Re: Sleeping problems.. any suggestions?

[Guest guest]

> My son has always had a huge problem with insomnia. I have tried to

> keep him off of any narcotics for this problem (which is what one

> neurologist has been suggesting).. over the past year and a half, we

> have been using Benedryl.. which has worked not only for his

> sleeping, but also with his allergies. However, for the past week

> and a half, its NOT working

Many autistic children have difficulty processing high phenols, and

sleeplessness is a major symptom. Here is more information on that,

including the epsom salt bath idea.

http://home.pacbell.net/cscomp/phenol.htm

There is a new product that has helped with my son's fruit phenol

issues, if you are interested please send me an email.

Some people use clonidine, a blood pressure medication, for this

issue, you can read about it in my medication section.

http://home.pacbell.net/cscomp/parentin.htm#medications

Some people use melatonin, this helps some AS children but others

makes them worse.

I hope that helped. Good luck.

Dana

[Guest guest]

> My son has always had a huge problem with insomnia. I have tried to

> keep him off of any narcotics for this problem (which is what one

> neurologist has been suggesting).. over the past year and a half, we

> have been using Benedryl.. which has worked not only for his

> sleeping, but also with his allergies. However, for the past week

> and a half, its NOT working

Many autistic children have difficulty processing high phenols, and

sleeplessness is a major symptom. Here is more information on that,

including the epsom salt bath idea.

http://home.pacbell.net/cscomp/phenol.htm

There is a new product that has helped with my son's fruit phenol

issues, if you are interested please send me an email.

Some people use clonidine, a blood pressure medication, for this

issue, you can read about it in my medication section.

http://home.pacbell.net/cscomp/parentin.htm#medications

Some people use melatonin, this helps some AS children but others

makes them worse.

I hope that helped. Good luck.

Dana

[Guest guest]

> My son has always had a huge problem with insomnia. I have tried

to

> keep him off of any narcotics for this problem (which is what one

> neurologist has been suggesting).. over the past year and a half,

we

> have been using Benedryl..

Rhonda, I am not sure..is Benadryl gfcf?

We use melatonin for sleep, and also look into adding calcium,

magnesium, zinc and folic acid for the overall calming effect. These

work all great for hyperactivity issues as well. then if you have

something like night waking and giggling...well the melatonin was not

working for my son until I removed all (or most of) phenolic foods

from his diet. Now he still does eat those, but less frequently and

not after 3:00pm. Not even juice.

Hope this helps. I have heard of many marents giving their children

epsom salt baths for the overall calming effect, but we can't do that

b/c my son drinks the water, so he only bathes with plain water and

baking soda, before I soap him up and rinse him off.

Cristina-WA.

[Guest guest]

> My son has always had a huge problem with insomnia. I have tried

to

> keep him off of any narcotics for this problem (which is what one

> neurologist has been suggesting).. over the past year and a half,

we

> have been using Benedryl..

Rhonda, I am not sure..is Benadryl gfcf?

We use melatonin for sleep, and also look into adding calcium,

magnesium, zinc and folic acid for the overall calming effect. These

work all great for hyperactivity issues as well. then if you have

something like night waking and giggling...well the melatonin was not

working for my son until I removed all (or most of) phenolic foods

from his diet. Now he still does eat those, but less frequently and

not after 3:00pm. Not even juice.

Hope this helps. I have heard of many marents giving their children

epsom salt baths for the overall calming effect, but we can't do that

b/c my son drinks the water, so he only bathes with plain water and

baking soda, before I soap him up and rinse him off.

Cristina-WA.

[Guest guest]

Rhonda,

I didn't think you COULD become " immune " to Benedryl's affects. That

is why it is so safe. That is what I was told. Don't know....

Janelle

[Guest guest]

-I don't know how helpful this is but my daughter had ocassional

sleeping problems and we finally linked them to bananas. Since we cut

them out she sleeps great consistently-normally(8pm-6am) I have read

about other kids with this problem so it would be worth a try if

bananas aren't something you already cut out and your child eats.

Good luck!!

Kathy - In GFCFKids@y..., " Rhonda "

<gfcfmom_73@y...> wrote:

> My son has always had a huge problem with insomnia. I have tried

to

> keep him off of any narcotics for this problem (which is what one

> neurologist has been suggesting).. over the past year and a half,

we

> have been using Benedryl.. which has worked not only for his

> sleeping, but also with his allergies. However, for the past week

> and a half, its NOT working. I think he's finally become immune to

> it drowsyness effect. We are at the max dosage for his weight

which

> is 4tsp. I have been reading the posts on here on the epsom baths,

> and i am going to try that tonight, I was just wondering if there

is

> something else that you guys are using with your child/children.

