren't so

high in calories, I'd be making them now I remember poking around

online and finding that someone was doing them in the oven to make

batches at a time. Something to experiment with, at least. There was

a site back then...um, lowcarbfriends.com (?) and they had all kinds

of recipes, so I'm sure they'd have something if they're still around.

-Bonnie

> Apparently, Dr. Bernstein (Diabetic author) put out there that you

can make 'cheese puffs'

> by nuking a piece of American cheese on a bit of freezer paper. And

you really can! I think

> I'm going to experiment with these and see if I can cut the cheese

up and have a bunch of

> little 'crackers' that are better than Cheeze-Its!

>

> SulaBlue

>

June 9, 2006

> Apparently, Dr. Bernstein (Diabetic author) put out there that you can

make 'cheese puffs' by nuking a piece of American cheese on a bit of freezer

paper.

Oh, heck, he didn't invent these! I've been doing this since my first

microwave back in the 1970's! And I think they're evn mentioned in the Sugar

Busters book, too. I know the ladies on the SB message board mention it

frequently. They come out like a nice little cheese cracker when done right.

Sue in NJ

former cheese addict

June 9, 2006

Ok I dont know why? But that sounds REALLY revolting SulaBlue <sulablue2001@...> wrote: So, I put everything I ate today into FitDay.com. Only 1048 calories. WHUPS! So, I had another little snack of a couple of brazil nuts before bed. Now I'm up again and someone on a low-carb list posted about "puffed cheese" for lack of a better word.Apparently, Dr. Bernstein (Diabetic author) put out there that you can make 'cheese

puffs' by nuking a piece of American cheese on a bit of freezer paper. And you really can! I think I'm going to experiment with these and see if I can cut the cheese up and have a bunch of little 'crackers' that are better than Cheeze-Its!SulaBlue -Sapphyre Feel Free to Visit: www.geocities.com/asmallersapphyre www.livejournal.com/users/changescomin www.geocities.com/mothernatureschyld __________________________________________________

March 16, 2007

Mark,

I think you should ask you PCP when you see him tomorrow to refer you to a sleep

lab so you

can find out for sure what is keeping you from sleeping. If you have sleep

apnea or some other

problem, the drugs aren't going to be of much help. I know I have fibro that

messes up my sleep

so the only time I take anything it is always a cold pill like Benidryl or

Sudafed or such. Even the

non-drowsy ones will let me sleep for a bit longer than my usual 2 to 3 hours at

a time. You have

to remember, PA is going to cause you some fatigue even if you get some rest so

don't over do and

don't expect more than your body can accomplish. God Bless,

Janet in Ca

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From: " verkhoturye " <radiomark@...>

> I've been having a very difficult time getting any more than 3 or 4

> hours of sleep every night. I've found that taking even half an

> Ambien when I go to bed has generated a lot of the extra fatigue for

> me, as in all day at work. Right now I'm so tired and worn out, feel

> a lot of tension it my head. I think I don't sleep, in part due to

> the constant flaring and body aches. I've tried real hard to stay

> away from the pain meds, but find myself taking them more and more.

>

> What do you do that helps you get a good night's sleep. I'm going to

> see my family practice doc tomorrow. Maybe he'll have some other ideas.

>

> Regards,

>

> Mark

March 16, 2007

I take a muscle relaxer and that puts me right to sleep, they are out of you

system fast and don't leave you with that groggie feeling the next day, and

non-narcatic, non-addictive. Only side affect I get is dry mouth.

Staci

verkhoturye <radiomark@...> wrote:

I've been having a very difficult time getting any more than 3 or 4

hours of sleep every night. I've found that taking even half an

Ambien when I go to bed has generated a lot of the extra fatigue for

me, as in all day at work. Right now I'm so tired and worn out, feel

a lot of tension it my head. I think I don't sleep, in part due to

the constant flaring and body aches. I've tried real hard to stay

away from the pain meds, but find myself taking them more and more.

What do you do that helps you get a good night's sleep. I'm going to

see my family practice doc tomorrow. Maybe he'll have some other ideas.

