Re:Debbie, PJ, medications with illegals.

[Guest guest]

Gelatin is usually under the brand Knox here, it's just plain gelatin at the grocery store.  It's like jello but nothing added.  You add fruit juice and honey to it to make the gelatin.

 

After the intro, I would sometimes take all the chicken out of the soup and make salad with homemade mayo or avocado or eat it with a slice of cheese.  Strain everything out of the soup and drink the broth or eat the broth with pureed carrots.

 

Roasted whole chickens and livers.  Whole cuts of meats like pot roast or pork roast seemed to go better than ground meat.  Turkey breast, lamb, venison and broiled fish are good.

 

Yellow squash is young springtime squash.  There's no tough shell to scoop out.  Zucchini and yellow squash are often found together.  Zucchini is another good alternative to steam or pan fry.  Make sure everything is peeled and deseeded although I never peeled the yellow squash.

 

Butternut, acorn, pumpkin are winter squashes and have the hard shell and there are several ways to cook them.  I cut them in half, scoop out the seeds and put them cut-side down into a pan with a little water in it.  Then cook it until the outer shell is easily pierced.  Scoop everything out into a bowl with some butter and honey or honey/yellow mustard.  There are recipes for butternut squash fries on pecanbread.com as well as stages and alternative intro diet foods to maybe open up your options.  Some do very well on the stages.  Others do not--I couldn't do the stage 1 foods at all to start with but I can now.  I ate a lot of baby lima beans cooked until soft, carrots cooked until soft and yellow squash.  Beans are considered advanced but I think since they are not high fiber or high sugar, I could tolerate them.

 

Pretty much, young and tender fruits and vegetables *seem* to go over with most people.  Even very early young green peas (if you like them) may work for you.

 

I don't know about the calcium citrate.  I'm not 100% on the eggs so maybe if you try different methods of cooking them--like start with boiled and see if that's good for you  Wait awhile on fried.  Avoid OJ in the mornings also.  Maybe someone can confirm that.  If you drink coffee, dilute it so it's very weak right now.

 

Main thing is you can't do intro over five days and you'll need more than broth.  I would load up on tender meats if you can't do vegetables/fruits right now.  Lots of honey and yogurt as tolerated.  Same with aged cheddar. 

 

Btw, no question is dumb except the one not asked ;-).  I watched Foodnetwork ALL the time when I first started because I didn't have a clue.  Don't worry, you'll have your method down in no time; what works for you.

 

Debbie 41 cd

 

 

 

Hi debbie and PJ, Thanks for replys,

 

Il cut out the almoiud flour for sure so sandwich bread will have to into freezer and cinnamonn cookies can go to the dog!!

 

I also think your right about eggs maybe il cut them out for a while too, As im a 26 yr old male who hasnt a clue bout cooking im new to all this scd type food. Can you tell me what gelatin is as im not familiar with it the same goes for butternut squash. i have avacados just waiting on them to go ripe. And the calcium citrate is that a supplement like what im taking in the freeda vitamins?

 

I always have chicken soup in stock at home as my mother makes a big pot and freezes it in seperate containers (shes pretty much doing most my cooking while im unwell) , she still makes it the usual way taking out the onion,parsley and celery and putting back in the purred carrots to the broth. But is the broth alone from the chicken soup enough or can i have it another way or how do you have it, do you drink it? and i do have apple cider vinegar at home too. Sorry for these questions must sound stupid to you guys but im only wk 3 on scd i suppose this is when i learn everything

 

Thanks again Mark

To: BTVC-SCD

Sent: Tue, May 18, 2010 3:52:45 AMSubject: Re: Re: medications with illegals. 

Isn't there something in the BTVC book about omitting eggs until you see improvement with 'd'?  It is too early with almond flour because it's considered advanced but have you tried pecan butter?  I know it's hard in the beginning to find foods you can tolerate.

 

Dripped yogurt is yogurt cheese.  A lot of us use it when we can't get the dry curd cottage cheese.Can you eat gelatin with juice (love that you have your own apple and grape juice), frenched green beans, butternut or yellow squash, pumpkin pie filling, avocado, cheese crackers (just take 1t. grated cheddar, pat it down on a hot, non-stick pan on the stove and let it melt until it's all crispy, you could add dried basil sprinkled on top for more flavor to have with your sandwich). 

 

Hope you feel better soon and get over the die-off/flare so you can enjoy the wedding.

