Re: advice please

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It's not too early to try the yogurt. We were dairy free for about two months

before we brought it back in with the yogurt. You can try it to see if it

helps.

Meleah

advice please

help! am i on the right track? i feel like we are eating so little,

and making gains overall in decreasing eczema, but my daughter still

flares up consistently. it's day 12 on SCD.

right now we are eating:

chicken broth

broiled chicken, beef, turkey

steamed spinach, green beans, artichokes

poached eggs

diluted cherry juice (very sparingly, about 2 oz a day)

pureed banana " shake "

homemade applesauce

we tried these, but i decided to cut them out to see if that might

stop the flare ups:

veggie-egg " pizza "

avocado

almond butter-banana muffins

homemade mayo

we don't eat honey or any other sweetener because of yeast. her only

sweet thing is cooked apple or ripe banana, or the tiny bit of

diluted juice i give her for taking her chinese herbs with. i cut out

the above foods because i thought they were the most likely to have

caused problems (eczema flare ups and green mushy stools), but i

really feel like it's impossible to tell what is causing the

problems. sometimes i see her scratching immediately upon eating. but

it doesn't always make sense. this morning she was scratching after

drinking some chicken broth.

could it be that things are just tumultuous in the beginning and her

body is just not settled yet, making it look like she's reacting to

everything? should i just stick to these stage 1 & some stage 2 foods

for a while and see if things settle down? do i really need to cut

out some of the veggies? i feel like the lack of variety is not

healthy for us anymore. i suspect that eating so many eggs and meat

has given us both sour stomachs all the time.

i'm confused about goat yogurt as well. we have been dairy free for a

couple of months now. is it too soon to start the yogurt? i made some

and it's in the fridge waiting. i was going to try 1/8 tsp per day. i

wonder if that could help her gut to deal with the yeast.

thanks

silvia, daughter with eczema (2) and dairy sensitivity, SCD day 12

[Guest guest]

For a child who's only been on SCD for 12 days, I think you are going to see all

kinds of changes. I would not be surprised at all to see green mushy stools once

in a while in a kid who has been SCD for less than 2 weeks. You will probably

still see some die-off... off and on for a while.

At only 12 days in, you really do need to stick with foods that are super easy

to digest.

I'm not sure artichokes are something I personally would think of as " easy to

digest " . What part do you use? And how is it prepared? What cherry juice are

you using? Knudsen's " Just Cherry " ?

I would suggest peeled zucchini squash.... and/or butternut squash first. I

don't really follow the " stages " chart that much.... but it is a good general

guideline for those who have no idea what foods might be easier to digest than

others. I'm just not sure I would exactly break things into those particular

categories. Everyone is different.

Just keep in mind that you are going to see symptoms off and on at this

point.... all part of the healing process. It isn't necessarily a straight line

in an upward direction. Right now, her gut is probably still very damaged, so

you'll still see sensitivities to a lot of things. Healing takes a lot of time.

Patience!

Patti

advice please

help! am i on the right track? i feel like we are eating so little,

and making gains overall in decreasing eczema, but my daughter still

flares up consistently. it's day 12 on SCD.

right now we are eating:

chicken broth

broiled chicken, beef, turkey

steamed spinach, green beans, artichokes

poached eggs

diluted cherry juice (very sparingly, about 2 oz a day)

pureed banana " shake "

homemade applesauce

we tried these, but i decided to cut them out to see if that might

stop the flare ups:

veggie-egg " pizza "

avocado

almond butter-banana muffins

homemade mayo

we don't eat honey or any other sweetener because of yeast. her only

sweet thing is cooked apple or ripe banana, or the tiny bit of

diluted juice i give her for taking her chinese herbs with. i cut out

the above foods because i thought they were the most likely to have

caused problems (eczema flare ups and green mushy stools), but i

really feel like it's impossible to tell what is causing the

problems. sometimes i see her scratching immediately upon eating. but

it doesn't always make sense. this morning she was scratching after

drinking some chicken broth.

could it be that things are just tumultuous in the beginning and her

body is just not settled yet, making it look like she's reacting to

everything? should i just stick to these stage 1 & some stage 2 foods

for a while and see if things settle down? do i really need to cut

out some of the veggies? i feel like the lack of variety is not

healthy for us anymore. i suspect that eating so many eggs and meat

has given us both sour stomachs all the time.

