Guest guest Posted April 2, 2010 Report Share Posted April 2, 2010 , I've read the GAPS book. It's interesting, but in terms of diet, you'll do better with SCD. GAPS based itself off SCD, but it permits several things which are not SCD-legal, including the use of bifidus, which C_M admits some people don't tolerate. If 50% juices are a problem, try diluting it to 25% juice and 75% water -- or even more water. I didn't tolerate most juices for a long time on the diet because it was just too direct a hit of even the legal sugars. I couldn't handle the carrots -- I ate peeled steamed zucchini. SCD isn't an overnight cure. I started it right after emergency gall bladder surgery -- my liver enzymes were so high the surgeon later told me he expected to find end-stage liver cancer. My husband is NOT, repeat, NOT a cook. He can oven-bake bacon, and do a toasted cheese sandwich, and that's about it. He bought the ingredients for the chicken soup and I managed to put it together, but, as I said, the carrots and I didn't get along. (Bright orange liquid poo is just not where it's at....) I was, for whatever reason, craving eggs, specifically soft-boiled eggs, so I did some of those, in spite of the fact that eggs may worsen diarrhea. So I tried them, and weirdly, the diarrhea eased. Harry brought home some zucchini, knowing I liked it, and it seemed the most innocuous, and I peeled and steamed that. Even more easing. So then we tried roast beef and roast pork -- both just lightly peppered and cooked in an oven bag. That worked. So Harry would bring home a couple of roasts and I would stagger up front, get them ready to go into the oven, he would peel and slice zucchini and put it in bags in the fridge, and then bag slices of roast in bags, and about every two hours I would stagger up front and have eggs, or zucchini, or roast, or zucchini, or roast, or zucchini, or eggs, or zucchini..... the long and the short of it is that I ate an AWFUL lot of zucchini. It was around this time that Krivel first posted the electrolyte drink on Long Island List, and I added that. And after about ten days, I was able to get some more yogurt made, and added dripped cow yogurt to my repertoire. So I suppose it's not QUITE true that I ate four foods, since I did have cheese, and yogurt in there. But the daft thing about it is that yes, it did get better -- for one thing, I recovered from the surgery faster than the surgeon expected. Christmas of 2001 I did a full fledged parallel SCD / " normal " dinner -- Some of the foods were a bit too advanced for me, and I did pay for having them. I scaled back to my basic foods immediately after Christmas, and began a more sensible system (hah!) of adding things. The thing which kept me with it, though, was something which my husband said to me Christmas night. ADD/ ADHD runs in my family. As my gut issues got worse, so did my ADD/ADHD. Doing Christmas dinner has always been a trial for me and I know entirely too well what's meant when Moms over on Pecanbread talk about kids going into melt down because I have been there myself. During this first, chaotic SCD Christmas, there were a number of things which went wrong (imagine trying to make up your recipes as you go along for a feast being served to the whole family, plus four other couples who have been invited at the last minute...). In other years, I'd have gone to pieces. On SCD, I swore, said, " Dammit, that didn't work, here, I'll do this instead... " and kept going. I never noticed. My husband, however, did. And pointed it out to me. And then added, " I like SCD. It's nice to to have the woman I married back. " — Marilyn New Orleans, Louisiana, USA Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001 Darn Good SCD Cook No Human Children Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund Babette the Foundling Beagle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2010 Report Share Posted April 3, 2010 Are you taking any conventional meds for the ulcer? I had a gastric ulcer and GERD and aside from taking Prilosec, I found avoiding anything too acidic or spicy helped a lot.IMO, the chicken soup is very healing and I did great with that. I do great with cooked cabbage but find sauerkraut too acidic. Possibly cooked cabbage still has enough juices to be effective if you can tolerate it. -- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2010 Report Share Posted April 3, 2010 I am not familiar with this diet but wanted to comment on two things: sauerkraut and vegetable juice (namely cabbage). I tried making my ow sauerkraut and failed so decided to but some organic kraut at Whole Foods because I can't eat SCD yogurt and wanted to add some more probiotic to my diet.( I take an acidophilus pill every morning). Sauerkraut and I do not make a happy couple. I tried it a week ago, just a teaspoon or less and had terrible D. Gave myself a week and just tried it again. Not as bad but still unhappy gut. So I have a $10 bottle of sauerkraut and no success. Cabbage juice: I have been making my own using a blender and screening out the fiber for several months. No gas at all. I think it is a positive factor so just ordered a juicer/extractor. My gut does not tolerate fruit/fruit juices so this is one way to get more good stuff into my diet. I have also read about stomach ulcers being healed with cabbage juice (Vitamin K). It doesn't taste nasty at all, just kinda " green " . > > > > > > > hey Mara, > > > > Thank you SO MUCH for helping walk me through this. They should really put that " getting started " at the top of the web site, I was up to my ears in the outline and 'detox' section and then trying to read and parse and get through that 'introduction diet' page without a clue where they were coming from, it's so wordy it didn't work without the " getting started " to tip me off!! especially since I knew all the SCD stuff so I was trying to find the part I didn't know and ugh. > > > > Thank you. > > > > My first question: I checked out the probiotic they recommend. it has bifidus, and maltodextrin. I've unwittingly taken maltodextrin, it was one of the worst mistakes I've ever made. I'm seriously, seriously questioning these people. > > Yeah - that's the one area that they differ from SCD - seems to help some people quite > a lot, others not so much. If maltodextrin affects you that badly, don't use it. I know that > some people have done GAPS, but stayed using SCD probiotics. > > > > However, I read some stuff i didn't know and I learned a lot and I've got some good ideas of stuff I should be doing. Still, I'm very confused about conflicting recommendations. especially about fruit and nut integration. They seem to delay fruits a lot, and speed up nut butters. I'm wondering how SCDers resolve them? > > Not sure about that - I imagine it works for some and not so much for others. > > > I guess maybe I should try making sauerkraut juice? is this necessary even though I'm taking acidophilous? > > Acidophilus doesn't implant when you are on the GAPS/SCDiet, because > our low carb diet does not support it that way - whereas the probiotics in > sauerkraut do. So, yeah, it can be very useful. > > I keep meaning to do that myself, just haven't managed yet. > Last month's effort - bought two books with recipes and bought > another cabbage (the first one just sat in my fridge until I finally > threw it out.) > > > They say to start this immediately, but I'm thinking from what I've seen SCD that raw vegetable juice is a little advanced? > > Well, you could dilute it - but it is probiotic rich. If you try it, let us know > how it works for you. > > > Thanks again!! > > > > > > p.s. oh, also about low stomach acidity. Since I've had ulcer problems in the past and now, I'm assuming I don't have that, right? thanks! > > no clue. > > Mara > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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