 

Debbie 41 cd

On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 8:00 PM, mark lambert <lambo042002@ yahoo.com> wrote:

 

Im on a freeda scd legal calcium vitamin thats all, I havent heard of calcium citrate??,

 

As for dccc i cant get that in ireland but i did by a " Donvier " yogurt chhese maker which strains the yogurt and turns it into a cheese spread so dont know if this substitutes dccc or not? 

 

I have the chicken soup every day for lunch, eggs in the morning, have a yogurt,bananna and honey smoothie each day too and as for meats i differ each day with roast or boiled chicken with purred carrrots, salmon, burger and turkey patties with cheese spread i make topped with chedder cheese and a cooked tomatoe aswell as sandwich bread i use as buns (contains almound flour). I juice my own grapes and apples and dilute with half water, i make ginger tea everyday. I did make cinnamonn cookies once which would of also had almound flour so maybe i should cut that out.

Thanks Mark

From: smdsmom2008 <smdsmom2008@ yahoo.com>

To: BTVC-SCD@yahoogroup s.comSent: Tue, May 18, 2010 1:14:59 AM

Subject: Re: medications with illegals.

 

Have you tried legal calcium citrate and the dry curd cottage cheese? I would be trying lots of healthy bone broth soups and eating easy to digest foods.Hopefully things will improve by the wedding. But that is a one time in a million occasion which you should enjoy and be part of. I think every one here would agree to doing what you need to do to get through that day... even living on soup for a day or two before!!

So please everyone chime in with suggestions to get through this wedding :)PJ

> > >> > > Hi friends> > > I've asked this question before, and didn't recieve any answer (that I'm aware of)> > > I've been on the SCD diet for several months now, and have seen marked results. The only problem is that I'm taking meds like Claversal, which is similar to lialda, and it has illegals like guar gum or some kind of starch or other, that is considered illegal. I'm not really sure what to do, because I'm afraid of taking no medication, and yet it seems rather redundant to be on a diet, and do things contrary to the principles of the diet, at the same time.

> > > > > > Please, advice would be well appreciated. As y'all know, doctors aren't exactly supportive of the idea that our disease is food related/// > > > > > > Thanks

> > > > > > How will I know if I recieve a response to this???> > > > > > Emad> > >> >>

[Guest guest]

You can puree the chicken and add it back into the soup for a nice thick soup.

" Now " brand makes a calcium citrate powder that you can mix with juice or water.

The Freeda vitamins are fine, but they contain magnesium ( we all need that too

). Sometimes magnesium can act as a laxative, so I used a little of the calcium

magnesium powder as well to help with that. Don't use too much though.

PJ

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> >> > > > I've asked this question before, and didn't recieve any answer (that

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> >> > > > I've been on the SCD diet for several months now, and have seen

> >> marked results. The only problem is that I'm taking meds like Claversal,

> >> which is similar to lialda, and it has illegals like guar gum or some kind

> >> of starch or other, that is considered illegal. I'm not really sure what to

> >> do, because I'm afraid of taking no medication, and yet it seems rather

> >> redundant to be on a diet, and do things contrary to the principles of the

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> >> > > > Please, advice would be well appreciated. As y'all know, doctors

> >> aren't exactly supportive of the idea that our disease is food related///

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> >> > > > Thanks

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> >> > > > How will I know if I recieve a response to this???

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> >> > > > Emad

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[Guest guest]

Hi Mark

Even those of us who have been cooking for a long time find, on starting the

diet, that we have a large learning curve - we are essentially learning a whole

new way of cooking. Its daunting at the beginning, but we get through.

To answer some of your questions:

Gelatin: I'm in the UK, and use Dr Oetker brand gelatin. I find this in the

baking section of my supermarket (Waitrose), and other supermarkets might carry

other brands. Look at the ingredients - the gelatin should be from a meat

source (vegetable gelatin is also sold for vegetarians, but it is illegal for

us). The instructions are on the box, and it is very easy to use. It comes in

powder or sheets.

Butternut squash: here is a link to pictures of butternut squash.

http://www.google.co.uk/images?hl=en & source=imghp & q=butternut+squash & btnG=Search\

+Images & gbv=2 & aq=f & aqi=g7g-m1 & aql= & oq= & gs_rfai=

There are different types of squash, and I think all of them are SCD-legal. You

can ask someone at your local supermarket or greengrocer whether they carry

squash (they might have it only at a certain time of year.

