Re: ADD?

[Guest guest]

Hi Ken,

My daughter has ADD. She has NO hyperactivity issueas at all.

Therefore, she was overlooked at school because she was not causing

any trouble and didn't draw any attention to herself. I first

started noticing things at home and then her first grade teacher

started picking up on it as well. We really didn't know what was

going on and we tried several things with her to help her get

through the school day and her homework. After 2 years I decided

that it wasn't working that's when we started asking for help. At 9

yrs old she couldn't follow a 3 step command without forgetting what

the 3rd step was by the time she got to step 2. She was my most

creative child, but that led to her day dreaming through school when

the teacher would talk.

We first had a Conner scale done by her school. I then took that

test to a counseling center and they did a couple more tests on her

and asked me a ton of questions and said that they believed she did

have ADD. When I took her to her ped for medication she also did

another scale that confirmed that she had ADD.

Shye is now 10 and has been on meds for ADD since last summer. Her

grades have improved. Homework is not a war between us anymore.

She follows directions. Most of all, she feels better about

herself. She says that things make more sense to her now. That it

is easy to listen to the teacher talk and that she doesn't miss

things that he is saying to her.

Hope this helps. I know this is a very confusing time. I

questioned so many things, but as time has went on I am very happy

with our decissions.

le,mom to:

Shye 10, Brock 8, and Coby (rss) & Carlee 2 yr old twin terrors

[Guest guest]

hi ken!!

at convention last summer Dr W. Phelan was a speaker an he is

an expert on ADD/ADHD here is the list from his book that i

purchased at convention-According to DSM-II (Diagnostic and

Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, Thrid Edition) there are 2

kinds of ADD:ADD with hyperactivity and ADD without hyperactivity.

Here is the DSM-IV criteria-

" The person must show a pattern of inattention and/or hyperactivity-

impulsivity that fits the folling criteria:

1. persistence: the behavior has lasted for at least 6 months

2. Early onset:symptoms were present (not necessarily DX) prior to

age 7

3. frequency and severity:the inattentiveness and/or hyperactivity-

impulsivity are extraordinary for persons of comparable age.

4 clear evidence of impairment:ADD the behavioral pattern must cause

significant interferce with a person's ability to function

5 impairment in 2 or more settings: the symptoms cause serious

trouble in multiple contexs, including school,(or work for adults)

home, social situations "

" DSM-IV provides 2 lists, ea. with 9 symptoms. The first list

includes manifestations of INNATTENTION:

a.fails to pay close attention to details or makes careless mistakes

b.has difficulty sustaining attention in work or play

c. does not listen when spoken directly to

d.fails to finish schoolwork, chores, work duties

e.has difficulty organizing activites

f.avoids tasks requiring mental effort

g.loses things

h.is easily distracted

i.is forgetful

The second list includes nine symptoms. The 1st 6 are signs of

HYPERACTIVITY and the last 3 are signs of IMPLUSIVITY:

a.fidgets or squirms in seat

b.leaves seat when remaining seated is expected

c.runs about or climbs in situations where such activity is

inappropriate

d.has difficulty playing quietly

e.acts as if " driven by a motor "

f.talks excessivly

IMPLUSIVITY

g.blurts out answeres before question is completed

h.

has difficulty awaiting turn

i.interrupts or intrudes on others

If child (or adult) qualifies for 6 or more items on both lists the

DX is ADHD

If a child qualifies for 6 of 9 INATTENTIVE items, but does not meet

6 of the nine HYPERACTIVITY-IMPLUSIVITY criteria they would be ADD. "

Here is his website www.THOMASPHELAN.com if you want more info or

his book to learn more. I learned alot from his lecture last year

at convention. is possible ADHD (he is only 4 and too

young to officially DX) but his ped, myself and the school believe

that he is. I am not sure what the exact testing is but will be

taking for a auditory process evaulation (he is possible

ADD) good luck and i hope this info helps. sorry it was so long.

jodie c.

(nicholas-6 1/2 nonrss, christopher-4 rss 27lbs 6oz 36 1/4 "

periactin 4.5, ght genotropin .6, ADHD/OCD possible, assmentry(left

side 1cm), johnathon-19m nonrss)

[Guest guest]

hey christine,

you should read my post to ken and check out Dr Phelan's

website. his book is very good and helps you to understand ADHD/ADD

he also has a book called 123 Magic the helps with discipline and is

very effective for a ADD?ADHD child. Structure and routine are a

big part of it. thats what we do with both of our kids. and so far

so good. if in the future we have to medicate then so be it but for

now this works and they are able to function and learn in school

with no big problems. also you have to watch with ADD/ADHD meds

from my understanding they can surpress the appeitite!! not

something you really want when your child doesnt have much of one to

begin with. good luck.

jodie c.