i'm confused about goat yogurt as well. we have been dairy free for a

couple of months now. is it too soon to start the yogurt? i made some

and it's in the fridge waiting. i was going to try 1/8 tsp per day. i

wonder if that could help her gut to deal with the yeast.

thanks

silvia, daughter with eczema (2) and dairy sensitivity, SCD day 12

[Guest guest]

thanks patti.

i have been following the chart on pecanbread. we tried zucchini but

it makes me nauseous and my daughter didn't like it either. tried

butternut today and i like it but not my daughter. i might have to

hide that one somewhere. we eat spinach which we both like. yeah i

was wondering about the artichokes...they are steamed for about 35

minutes then eaten leaf by leaf with nothing on them. the cherry

juice is from Santa Cruz Naturals, contains water, apple & cherry

juice concentrates, natural flavors. oops i think you're right, it

might not be legal!! i think the " 100% juice " stamp on the front

fooled me.

good to know the ups and downs are normal.

silvia

> For a child who's only been on SCD for 12 days, I think you are

> going to see all kinds of changes. I would not be surprised at all

> to see green mushy stools once in a while in a kid who has been SCD

> for less than 2 weeks. You will probably still see some die-off...

> off and on for a while.

>

> At only 12 days in, you really do need to stick with foods that are

> super easy to digest.

> I'm not sure artichokes are something I personally would think of

> as " easy to digest " . What part do you use? And how is it

> prepared? What cherry juice are you using? Knudsen's " Just Cherry " ?

>

> I would suggest peeled zucchini squash.... and/or butternut squash

> first. I don't really follow the " stages " chart that much.... but

> it is a good general guideline for those who have no idea what

> foods might be easier to digest than others. I'm just not sure I

> would exactly break things into those particular categories.

> Everyone is different.

>

> Just keep in mind that you are going to see symptoms off and on at

> this point.... all part of the healing process. It isn't

> necessarily a straight line in an upward direction. Right now, her

> gut is probably still very damaged, so you'll still see

> sensitivities to a lot of things. Healing takes a lot of time.

> Patience!

>

> Patti

>

> advice please

>

>

> help! am i on the right track? i feel like we are eating so little,

> and making gains overall in decreasing eczema, but my daughter still

> flares up consistently. it's day 12 on SCD.

>

> right now we are eating:

>

> chicken broth

> broiled chicken, beef, turkey

> steamed spinach, green beans, artichokes

> poached eggs

> diluted cherry juice (very sparingly, about 2 oz a day)

> pureed banana " shake "

> homemade applesauce

>

> we tried these, but i decided to cut them out to see if that might

> stop the flare ups:

> veggie-egg " pizza "

> avocado

> almond butter-banana muffins

> homemade mayo

>

> we don't eat honey or any other sweetener because of yeast. her only

> sweet thing is cooked apple or ripe banana, or the tiny bit of

> diluted juice i give her for taking her chinese herbs with. i cut

> out

> the above foods because i thought they were the most likely to have

> caused problems (eczema flare ups and green mushy stools), but i

> really feel like it's impossible to tell what is causing the

> problems. sometimes i see her scratching immediately upon eating.

> but

> it doesn't always make sense. this morning she was scratching after

> drinking some chicken broth.

>

> could it be that things are just tumultuous in the beginning and her

> body is just not settled yet, making it look like she's reacting to

> everything? should i just stick to these stage 1 & some stage 2

> foods

> for a while and see if things settle down? do i really need to cut

> out some of the veggies? i feel like the lack of variety is not

> healthy for us anymore. i suspect that eating so many eggs and meat

> has given us both sour stomachs all the time.

>

> i'm confused about goat yogurt as well. we have been dairy free

> for a

> couple of months now. is it too soon to start the yogurt? i made

> some

> and it's in the fridge waiting. i was going to try 1/8 tsp per

> day. i

> wonder if that could help her gut to deal with the yeast.

>

> thanks

> silvia, daughter with eczema (2) and dairy sensitivity, SCD day 12

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Nope.... absolutely not legal on that juice. If you can get ALL the illegals

out, and be very, very dilligent about every last SPECK..... read labels and

don't let anything slip past.... you will get MUCH better results on this diet.

Patti

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the cherry

juice is from Santa Cruz Naturals, contains water, apple & cherry

juice concentrates, natural flavors. oops i think you're right, it

might not be legal!! i think the " 100% juice " stamp on the front

fooled me.

