Re: High Cholesterol & Weight Gain (Pat)

[Guest guest]

Hi Pat,

You are not being too nosey, many questions that everyone is asking

I too visited and revisited multiple times a year ago before

committing. But I did my homework and was comfortable with the

answers I was getting. Additionally, the conventional approach was

not working well and I tend to be open minded more towards a

holistic approach anyway.

I am pasting a portion of a prior post I made about a

couple months ago which should answer your questions; the only thing

that has changed is that now she has grown about 5 inches over the

past 13 months to 44 inches……She started GH around age 4. A

year ago, at age 5, she was 39 inches when her GH was tapered off

and has since grown about 3 1/2+ inches. Side affects, included an

initial period of a few months where she lost a little weight, but

the doctor convinced us to tough it out while her metabolism made

the transition to more good fats and protein diet. He likened it to

somewhat like eliminating an addictive drug. To quote the

book, " The disappearance of hyperinsulinism on the

low-carbohydrate diet removes one of the reasons why such patients

ate at all--their hypoglycemia. Generally, thin individuals are

driven to eat by low blood sugar, not by a general hunger " .

Another side affect was constipation. After a short period this

cleared up since some muscular aspect of the intestine recovered and

hormones were rebalanced. I know putting on weight is needed for

growth, but more importantly you first need to control insulin

levels with a lower carbohydrate diet. Then after a short period,

weight and muscle increase along with height. Much of this is

covered in the book.

She has encountered mostly reflux, H pylori, Candida and

constipation, which resolved fairly rapidly by our more natural

approach. The principle drugs she had been on were growth hormone

and Prilosec. As to the emotional side, the diet smoothed out

's blood sugar levels, so she no longer encounters rapid

swings that can occur with hypoglycemia along with the accompanying

moodiness and frustration issues.

Pat, I believe that at birth we are given an immune system that

should be fighting off the really tough problems our bodies

encounter. But handicapping it with a poor diet high in processed

carbohydrates only will make the situation worse and that is what I

believe has happened to our RSS kids. Boost the immune system and

let natures powers start to heal the digestive system, which then

allows the hormonal system to re-regulate.

Beth

> Hi Beth,

>

> I was wondering if you would elaborate on what kinds of problems

your

> daughter had before this diet, and how they were resolved?? You

stated:

>

> " She is no longer on any drugs, is feeling great, growing

extremely well and

> with " real " muscles, and doing much better emotionally. "

>

> I was wondering what kinds of drugs she was on, and for what??

What exactly

> does " growing extremely well " mean?? And how is she doing better

> emotionally?? What kinds of problems did she have and how has this

changed??

>

> Not trying to be nosy, just really interested in what types of

problems were

> resolved with only a change in diet.

>

> Pat (g-ma to , RSS, 3 yrs old, 23.5# (10.7kg), 32.8 "

(83.3cm),

> G-Tube)

[Guest guest]

Pat,

I can only base my suggestions on what has happened with my daughter

and the books and other resources I have at my disposal. It seems

your grandson's situation is indeed complicated beyond ours. But

still the underlying premise is the same. From what I have read, in

more complicated situations the movement towards lowering

carbohydrates is much slower and involves extra steps. It appears

that your grandson is a prime example of how a diet based solely on

carbohydrates has resulted in major complications.

As a first step would definitely buy Life Without Bread to gain a

better understanding of Dr. Lutz's interpretation of the hormone

system and the vast resources of documentation and graphs to support

his protocol along with his long experience with insulin resistant

related issues. This will not only familiarize your with his

approach but equally important to understand the history of high

carbohydrate diets and debunking clinical tests that are riddled

with conflicts of interest and manipulated facts. In my opinion

this is what has created the huge problems western society faces

today with insulin resistant diseases.

Next, I would see an alternative style doctor that focuses on

insulin resistance type issues, or if that is not possible do at

least a telephone consult. The reason why I recommend alternative

doctors is that from my experience they know far more about

nutrition than most conventional doctors. Most conventional doctors

only have a few hours nutritional training in med school.