Regards,

Mark

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March 19, 2007

Hello! My Dr. prescribed first Temazapam, which worked great! and then when

I started to get restless legs, he prescribed Clonazepam, which is even

better. No grogginess, no nothing. Just a good nights sleep. Please ask

your Doctor for something. A good nights sleep is very important with this

disease.

Ontario

[ ] Can't sleep

> I've been having a very difficult time getting any more than 3 or 4

> hours of sleep every night. I've found that taking even half an

> Ambien when I go to bed has generated a lot of the extra fatigue for

> me, as in all day at work. Right now I'm so tired and worn out, feel

> a lot of tension it my head. I think I don't sleep, in part due to

> the constant flaring and body aches. I've tried real hard to stay

> away from the pain meds, but find myself taking them more and more.

>

> What do you do that helps you get a good night's sleep. I'm going to

> see my family practice doc tomorrow. Maybe he'll have some other ideas.

>

> Regards,

>

> Mark

March 19, 2007

Hi Mark!

Boy, you sound just like me right now! For weeks I can't sleep... I

get to sleep, then am constanlty waking up, and then not being able

to go back to sleep. I too, have done the ambien thing, but it gives

me a sleep hangover the following day. I just can't get with it.

I'll be anxious to see what anyone else has to say. I havent changed

a thing about my bedtime...its the same as it always has been... I'm

just sore, and a flare up is eminant. I'm just trying to fight it,

as best I can.

Good luck!

Dawn

>

> I've been having a very difficult time getting any more than 3 or 4

> hours of sleep every night. I've found that taking even half an

> Ambien when I go to bed has generated a lot of the extra fatigue for

> me, as in all day at work. Right now I'm so tired and worn out,

feel

> a lot of tension it my head. I think I don't sleep, in part due to

> the constant flaring and body aches. I've tried real hard to stay

> away from the pain meds, but find myself taking them more and more.

>

> What do you do that helps you get a good night's sleep. I'm going

to

> see my family practice doc tomorrow. Maybe he'll have some other

ideas.

>

> Regards,

>

> Mark

>

July 7, 2007

I'm not quite sure what is goin on here, maybe you guys can help me out. When

my Mom and I were on Synthroid we were tired all the time and my Mom suffered

from Insomnia then too. When we switched to armour and thought what we found

were good doses (My Mom 3 grains armour) and me (4 grains armour) we would

feel awake durring the day but then at night we would get sleepy and sleep a

full like 9 hours. Lately, however, we both haven't been able to sleep. We have

been waking up around 8:00 am and it is now about 3:00 am and can't for the

life of us fall asleep ... this has been a pattern for about a week now. Neither

of us feel hypEr at all. I have heard people here say that sleeping problems

can be thyroid related, is that what this is? Any input would be great!

zzzZZZZZZZZ

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July 7, 2007

Gracia-

Yes I split up my dose 2 grains in the am and then 2 in like the afternoon.

My Mom actually splits her doses up into 3. Maybe we'll experiment with

iodine? The adrenal support is such a struggle to get ... maybe we'll have that

perserverence sometime soon :-)

I don't know. Enough Armour really helps me sleep. Do you split the dose

between morning and afternoon? maybe that would help. Peeps report better sleep

with iodine too. When I needed HC/adrenal support I was tired but wired and

couldn't sleep.

Gracia

I'm not quite sure what is goin on here, maybe you guys can help me out. When

my Mom and I were on Synthroid we were tired all the time and my Mom suffered

from Insomnia then too. When we switched to armour and thought what we found

were good doses (My Mom 3 grains armour) and me (4 grains armour) we would

feel awake durring the day but then at night we would get sleepy and sleep a

full like 9 hours. Lately, however, we both haven't been able to sleep. We

have

been waking up around 8:00 am and it is now about 3:00 am and can't for the

life of us fall asleep ... this has been a pattern for about a week now.