We

> see the neurologist again on the 18th, and we'll be bringing up

this

> issue.. but in the meantime!?!

>

> Thanks a ton

> Rhonda Logan

> Long Island, NY

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 10/3/01 2:38:45 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

david_j_mead@... writes:

> -I don't know how helpful this is but my daughter had ocassional

> sleeping problems and we finally linked them to bananas. Since we cut

> them out she sleeps great consistently-normally(8pm-6am) I have read

> about other kids with this problem so it would be worth a try if

> bananas aren't something you already cut out and your child eats.

> Good luck!!

>

>

Why would bananas be linked to sleeping problems?? Just curious and I have

never of that..thanks and take care,

Sue...

[Guest guest]

>

> Why would bananas be linked to sleeping problems?? Just curious and

I have

> never of that..thanks and take care,

> Sue...

>

Phenol issues, here is my information on that.

http://home.pacbell.net/cscomp/phenol.htm

Dana

[Guest guest]

| Phenol issues, here is my information on that.

|

| http://home.pacbell.net/cscomp/phenol.htm

I agree. Anything you can do to reduce the stress on their bodies will help

with any of their symptoms, I think.

Try giving the Epsom salts via a little pump spray bottle - I got one at the

pharmacy for $2. Put some epsom salt solution in it (1/4 cup salts to 1 cup

water - heat the water first to allow mixing to occur, then cool before putting

some in the bottle). Spray this onto their skin and rub it in, at least daily

(we're doing it AM and PM if no bath). In fact, I think this is better than the

baths, as you can control dosing better and you can use filtered water. BTW My

daughter's bedtime hyperactivity improved when we started filtering her bath

water.

My daughter had a bedtime sniffle and sleep issues that got better when we

started washing her bedding and pajamas in hot water only - no soaps, softeners,

dryer sheets, etc. Cover the mattress, keep the dust down, close the window at

night and use an air filter, etc. If you can't get rid of the carpet in the

bedroom, at least try covering it over with a plastic drop cloth, taped to the

walls. Also try covering the window this way - my daughter's bedtime sniffle

got lots better when her bedroom window was replaced (!) apparently because mold

or smut was in it.

Any detoxification you can do with your son can eventually help him process the

allergens better, and anything you can do to help his digestion (e.g. enzymes)

can also help his body to process the allergens.

Good luck, K.

[Guest guest]

| Phenol issues, here is my information on that.

|

| http://home.pacbell.net/cscomp/phenol.htm

I agree. Anything you can do to reduce the stress on their bodies will help

with any of their symptoms, I think.

Try giving the Epsom salts via a little pump spray bottle - I got one at the

pharmacy for $2. Put some epsom salt solution in it (1/4 cup salts to 1 cup

water - heat the water first to allow mixing to occur, then cool before putting

some in the bottle). Spray this onto their skin and rub it in, at least daily

(we're doing it AM and PM if no bath). In fact, I think this is better than the

baths, as you can control dosing better and you can use filtered water. BTW My

daughter's bedtime hyperactivity improved when we started filtering her bath

water.

My daughter had a bedtime sniffle and sleep issues that got better when we

started washing her bedding and pajamas in hot water only - no soaps, softeners,

dryer sheets, etc. Cover the mattress, keep the dust down, close the window at

night and use an air filter, etc. If you can't get rid of the carpet in the

bedroom, at least try covering it over with a plastic drop cloth, taped to the

walls. Also try covering the window this way - my daughter's bedtime sniffle

got lots better when her bedroom window was replaced (!) apparently because mold

or smut was in it.

Any detoxification you can do with your son can eventually help him process the

allergens better, and anything you can do to help his digestion (e.g. enzymes)

can also help his body to process the allergens.

Good luck, K.

[Guest guest]

Rhonda ,

We use melatonin from kirkmans , helps alot.

Valarie in Ca

[Guest guest]

Rhonda, you mentioned that your son has insomnia. Have you tested for food

allergies? My son is allergic to everthing, and we have to rotate everthing

every four days. He used to be up screaming every night until we discovered

that he was allergic to what he ate before going to bed. Joanne