I would recommend mine but at the moment he is not seeing new

patients since he is conducting clinical tests that he plans on

publishing in then near future hopefully. I think an even better

idea is to see the doctor that first got me interested in this whole

approach. His name is Cowan MD, and lives in San Francisco

(). I met him a couple years ago when he lectured at

my other child's Waldorf School. He is considered to be the

" guru " on this approach, but because he was located far away

at that time it was not possible for us to travel.

Instead he recommended our doctor as an option along with one other,

Ron Schmid ND of Middleburry, CT (). Last time I

checked Cowan charged around $200 for an initial consultation. I

just remembered that in the book Cowan just published, " Fourfold

Path to Healing " , he devotes a chapter to asthma and another to

reflux related issues. This is a great book and it compliments

Lutz's book, but it is more technical and discusses treatment

modalities in greater detail.

I think once you have read the book then you will be better prepared

to ask me more questions that I can perhaps help with. Please

understand I do not want to try to play doctor, but I can give you

general ideas to consider. I hope this will at least get you

started in the right direction.

Beth

> Hi Beth,

>

> Thanks for responding. condition seems to be more

complicated than

> your daughter. He is continually g-tube fed, and suffers from an

oral

> aversion, and severe hypo-g. Depending on activity levels,

's BS can

> drop 30-40 points within 30 minutes off feeds. His is an

asthmatic, with RAD

> and severe scarring of the lungs from an RSV infection. He takes

Singulair

> for the asthma, and does nebulizer treatments to help keep his

lungs open.

> He is on Zantac and Prevacid for reflux. He's had several severe

ear

> infections, and just had tubes placed yesterday.

>

> He recently started accepting enough Stage 2 baby foods to lower

his pump

> feed rates for the first time, but most " other " foods or textures

aren't

> acceptable to him. He's never felt " hunger " as far as we can tell.

He eats

> because he's been conditioned to do so, but he only eats what he

wants.

> There is no forcing " correct " foods for any oral feeding regimen

down him.

> If he doesn't want it, it won't go in his mouth, no matter how

much you try.

>

> I am very interested in introducing to healthier, more

diabetic-type

> foods because he's insulin resistant, and with the back up of the

g-tube, we

> have time to work with him. Time to shape his tastes towards foods

that

> would be healthier for him in the long run. But I don't understand

how this

> food regimen would work for him. He eats NO meats whatsoever, NO

veggies

> unless pureed, same for fruits. As far as table food, he'll only

do those

> things that have certain textures, and those are mainly carbs,

French fries,

> White bread (no whole grains)Cheerios, Fruit Loops, crackers,

chips. He has

> SID so there are numerous textures that he won't touch (meaning

they won't

> make it into his mouth either), or that make him gag.

>

> What would your suggestions be?

>

> Pat (g-ma to , RSS, 3 yrs old, 23.5# (10.7kg), 32.8 "

(83.3cm),

> G-Tube)

[Guest guest]

Pat,

I just remembered I left something out of my last post and perhaps

you already read these quotes from Life Without Bread. In

's situation I believe the following paragraphs apply

directly to his lack of interest in anything other than

carbohydrates.

" The very thin carbohydrate eater usually has very little muscle

with a very slight bone structure. These people tend to burn the

excess energy from overeating of carbohydrates, instead of storing

it into adipose tissue as in the case in the obese/overweight body

type " .

" On the surface, this burning of energy would seem a good thing,

and very thin people often have an enhanced energy profile. This is

only true, however, if a constant supply of carbohydrates is

available. The thin carbohydrate eater cannot afford to even delay

a meal. Metabolically, they are probably not too different than the

overweight carbohydrate eater. Thin people will often experience

low blood sugar episodes because they are still faced with the

fundamental problem associated with eating too many carbohydrates:

insulin resistance and hyperinsulinemia " .

" There is no available fat metabolism to provide the thin

carbohydrate eater with a balance of energy. Thus carbohydrates

constitute the only source of energy for them. As with overweight

high-carbohydrate eaters, fat metabolism is restricted. Because fat

supplies the majority of energy reserves in humans, the thin

carbohydrate eaters must continually eat in order to satisfy the

body's energy requirements " .