Here are 2 great (and easy) recipes for squash:

Butternut squash soup

Serves 4

50 g butter

1 x 1 kg butternut squash, peeled, seeded and cut into 1.5 cm cubes

2 tbsp white wine

rind of Parmesan, about 50 g

1 litre Chicken stock

salt and freshly ground black pepper

To serve (optional)

knob of butter

1 tbsp olive oil

100 g fresh ceps (mushrooms)

handful of Parmesan shavings

Heat the 50 g of butter in a large pan until melted. Add the butternut squash

and lightly sauté over a low heat, stirring constantly to prevent sticking, for

about 10 minutes. It should be soft but not coloured.

Pour in the wine and allow it to bubble and reduce until completely evaporated.

Cover with a lid and cook for 8–10 minutes, until the butternut squash is

completely tender. Add the Parmesan rind and all but 200 ml of the chicken stock

to the pan and return to the boil. Once boiling, reduce the heat and cook for a

further 5 minutes. Remove and discard the Parmesan rind.

Remove the soup from the heat and allow to cool a little before transferring it

to a blender or food processor. Whiz until smooth, then pass through a

& #64257;ne sieve. If necessary, correct the consistency with a little more

chicken stock. Check the seasoning.

If you are serving the soup with the sautéed ceps, heat the butter and olive oil

in a frying pan over a medium heat. Add the ceps and cook for 2–3 minutes, until

golden. Season to taste. Reheat the soup if necessary, then ladle into

individual bowls. Add the sautéed ceps and a few Parmesan shavings.

Butternut Squash Muffins

400g butternut squash, peeled, deseeded and roughly chopped

300g honey (or less)

4 large eggs

300-400g almond flour, as needed

2 tspns baking soda

1tspn ground cinnamon

zest and juice of 1 lemon and/or orange

175ml extra virgin olive oil (or other vegetable oil) or 175ml butter, or a mix

of the two

Preheat oven to 180C/350F/gas 4. Prepare muffin tins with paper liners.

Whiz squash in food processor until finely chopped. Add eggs and honey and mix.

Add almond flour, baking soda and cinnamon, and mix. Melt butter, pour in, and

mix. Add the flavourings of your choice (see Note below). Add zest and juice

of citrus fruit and mix well just before pouring into the muffin moulds.

Bake for 25 minutes, or until baked.

Makes about 2 dozen muffins, which freeze very well.

Note:

To make them more tender, I also add grated courgettes and/or apples.

For flavour, I use some of the following combinations:

- apple, cinnamon, walnut, raisin, vanilla extract or 1 vanilla bean

- fig, prunes, allspice, clove, cinnamon, ground ginger, walnuts, apple, vanilla

or almond extract or 1 vanilla bean

- carrot, courgette, apple, walnuts, raisins, vanilla extract or 1 vanilla bean

Shopping notes:

I have found honey to be least expensive at Holland & Barrett (907g for about

£4). Almond flour is prohibitively expensive purchased at supermarkets;

instead, it can be purchased least dearly at ethnic supermarkets. The prices

fluctuate according to the market. It can be packaged in 1kg parcels in ziploc

bags and frozen to keep it fresh for long periods of time.

Hope you find some of this helpful, and that it gets you feeling better,

Licia

colitis/SCD feb 2006

no meds since july 2006

> I also think your right about eggs maybe il cut them out for a while too, As

im a 26 yr old male who hasnt a clue bout cooking im new to all this scd

type food. Can you tell me what gelatin is as im not familiar with it the same

goes for butternut squash. i have avacados just waiting on them to go ripe. And

the calcium citrate is that a supplement like what im taking in the freeda

vitamins?

>

> I always have chicken soup in stock at home as my mother makes a big pot and

freezes it in seperate containers (shes pretty much doing most my cooking while

im unwell) , she still makes it the usual way taking out the onion,parsley and

celery and putting back in the purred carrots to the broth. But is the broth

alone from the chicken soup enough or can i have it another way or how do you

have it, do you drink it? and i do have apple cider vinegar at home too. Sorry

for these questions must sound stupid to you guys but im only wk 3 on scd i

suppose this is when i learn everything

>

> Thanks again Mark

>

[Guest guest]

I like Nature's Way Calcium. It's a mix of citrate, carbonate, and malate. It's

all calcium, no extra vitamins and minerals. They are also very easy to swallow

capsules.

http://www.vitacost.com/Natures-Way-Calcium-Citrate-Complex

Holly

Crohn's

SCD 12/01/08

>

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> You can puree the chicken and add it back into the soup for a nice thick soup.

> " Now " brand makes a calcium citrate powder that you can mix with juice or

water. The Freeda vitamins are fine, but they contain magnesium ( we all need

that too ). Sometimes magnesium can act as a laxative, so I used a little of the

calcium magnesium powder as well to help with that. Don't use too much though.

>

> PJ