Neither

of us feel hypEr at all. I have heard people here say that sleeping problems

can be thyroid related, is that what this is? Any input would be great!

zzzZZZZZZZZ

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July 7, 2007

My Mom and I tried taking all our meds in the morning and we were comatose by

the early evening. Anything causing anxiety or restlessness?? Hhmmm, I just

flew in here (Michigan to visit my family) about a week ago from NYC. I don't

know though, lol, I think it's more than that ... we're pretty chill people

around here.

:-)

In a message dated 7/7/2007 9:59:53 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

danosova@... writes:

Hi.

I had the same thing on Synthroid. Couldn't get sleep for the life of me!

Switched to Armour and sleep like a baby! I take it right when I wake up. I take

my full dose at one time. I go about my work and taking care of the kids until

I can get breakfast - I do the two hour thing.

Is it possible anything is going on this week or last that might be causing

some anxiety or restlessness?

le

Gracia <_mailto:circe%40gwi.net_ (mailto:circe@...) > wrote:

I don't know. Enough Armour really helps me sleep. Do you split the dose

between morning and afternoon? maybe that would help. Peeps report better sleep

with iodine too. When I needed HC/adrenal support I was tired but wired and

couldn't sleep.

Gracia

I'm not quite sure what is goin on here, maybe you guys can help me out. When

my Mom and I were on Synthroid we were tired all the time and my Mom suffered

from Insomnia then too. When we switched to armour and thought what we found

were good doses (My Mom 3 grains armour) and me (4 grains armour) we would

feel awake durring the day but then at night we would get sleepy and sleep a

full like 9 hours. Lately, however, we both haven't been able to sleep. We

have

been waking up around 8:00 am and it is now about 3:00 am and can't for the

life of us fall asleep ... this has been a pattern for about a week now.

Neither

of us feel hypEr at all. I have heard people here say that sleeping problems

can be thyroid related, is that what this is? Any input would be great!

zzzZZZZZZZZ

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July 7, 2007

Chuck-

Maybe you're right? I guess it's just that past experiences of untreated

Hashi's have taught us we need x amount of sleep ( A LOT). It's not like we've

been tired durring the day? I just don't know.

,

You wrote:

> ... Lately, however, we both haven't been able to sleep.

> We have been waking up around 8:00 am and it is now about 3:00 am and can't

for the

> life of us fall asleep ... this has been a pattern for about a week now. ...

It's summer in the northern hemisphere.

Average need for sleep is over 9 hours in mid-winter. This time of year,

that drops to less than 7 hours. Many people report skipping an entire

night in early July wondering what happened. This might explain your

parallel experiences, unless, of course, you are south of the equator.

The Listers from Australia aren't up yet.

Chuck

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July 7, 2007

I don't know. Enough Armour really helps me sleep. Do you split the dose

between morning and afternoon? maybe that would help. Peeps report better

sleep with iodine too. When I needed HC/adrenal support I was tired but wired

and couldn't sleep.

Gracia

I'm not quite sure what is goin on here, maybe you guys can help me out. When

my Mom and I were on Synthroid we were tired all the time and my Mom suffered

from Insomnia then too. When we switched to armour and thought what we found

were good doses (My Mom 3 grains armour) and me (4 grains armour) we would

feel awake durring the day but then at night we would get sleepy and sleep a

full like 9 hours. Lately, however, we both haven't been able to sleep. We

have

been waking up around 8:00 am and it is now about 3:00 am and can't for the

life of us fall asleep ... this has been a pattern for about a week now.

Neither

of us feel hypEr at all. I have heard people here say that sleeping problems

can be thyroid related, is that what this is? Any input would be great!

zzzZZZZZZZZ

************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

July 7, 2007

Hi.

I had the same thing on Synthroid. Couldn't get sleep for the life of me!

Switched to Armour and sleep like a baby! I take it right when I wake up. I

take my full dose at one time. I go about my work and taking care of the kids

until I can get breakfast - I do the two hour thing.

Is it possible anything is going on this week or last that might be causing

some anxiety or restlessness?

le

Gracia <circe@...> wrote:

I don't know. Enough Armour really helps me sleep. Do you split the dose between

morning and afternoon? maybe that would help. Peeps report better sleep with

iodine too. When I needed HC/adrenal support I was tired but wired and couldn't

sleep.