Guest guest Posted January 27, 2005 Report Share Posted January 27, 2005 Hi Marcy, I have a little different twist on muscle camps. I agree that an electrolyte imbalance is the cause but I also consider using something that has been successful in our family, since both my husband I get cramps periodically. Our doctor recommended that we take ½ teaspoon of Celtic Sea Salt with lemon juice from a whole lemon mixed in 6 ounces of filtered water. Sip this throughout the day and it should readjust your electrolytes. I found this to be a great sports drink. You would think that drinking salt you would end up being thirsty but exactly the opposite is true. I am always refreshed and my mouth has more saliva, seems strange but it works. You can not use regular table salt; it needs to be the kind of rock salt that looks grey in color. In a short while I will post information about real sea salt and its many benefits especially when compared to denatured table salt. Beth > Hi Marcy, > > This was an earlier post that I saved because I thought might need > it one day. Hope this helps! > > Pat (g-ma to , RSS, 3 yrs old, 23.5# (10.7kg), 32.8 " (83.3cm), > G-Tube) > > Hi Shirley > > This is just something to try the next time Dakota gets a let cramp. Try > letting him drink 1/2 cup of tonic water. It contains quinine sulfate,, > which in this concentration is not harmful. If this does the trick, it is > not most likely hypo-glycemia but an eloctrolyte imbalance that causes the > surface tension of the muscles to seize up a little. It is not really > dangerous if it happens only occasionally, but the quinine eases the surface > tension. To keep it from happening, let him have some pedialyte every day, > (the frozen pops are not bad)to make sure his electrolytes are getting > balanced. > The other thing to do is to make sure he doesn't have a potassium or calcium > deficiency, a doc can run an electrolyte panel during his next blood work. > The only thing that would happen if he did, would be to give him a > supplement. One imbalance in an electrolytic mineral can cause all of the > rest to fall off kilter, it isn't common, but with kids who don't eat well, > or have our problems, it > certainly wouldn't suprise me. The women in my family all have potassium > deficiencies, and we grew up with leg cramp medicine which is quinine > sulfate in pill form. But we found that the tonic water had a lower > concentration, got into our blood stream faster, worked better, and the doc > actually thought it was great! > > Anyway, just this Mom's thoughts, > > Have a great Day! > > hugs, > > AmyMarie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2005 Report Share Posted January 28, 2005 Hi Beth, Isn't this just a home made form of Gator Aide? After all wasn't Gator Aide developed by the U of Fla trainer who noticed his football players were getting a lot of leg cramps on hot days so he mixed up a batch of sweetened, flavored salt water. Ken M > > Hi Marcy, > > > > This was an earlier post that I saved because I thought > might need > > it one day. Hope this helps! > > > > Pat (g-ma to , RSS, 3 yrs old, 23.5# (10.7kg), 32.8 " > (83.3cm), > > G-Tube) > > > > Hi Shirley > > > > This is just something to try the next time Dakota gets a let > cramp. Try > > letting him drink 1/2 cup of tonic water. It contains quinine > sulfate,, > > which in this concentration is not harmful. If this does the > trick, it is > > not most likely hypo-glycemia but an eloctrolyte imbalance that > causes the > > surface tension of the muscles to seize up a little. It is not > really > > dangerous if it happens only occasionally, but the quinine eases > the surface > > tension. To keep it from happening, let him have some pedialyte > every day, > > (the frozen pops are not bad)to make sure his electrolytes are > getting > > balanced. > > The other thing to do is to make sure he doesn't have a potassium > or calcium > > deficiency, a doc can run an electrolyte panel during his next > blood work. > > The only thing that would happen if he did, would be to give him a > > supplement. One imbalance in an electrolytic mineral can cause all > of the > > rest to fall off kilter, it isn't common, but with kids who don't > eat well, > > or have our problems, it > > certainly wouldn't suprise me. The women in my family all have > potassium > > deficiencies, and we grew up with leg cramp medicine which is > quinine > > sulfate in pill form. But we found that the tonic water had a lower > > concentration, got into our blood stream faster, worked better, > and the doc > > actually thought it was great! > > > > Anyway, just this Mom's thoughts, > > > > Have a great Day! > > > > hugs, > > > > AmyMarie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2005 Report Share Posted January 28, 2005 Hi Ken, Actually many sources I feel are very reputable are not overly fond of Gator Aide. This is because most of its ingredients are not really " natural " or overly processed and as a result is not as well assimilated by the body. If you just compared Gator Aide to other commercial products I am sure it would be better. Perhaps the best example is my husband's experience. He is (was) an excellent athlete, and up until last year always drank Gator Aide. Upon the advice of our doctor he switched to Celtic Sea Salt with lemon and was amazed at his greater endurance level, was not nearly as thirsty, and just felt refreshed. He likes it so much that he sips it like