Re: If fruit is legal why does it have to be introduced with caution?

[Guest guest]

Pork makes me sick also if it's not cooked just so.  I'm not really sure what it is except sometimes it can make me soo ill then other times I can eat it for three days straight.  I'm guessing how it's prepared.

 

There are alternate intro diets at pecanbread.com I think.  If chicken and pork bother you, do not eat it.

 

You can redo the intro anytime.  As far as introducing fruits and nuts, I don't know.  A moderator will have to answer you there but in the meantime, you could see if there's an alternate intro on www.pecanbread.com (it's for kids but adults use the recipes also).

 

Debbie 40 cd

 

I don't have any diarrhea. I can eat any fruits and nuts with no problems at all. I do have a problem with chicken and pork for some reason, it makes me feel quite sick.I have been on SCD for 3.5mths and I have been very strict but I did eat raw fruits right from the beginning as well as nuts. I did this becuase BTVC talks about introducing such foods once the diarrhea had gone. Considering that I never have diarrhea I thought it would be ok to eat fruits and nuts from the beginning. However, overall I am no better at all. As I said when I eat fruit and nuts I don't get any immediate reaction but when I eat meat such as chicken and pork I often get an immediate reaction and feel nauseous.

I am now thinking that I should have done the Introduction properly but then chicken is a problem and I don't have diarrhea. I also cannot understand why I need to introduce fruit slowly or with caution if it is legal and I don't seem to have a problem with it.

I know I am going round in circles with this topic but I assume you will understand my dilemma.

[Guest guest]

Hey Steve,

I understand you are having a hard time wrapping your brain around this one.. it

is important though to understand Elaine's intention when she wrote the book.

Not only did she want to delineate the diet but she wanted to give a basic

" anyone can grasp " understanding of the material. So that anyone in any part of

the world can take these ideas and apply it to them, both as as individual and

geographics.

One of the tenements to understand about the SCD is that although we all come in

here sick and similar and that we have bad ecology to deal with at the end of

the day we are all very different.

The foods that work for me may or may not work for you and vice versa.

I skipped intro and never saw results.

If I would eat fruit and nuts (even today, I have to keep it super limited) I

would have the runs. I found my core group foods that work for me. So if

chicken and pork make you feel ill- what about a different type of protein, how

are you with that?

Why don't you list foods that agree with you and one of us can help you figure

some things out.

Some of us go through a much harder time figuring what is ok to eat (I SURE

DID!!)

I dry heaved every time I made chicken soup in those early months. It is rough

but we get through it!!

I would totally suggest you do the intro for a couple of days.

Just because the nuts and fruits don't give you -immediate- symptoms they may in

some way be doing something. I think this is worth investigating!

How are you with zucchini or squash?

That with some ghee and sea salt is delish! I still eat this, as I love it so

much!!

Hang in there and keep asking questions!

Jodi

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> I don't have any diarrhea. I can eat any fruits and nuts with no problems at

all. I do have a problem with chicken and pork for some reason, it makes me feel

quite sick.

> I have been on SCD for 3.5mths and I have been very strict but I did eat raw

fruits right from the beginning as well as nuts. I did this becuase BTVC talks

about introducing such foods once the diarrhea had gone. Considering that I

never have diarrhea I thought it would be ok to eat fruits and nuts from the

beginning. However, overall I am no better at all. As I said when I eat fruit

and nuts I don't get any immediate reaction but when I eat meat such as chicken

and pork I often get an immediate reaction and feel nauseous.

> I am now thinking that I should have done the Introduction properly but then

chicken is a problem and I don't have diarrhea. I also cannot understand why I

need to introduce fruit slowly or with caution if it is legal and I don't seem

to have a problem with it.

> I know I am going round in circles with this topic but I assume you will

understand my dilemma.

>

[Guest guest]

I think it saves time in with the end result if you know if something is bothering you then you just try it a few weeks later. On the other hand, Lucy from Lucy's kitchen just ate everything legal and she also healed. But I think she says it was 5 years, if my memory is correct this time. Katy

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[Guest guest]

Some people don't tolerate the chicken soup. You can try beef roast. (That's

what Marilyn ate at first.) Here is how I prepare it and it's perfect every

time.

