Guest guest Posted October 26, 2001 Report Share Posted October 26, 2001 Honestly, in all my research and reading and experiences, the BPD and the DS are NOT lightyears apart. The DS is a *modification* to the original BPD. It's a very complex modification to perform surgically. I can understand a surgeon looking at the Scopinaro BPD and at the BPD/DS and deciding that the differences between them are not worth the cost-benefit difference to the surgeon *or* to the patient. Patients may feel differently. They may not. Admittedly, I have a bias. I don't like to see the BPD put down or surgeons or patients who feel that the DS is automatically and comprehensively superior to the BPD. They are VERY similar surgeries with very similar average outcomes. >>>>> Sharon: I'm glad you spoke out and told about your experience with the BPD. Obviously, it is a *modification* meant to improve various *possible* side effects and post-op experiences of the BPD surgery. It is not a radically different surgery. Basically the stomach portion was redesigned and a section of duodenum remained intact before the BPD occurs. Then, the common channel was lengthened (in most cases more than 50 cm) to maximize post-op, long term absorption. Certainly, not everyone would experience any or all of these negative effects of the DS. Same goes for the DS. I obviously have a bias for the DS since I had such an outstanding outcome -- virtually no negative side effects (other than a few episodes of bad gas --- one of which lately involved my IBS/Spastic colon more than the actual surgery, I suspect). I am able to eat whatever I want and really haven't had terrible side effects except early post-op and with some artificially flavored/preserved foods (which I try to eat sparingly anyway). However, statistically speaking, studies have shown that the traditional BPD carried more of a nutritional risk. This is not to say that the DS does not involve possible nutritional deficiencies. I know that you experienced a few of these (and you may well have experienced them had you had the DS, too). Of course, I don't think patients should choose merely based on individual testimonies -- Although our experiences are totally valid and meaningful, the surgeons who have spoken out on the DS being preferable are basing their statements on studies that have been done. It's not just an issue of patient preference. I don't think their purpose is to bad mouth the BPD or say it is a 'bad' surgery. They are saying that statistics have shown (and these are based on a wide variety of patient experiences) that the DS does indeed involve notable improvements over the BPD. The concern voiced here is that the surgeons who are making such decisions (stating that the BPD doesn't really have many advantagse over the DS and should be performed instead since the DS involves a higher surgical complexity) are doing so in spite of the statistics and studies that have been done comparing the BPD and DS. Now, if there are new studies out there or new information that can and do back up their claims that there is little difference, then I think they have the responsibility to make these public and perhaps a re-evaluation of the importance of the DS improvements vis a vis the complexity of the surgery can occur. To say that patients 'overvalue the pyloric valve' or that it doesn't always 'work' without substantiating these statements (especially in light of documented studies that state otherwise) is rather perplexing and misleading, IMHO. Once again, it makes it sound like DS is simply a matter of 'patient preference' when in fact the surgical community has well documented the benefits of the DS and have unequivocally stated that it would be preferred for various reasons. This preference does not mean that the BPD is a bad surgery but that the DS was designed to address certain nutritional deficiences and side effects that many post-op BPDers experienced. STudies conducted to compare the two surgeries have shown that, overall, the changes HAVE actually resulted in a lessening of such side effects and deficiencies. This is not to say that the DS is totally 'risk free' or that Dsers won't experience negative side effects, of course. all the best, lap ds with gallbladder removal January 25, 2001 Dr. gagner/Mt. Sinai/NYC nine months post-op and still feelin' fabu! preop: 307 lbs/bmi 45 now: 207 (yipee!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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