does throughout the day. Actually, this was one of the ways we bribed her into initially taking it because her daddy, who she worships, was drinking it. I guess I will keep him around for awhile longer. Beth > > > Hi Marcy, > > > > > > This was an earlier post that I saved because I thought > > might need > > > it one day. Hope this helps! > > > > > > Pat (g-ma to , RSS, 3 yrs old, 23.5# (10.7kg), 32.8 " > > (83.3cm), > > > G-Tube) > > > > > > Hi Shirley > > > > > > This is just something to try the next time Dakota gets a let > > cramp. Try > > > letting him drink 1/2 cup of tonic water. It contains quinine > > sulfate,, > > > which in this concentration is not harmful. If this does the > > trick, it is > > > not most likely hypo-glycemia but an eloctrolyte imbalance that > > causes the > > > surface tension of the muscles to seize up a little. It is not > > really > > > dangerous if it happens only occasionally, but the quinine eases > > the surface > > > tension. To keep it from happening, let him have some pedialyte > > every day, > > > (the frozen pops are not bad)to make sure his electrolytes are > > getting > > > balanced. > > > The other thing to do is to make sure he doesn't have a potassium > > or calcium > > > deficiency, a doc can run an electrolyte panel during his next > > blood work. > > > The only thing that would happen if he did, would be to give him a > > > supplement. One imbalance in an electrolytic mineral can cause > all > > of the > > > rest to fall off kilter, it isn't common, but with kids who don't > > eat well, > > > or have our problems, it > > > certainly wouldn't suprise me. The women in my family all have > > potassium > > > deficiencies, and we grew up with leg cramp medicine which is > > quinine > > > sulfate in pill form. But we found that the tonic water had a > lower > > > concentration, got into our blood stream faster, worked better, > > and the doc > > > actually thought it was great! > > > > > > Anyway, just this Mom's thoughts, > > > > > > Have a great Day! > > > > > > hugs, > > > > > > AmyMarie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2005 Report Share Posted January 28, 2005 Hi Beth, I am not sure about the endurance part but I do understand the less thirsty part. Salt causes your body to retain water. So if you reatin water, you will be less thirsty. My only concern is that one does not make the level of salt too great, afterall we all know how sick one can become from drinking sea water. That is because, sea water is too salty, never mind the ever present oil slick on the surface. Ken M > > > > Hi Marcy, > > > > > > > > This was an earlier post that I saved because I thought > > > > might need > > > > it one day. Hope this helps! > > > > > > > > Pat (g-ma to , RSS, 3 yrs old, 23.5# (10.7kg), 32.8 " > > > (83.3cm), > > > > G-Tube) > > > > > > > > Hi Shirley > > > > > > > > This is just something to try the next time Dakota gets a let > > > cramp. Try > > > > letting him drink 1/2 cup of tonic water. It contains quinine > > > sulfate,, > > > > which in this concentration is not harmful. If this does the > > > trick, it is > > > > not most likely hypo-glycemia but an eloctrolyte imbalance > that > > > causes the > > > > surface tension of the muscles to seize up a little. It is not > > > really > > > > dangerous if it happens only occasionally, but the quinine > eases > > > the surface > > > > tension. To keep it from happening, let him have some > pedialyte > > > every day, > > > > (the frozen pops are not bad)to make sure his electrolytes are > > > getting > > > > balanced. > > > > The other thing to do is to make sure he doesn't have a > potassium > > > or calcium > > > > deficiency, a doc can run an electrolyte panel during his next > > > blood work. > > > > The only thing that would happen if he did, would be to give > him a > > > > supplement. One imbalance in an electrolytic mineral can cause > > all > > > of the > > > > rest to fall off kilter, it isn't common, but with kids who > don't > > > eat well, > > > > or have our problems, it > > > > certainly wouldn't suprise me. The women in my family all have > > > potassium > > > > deficiencies, and we grew up with leg cramp medicine which is > > > quinine > > > > sulfate in pill form. But we found that the tonic water had a > > lower > > > > concentration, got into our blood stream faster, worked > better, > > > and the doc > > > > actually thought it was great! > > > > > > > > Anyway, just this Mom's thoughts, > > > > > > > > Have a great Day! > > > > > > > > hugs, > > > > > > > > AmyMarie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2005 Report Share Posted January 28, 2005 Hi Ken, I am diverging slightly from your questions but I think maybe this will clear somethings up. It is my understanding based on our doctor's explanation, Celtic Sea Salt is very important for cell membrane permeability. The cell functions like a factory. In other words, for human cells to function properly fluids need to flow in and out of cells in an efficient manner. This accomplishes a number of things, one being the delivery system of nutrients (raw material) into the cell for energy, and the other, allows for waste products that build up in the cell to be excreted. Common salt on the other hand does not have most of the 80 minerals of the Celtic Sea Salt and cannot perform as well because these vital minerals are missing. As a result, cell permeability is less efficient and vital nutrients