-- In RSS-Support , " "

<little1tobein2003@y...> wrote:

>

> -- HI Ken , well you named the main things of ADD ,My son is going

> to have to see a (shrink ) and they are they Doctors that

prescribe

> the medicine unless your ped's will In my case the Dr. wont . We

are

> set up for an appointment for Feb 14th at 1:00 . I cannot wait he

> is driving me crazy, he won't focus in school and wants to jump

> ahead of the class on answering all the questions first , He has

> been getting in alot of trouble their,we have already been in a

Rip

> program which is a behavior program and that lasted a year and I

try

> to use all the techniques that they do but nothing seems to work .

> We do use a timer with corner time but he cries and yells and

> doesn't want to stand their for his five minutes , Spanking is for

> the birds her just laughs at me and tells me he hates me, I have

> been very stressed out with him but you gotta love em ... Well let

> me know if this was any help and write back and let me know how

> things are going !! Talk to you soon 's s

>

MOM

>

>

> - In RSS-Support , " kmerrith " <kkm@i...>

wrote:

> >

> > HI everyone,

> >

> > What are the characteristics of ADD?

> >

> > My son (he's 7) is having trouble in school and at home

completing

> > homework, focusing on tasks etc. Someone mentioned ADD ( not

> ADHD).

> > So I was wondering what I should be looking for? Who makes this

> > diagnosis -- teachers, pediatrician, school shrinks?

> >

> > Any info would be a great help.

> >

> > Thanks

> >

> > Ken M

> >

[Guest guest]

--Wow thanks for putting that information on here that sure does

help with going to my appointment , has so many of those

charecteristics it is just un real , His teacher says that he can't

focus and blurts out answers and other things that were mentioned I

am glad I read this post just wanted to say Thank you and I am

definitley going to look that book up ! Mom to

!!

- In RSS-

Support , " Jodie " <jlcals2003@y...> wrote:

>

> hi ken!!

> at convention last summer Dr W. Phelan was a speaker an he

is

> an expert on ADD/ADHD here is the list from his book that i

> purchased at convention-According to DSM-II (Diagnostic and

> Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, Thrid Edition) there are 2

> kinds of ADD:ADD with hyperactivity and ADD without

hyperactivity.

> Here is the DSM-IV criteria-

>

> " The person must show a pattern of inattention and/or

hyperactivity-

> impulsivity that fits the folling criteria:

> 1. persistence: the behavior has lasted for at least 6 months

> 2. Early onset:symptoms were present (not necessarily DX) prior to

> age 7

> 3. frequency and severity:the inattentiveness and/or hyperactivity-

> impulsivity are extraordinary for persons of comparable age.

> 4 clear evidence of impairment:ADD the behavioral pattern must

cause

> significant interferce with a person's ability to function

> 5 impairment in 2 or more settings: the symptoms cause serious

> trouble in multiple contexs, including school,(or work for adults)

> home, social situations "

>

> " DSM-IV provides 2 lists, ea. with 9 symptoms. The first list

> includes manifestations of INNATTENTION:

> a.fails to pay close attention to details or makes careless

mistakes

> b.has difficulty sustaining attention in work or play

> c. does not listen when spoken directly to

> d.fails to finish schoolwork, chores, work duties

> e.has difficulty organizing activites

> f.avoids tasks requiring mental effort

> g.loses things

> h.is easily distracted

> i.is forgetful

>

> The second list includes nine symptoms. The 1st 6 are signs of

> HYPERACTIVITY and the last 3 are signs of IMPLUSIVITY:

>

> a.fidgets or squirms in seat

> b.leaves seat when remaining seated is expected

> c.runs about or climbs in situations where such activity is

> inappropriate

> d.has difficulty playing quietly

> e.acts as if " driven by a motor "

> f.talks excessivly

>

> IMPLUSIVITY

> g.blurts out answeres before question is completed

> h.

> has difficulty awaiting turn

> i.interrupts or intrudes on others

>

> If child (or adult) qualifies for 6 or more items on both lists

the

> DX is ADHD

>

> If a child qualifies for 6 of 9 INATTENTIVE items, but does not

meet

> 6 of the nine HYPERACTIVITY-IMPLUSIVITY criteria they would be

ADD. "

>

> Here is his website www.THOMASPHELAN.com if you want more info or

> his book to learn more. I learned alot from his lecture last year

> at convention. is possible ADHD (he is only 4 and too

> young to officially DX) but his ped, myself and the school believe

> that he is. I am not sure what the exact testing is but will be

> taking for a auditory process evaulation (he is possible

> ADD) good luck and i hope this info helps. sorry it was so long.

>

> jodie c.

> (nicholas-6 1/2 nonrss, christopher-4 rss 27lbs 6oz 36 1/4 "

> periactin 4.5, ght genotropin .6, ADHD/OCD possible, assmentry

(left

> side 1cm), johnathon-19m nonrss)