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Just one thing you may not have thought of.....chicken. I have eczema and

started experiencing big flare ups, my hands hurt so bad, cracks all over

them. I went to my doctor and he tested me, and told me it was chicken that

I was sensitive to. I thought about it and I had just started drinking home

made chicken broth every morning before the flare up. So, I went off

chicken and it cleared up. I have not had broth since. Now I can eat

chicken a couple times a week with no problem, but am still afraid to try

the broth. My sensitivities to foods are clearing up little by little, so

some day I may be able to have it again.

Maybe just try going off the chicken and see what happens. I feel for your

daughter, I know what it is like to be itching and bleeding and still not be

able to stop itching. I had dairy allergy also, but after staying off it

for a while and doing this diet I have been able to add it in. I got tested

for COW dairy and can now have it in the SCD yogurt. So, there is hope!! I

would start with a little goat yogurt 1st though, I was able to tolerate

that WAY before cow. The yogurt will help a lot with the yeast if she can

tolerate it. If not, people have posted recipes for yogurts made with other

types of milks. Hope this helps.

Let us know how it goes.

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help! am i on the right track? i feel like we are eating so little,

and making gains overall in decreasing eczema, but my daughter still

flares up consistently. it's day 12 on SCD.

right now we are eating:

chicken broth

broiled chicken, beef, turkey

steamed spinach, green beans, artichokes

poached eggs

diluted cherry juice (very sparingly, about 2 oz a day)

pureed banana " shake "

homemade applesauce

we tried these, but i decided to cut them out to see if that might

stop the flare ups:

veggie-egg " pizza "

avocado

almond butter-banana muffins

homemade mayo

we don't eat honey or any other sweetener because of yeast. her only

sweet thing is cooked apple or ripe banana, or the tiny bit of

diluted juice i give her for taking her chinese herbs with. i cut out

the above foods because i thought they were the most likely to have

caused problems (eczema flare ups and green mushy stools), but i

really feel like it's impossible to tell what is causing the

problems. sometimes i see her scratching immediately upon eating. but

it doesn't always make sense. this morning she was scratching after

drinking some chicken broth.

could it be that things are just tumultuous in the beginning and her

body is just not settled yet, making it look like she's reacting to

everything? should i just stick to these stage 1 & some stage 2 foods

for a while and see if things settle down? do i really need to cut

out some of the veggies? i feel like the lack of variety is not

healthy for us anymore. i suspect that eating so many eggs and meat

has given us both sour stomachs all the time.

i'm confused about goat yogurt as well. we have been dairy free for a

couple of months now. is it too soon to start the yogurt? i made some

and it's in the fridge waiting. i was going to try 1/8 tsp per day. i

wonder if that could help her gut to deal with the yeast.

thanks

silvia, daughter with eczema (2) and dairy sensitivity, SCD day 12

[Guest guest]

So, did a traditional allergist test you, and discover the chicken issue? Have

others been tested, and discovered that certain foods were causing the eczema

problem? I ask this because Mark's eczema has improved so much, but we

still have never completely gotten rid of it. He's off all grains, of course,

but he eats eggs every day. I give him dairy on occassion(either cheese or

yogurt). I put him on SCD with my ASD child because of others having success

with clearing up the eczema. I have tried the coconut oil and tea tree oil

alternatingly to treat the symptom, but there's got to be an underlying food for

this eczema problem. Any suggestions?

Meleah

[Norton AntiSpam] advice please

help! am i on the right track? i feel like we are eating so little,

and making gains overall in decreasing eczema, but my daughter still

flares up consistently. it's day 12 on SCD.

right now we are eating:

chicken broth

broiled chicken, beef, turkey

steamed spinach, green beans, artichokes

poached eggs

diluted cherry juice (very sparingly, about 2 oz a day)

pureed banana " shake "

homemade applesauce

we tried these, but i decided to cut them out to see if that might

stop the flare ups:

veggie-egg " pizza "

avocado

almond butter-banana muffins

homemade mayo

we don't eat honey or any other sweetener because of yeast. her only

sweet thing is cooked apple or ripe banana, or the tiny bit of

diluted juice i give her for taking her chinese herbs with. i cut out

the above foods because i thought they were the most likely to have

caused problems (eczema flare ups and green mushy stools), but i

really feel like it's impossible to tell what is causing the

problems. sometimes i see her scratching immediately upon eating. but

it doesn't always make sense. this morning she was scratching after

drinking some chicken broth.