are not reaching inside the cell plus what does enter has a difficult time escaping as a waste product. Then waste builds up in the cell and slows down the function even further. A series of reactions, in particular enzymatic, are then not performed as efficiently, which can affect proper hormone regulation. Because most of foods eaten today are processed to death many vital nutrients are lacking. A ½ teaspoon of Celtic Sea Salt is not much, but it does help replacing many of those minerals the processed food lacks. As with sea water I would imagine if you drank enough then that it would not be good for the body. As to pollution, I may be wrong but this type of sea salt is mined from sea beds established well before pollution existed. Beth > > > > > Hi Marcy, > > > > > > > > > > This was an earlier post that I saved because I thought > > > > > > might need > > > > > it one day. Hope this helps! > > > > > > > > > > Pat (g-ma to , RSS, 3 yrs old, 23.5# (10.7kg), 32.8 " > > > > (83.3cm), > > > > > G-Tube) > > > > > > > > > > Hi Shirley > > > > > > > > > > This is just something to try the next time Dakota gets a let > > > > cramp. Try > > > > > letting him drink 1/2 cup of tonic water. It contains > quinine > > > > sulfate,, > > > > > which in this concentration is not harmful. If this does the > > > > trick, it is > > > > > not most likely hypo-glycemia but an eloctrolyte imbalance > > that > > > > causes the > > > > > surface tension of the muscles to seize up a little. It is > not > > > > really > > > > > dangerous if it happens only occasionally, but the quinine > > eases > > > > the surface > > > > > tension. To keep it from happening, let him have some > > pedialyte > > > > every day, > > > > > (the frozen pops are not bad)to make sure his electrolytes > are > > > > getting > > > > > balanced. > > > > > The other thing to do is to make sure he doesn't have a > > potassium > > > > or calcium > > > > > deficiency, a doc can run an electrolyte panel during his > next > > > > blood work. > > > > > The only thing that would happen if he did, would be to give > > him a > > > > > supplement. One imbalance in an electrolytic mineral can > cause > > > all > > > > of the > > > > > rest to fall off kilter, it isn't common, but with kids who > > don't > > > > eat well, > > > > > or have our problems, it > > > > > certainly wouldn't suprise me. The women in my family all > have > > > > potassium > > > > > deficiencies, and we grew up with leg cramp medicine which is > > > > quinine > > > > > sulfate in pill form. But we found that the tonic water had a > > > lower > > > > > concentration, got into our blood stream faster, worked > > better, > > > > and the doc > > > > > actually thought it was great! > > > > > > > > > > Anyway, just this Mom's thoughts, > > > > > > > > > > Have a great Day! > > > > > > > > > > hugs, > > > > > > > > > > AmyMarie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2005 Report Share Posted January 28, 2005 Hi Beth, Thanks for the explaination of Celtic Sea Salt with 80 minerals. Ken M > > > > > > Hi Marcy, > > > > > > > > > > > > This was an earlier post that I saved because I thought > > > > > > > > might need > > > > > > it one day. Hope this helps! > > > > > > > > > > > > Pat (g-ma to , RSS, 3 yrs old, 23.5# (10.7kg), > 32.8 " > > > > > (83.3cm), > > > > > > G-Tube) > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Shirley > > > > > > > > > > > > This is just something to try the next time Dakota gets a > let > > > > > cramp. Try > > > > > > letting him drink 1/2 cup of tonic water. It contains > > quinine > > > > > sulfate,, > > > > > > which in this concentration is not harmful. If this does > the > > > > > trick, it is > > > > > > not most likely hypo-glycemia but an eloctrolyte imbalance > > > that > > > > > causes the > > > > > > surface tension of the muscles to seize up a little. It is > > not > > > > > really > > > > > > dangerous if it happens only occasionally, but the quinine > > > eases > > > > > the surface > > > > > > tension. To keep it from happening, let him have some > > > pedialyte > > > > > every day, > > > > > > (the frozen pops are not bad)to make sure his electrolytes > > are > > > > > getting > > > > > > balanced. > > > > > > The other thing to do is to make sure he doesn't have a > > > potassium > > > > > or calcium > > > > > > deficiency, a doc can run an electrolyte panel during his > > next > > > > > blood work. > > > > > > The only thing that would happen if he did, would be to > give > > > him a > > > > > > supplement. One imbalance in an electrolytic mineral can > > cause > > > > all > > > > > of the > > > > > > rest to fall off kilter, it isn't common, but with kids > who > > > don't > > > > > eat well, > > > > > > or have our problems, it > > > > > > certainly wouldn't suprise me. The women in my family all > > have > > > > > potassium > > > > > > deficiencies, and we grew up with leg cramp medicine which > is > > > > > quinine > > > > > > sulfate in pill form. But we found that the tonic water > had a > > > > lower > > > > > > concentration, got into our blood stream faster, worked > > > better, > > > > > and the doc > > > > > > actually thought it was great! > > > > > > > > > > > > Anyway, just this Mom's thoughts, > > > > > > > > > > > > Have a great Day! > > > > > > > > > > > > hugs, > > > > > > > > > > > > AmyMarie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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