" The low-carbohydrate program augments the anabolic processes

that contribute to increased body mass in the form of bone density,

muscle, and connective tissue. But the underweight person must be

diligent. It takes some time to see the benefit of weight gain.

Usually thin people experience a loss of weight during the first few

months on the diet. This eventually gives way to increased body

mass as the production of GROWTH HORMONE eventually increases, and

nutrients needed to build tissue (fat and protein) are consumed.

Over a long period of time, from one to two years, they will

eventually reach a larger body mass compared to when they began the

low carbohydrate program. The new weight, however, will be in all

the right places. "

Beth

>

> Pat,

>

> I can only base my suggestions on what has happened with my

daughter

> and the books and other resources I have at my disposal. It seems

> your grandson's situation is indeed complicated beyond ours. But

> still the underlying premise is the same. From what I have read,

in

> more complicated situations the movement towards lowering

> carbohydrates is much slower and involves extra steps. It appears

> that your grandson is a prime example of how a diet based solely

on

> carbohydrates has resulted in major complications.

>

> As a first step would definitely buy Life Without Bread to gain a

> better understanding of Dr. Lutz's interpretation of the hormone

> system and the vast resources of documentation and graphs to

support

> his protocol along with his long experience with insulin resistant

> related issues. This will not only familiarize your with his

> approach but equally important to understand the history of high

> carbohydrate diets and debunking clinical tests that are riddled

> with conflicts of interest and manipulated facts. In my opinion

> this is what has created the huge problems western society faces

> today with insulin resistant diseases.

>

> Next, I would see an alternative style doctor that focuses on

> insulin resistance type issues, or if that is not possible do at

> least a telephone consult. The reason why I recommend alternative

> doctors is that from my experience they know far more about

> nutrition than most conventional doctors. Most conventional

doctors

> only have a few hours nutritional training in med school.

>

> I would recommend mine but at the moment he is not seeing new

> patients since he is conducting clinical tests that he plans on

> publishing in then near future hopefully. I think an even better

> idea is to see the doctor that first got me interested in this

whole

> approach. His name is Cowan MD, and lives in San Francisco

> (). I met him a couple years ago when he lectured at

> my other child's Waldorf School. He is considered to be the

> " guru " on this approach, but because he was located far away

> at that time it was not possible for us to travel.

>

> Instead he recommended our doctor as an option along with one

other,

> Ron Schmid ND of Middleburry, CT (). Last time I

> checked Cowan charged around $200 for an initial consultation. I

> just remembered that in the book Cowan just published, " Fourfold

> Path to Healing " , he devotes a chapter to asthma and another to

> reflux related issues. This is a great book and it compliments

> Lutz's book, but it is more technical and discusses treatment

> modalities in greater detail.

>

> I think once you have read the book then you will be better

prepared

> to ask me more questions that I can perhaps help with. Please

> understand I do not want to try to play doctor, but I can give you

> general ideas to consider. I hope this will at least get you

> started in the right direction.

>

> Beth

[Guest guest]

Pat

Have you tried the gerber 2 chicken? It has 100 cals and 8 gm protein

in 2.5 oz. smells and tastes awful, but Naomi eats it mixed with

things she likes such as banana or sweet potato puree and she cant

tell its there. My daughter has severe texture issues as well, she is

not tube fed but gags on lumps. She licks crackers pretzels if they

are salty, she only likes the salt on them. It She is also eating

cheese sauce and smashed avocado now. Does like cheese

products? Naomi does lick on chicken and fish (from our plate), she

actually comes over to try our food when we eat, but only for the

salty/spicy gravy on them she cant eat the meat yet.

Sabina mother of Naomi now at 17.5 lbs 27 inches almost 27 months

Sabina mother of Naomi

> Hillary!! Thanks for the input. WHAT do you eat for oral

proteins??? Or what

> suppliments do you take?? Protein is a necessity, especially with B

on GHT,

> but other than what he gets in his formula, there's none in his

diet. Oh nix

> that... I do get him to eat the occasional egg yolk blended into

his Stage 2

> foods.

>

> Thanks again!

> Pat (g-ma to , RSS, 3 yrs old, 23.5# (10.7kg), 32.8 "

(83.3cm),

> G-Tube)