You will need:

12 " cast iron skillet

Large oval shaped crock pot

A 4 - 5 pound beef roast (I buy whatever's on sale and is the right shape to fit

in my crock pot.)

2 lbs of carrots

1 large or 2 small onions

4 - 6 ribs of celery

4 - 6 cloves garlic

A 2/3 full coffee cup of water

Set your roast out about 20-30 minutes to come to room temp.

Heat a cast iron skillet on medium high heat (yes, it has to be cast iron. Wal

Mart now sells pre seasoned cast iron skillets.)

Rub your roast down with olive oil (or other tolerated oil)

Coat all sides of the roast in salt and pepper (if tolerated).

Place roast in the cast iron skillet for about 3 - 5 minutes per side searing it

(this includes the sides of the roast). You want the outside flesh of the roast

to be browned but not burned.

While your roast is cooking, peel and chop all the veggies. When I was really

sick, I would buy prechopped veggies and baby carrots (which are not the best

choice). I'm sure frozen would work just fine.

Place a bed of the veggie mixture on the bottom of your crock pot.

Turn the burner off and remove the roast from the pan and put it directly into

the crock pot.

Add the cup of water to the cast iron skillet.

Arrange the rest of the veggies between the roast and the sides of the crock

pot.

Using a metal spatula, scrape the bottom of the skillet and add that water to

the crock pot.

Turn it on low heat and cook 10 - 12 hours.

I start mine in the afternoon when I get home and when I wake up in the morning

it's done. I stick it in the fridge and I have breakfast/lunch/dinner for

several days.

Depending on your size crock pot, you will have to play around with the amount

of veggies. I have a large oval shaped one. The smaller round one will not cook

a very big roast at all. I usually cook a 4 - 5 pound roast.

I don't have D either. My symptoms were pain (from inflammation) and C. The pain

went away almost immediately when I started the intro diet. However, I jumped

right in the first month on the diet. It wasn't until I joined this group, that

I realized there was even an intro diet. The day I started it, I was so relieved

to be pain free and off meds. It was amazing.

Good luck,

Misty Kimble

CD - no meds

SCD - 2 1/4 years

> I am now thinking that I should have done the Introduction properly but then

chicken is a problem and I don't have diarrhea. I also cannot understand why I

need to introduce fruit slowly or with caution if it is legal and I don't seem

to have a problem with it.

> I know I am going round in circles with this topic but I assume you will

understand my dilemma.

>

[Guest guest]

Hey ,

A crock pot is a slow cooker. http://www.crock-pot.com/

It makes life so much easier. You can do chicken stocks, beans, chili, soups of

any kind, baked chicken... anything in it. I love mine. Throw the stuff in there

in the morning before work and voila, you have a nice hot meal when you get home

for dinner. It's one of my irreplaceable items in my kitchen.

Misty

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> To all of you who posted in reply to my question, thanks a lot. I will try to

do the beef roast - although I don't know what a crock pot is but I will find

out (I am in the UK).

> However, my lovely people, I still don't have an answer to why you have to

introduce fruits with caution and/or slowly? And if they don't give me any grief

do I need to worry about them?

> Steve

> SCD - 3.5mths

> Constant nausea and stomach discomfort - 18mths

> Mirtazapine - 30mgs

>

[Guest guest]

n - thanks a lot for the info, much appreciated.

I don't think I have any yeast but how would I know?

I had the nausea long before I started on Mirtazapine. I took the Mirtazapine to

get rid of the nausea as this is one of the things that it is supposed to be

good for.

Steve

Constant nausea and stomach discomfort 18mths

SCD 3.5mths

Mirtazapine 30mgs

> A crock pot is a fairly deep, electric oval or round pan that slow-cooks

> whatever you put in it. (They're also called slow cookers.) Google " crock

> pot " and you'll see pictures, etc.

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> Re: introducing fruit slowly. Because fruits are carbohydrate-heavy, some

> more than others; and if you have yeast (Candid) problems, fruit --

> especially the very sweet ones -- can exacerbate the problem. You may need

> to get rid of the yeast first, and experience some healing before adding

> one type of fruit, then another, etc., to see how it goes.

> If fruit isn't giving you a problem then I wouldn't worry about it.

>

> Are you aware that Mirtazapine can cause nausea? Maybe it's that.

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