could it be that things are just tumultuous in the beginning and her

body is just not settled yet, making it look like she's reacting to

everything? should i just stick to these stage 1 & some stage 2 foods

for a while and see if things settle down? do i really need to cut

out some of the veggies? i feel like the lack of variety is not

healthy for us anymore. i suspect that eating so many eggs and meat

has given us both sour stomachs all the time.

i'm confused about goat yogurt as well. we have been dairy free for a

couple of months now. is it too soon to start the yogurt? i made some

and it's in the fridge waiting. i was going to try 1/8 tsp per day. i

wonder if that could help her gut to deal with the yeast.

thanks

silvia, daughter with eczema (2) and dairy sensitivity, SCD day 12

[Guest guest]

It was not a traditional allergist, it was my kinesiologist/chiropractor who

tested me. Since I had a problem with the chicken he also tested me for

eggs and bingo, sensitive to the whites. I had to stay off all dairy for a

while, but now can have the yogurt with no problems. One thing that really

helps when I have symptoms is putting a cup of baking soda in with the epsom

salt bath. It really helps soften up the thick skin. When I have a flare

up it is almost always something I have eaten, but I use all toiletries with

NO perfumes in them, use natural products. Keep the bathroom mold free as

possible and I use a homeopathic spray during pollen season. I am glad your

son is on this diet because eczema is an autoimmune problem and this will

help with the leaky gut/food allergy thing. I use my coconut oil orally,

topically does not help the eczema, only over the counter cortisone cream

helps that. I only use it when it is really flared which is not often any

more thanks to this diet : )

Hope this helps!

-- Re: advice please

So, did a traditional allergist test you, and discover the chicken issue?

Have others been tested, and discovered that certain foods were causing the

eczema problem? I ask this because Mark's eczema has improved so much,

but we still have never completely gotten rid of it. He's off all grains, of

course, but he eats eggs every day. I give him dairy on occassion(either

cheese or yogurt). I put him on SCD with my ASD child because of others

having success with clearing up the eczema. I have tried the coconut oil and

tea tree oil alternatingly to treat the symptom, but there's got to be an

underlying food for this eczema problem. Any suggestions?

Meleah

[Norton AntiSpam] advice please

help! am i on the right track? i feel like we are eating so little,

and making gains overall in decreasing eczema, but my daughter still

flares up consistently. it's day 12 on SCD.

right now we are eating:

chicken broth

broiled chicken, beef, turkey

steamed spinach, green beans, artichokes

poached eggs

diluted cherry juice (very sparingly, about 2 oz a day)

pureed banana " shake "

homemade applesauce

we tried these, but i decided to cut them out to see if that might

stop the flare ups:

veggie-egg " pizza "

avocado

almond butter-banana muffins

homemade mayo

we don't eat honey or any other sweetener because of yeast. her only

sweet thing is cooked apple or ripe banana, or the tiny bit of

diluted juice i give her for taking her chinese herbs with. i cut out

the above foods because i thought they were the most likely to have

caused problems (eczema flare ups and green mushy stools), but i

really feel like it's impossible to tell what is causing the

problems. sometimes i see her scratching immediately upon eating. but

it doesn't always make sense. this morning she was scratching after

drinking some chicken broth.

could it be that things are just tumultuous in the beginning and her

body is just not settled yet, making it look like she's reacting to

everything? should i just stick to these stage 1 & some stage 2 foods

for a while and see if things settle down? do i really need to cut

out some of the veggies? i feel like the lack of variety is not

healthy for us anymore. i suspect that eating so many eggs and meat

has given us both sour stomachs all the time.

i'm confused about goat yogurt as well. we have been dairy free for a

couple of months now. is it too soon to start the yogurt? i made some

and it's in the fridge waiting. i was going to try 1/8 tsp per day. i

wonder if that could help her gut to deal with the yeast.

thanks

silvia, daughter with eczema (2) and dairy sensitivity, SCD day 12

[Guest guest]

I guess I need to find out what food(s) are the problem because I haven't been

able to pin it down just with SCD. I know it is a food though.

Meleah

[Norton AntiSpam] advice please

help! am i on the right track? i feel like we are eating so little,

and making gains overall in decreasing eczema, but my daughter still

flares up consistently. it's day 12 on SCD.

right now we are eating:

chicken broth

broiled chicken, beef, turkey

steamed spinach, green beans, artichokes

poached eggs

diluted cherry juice (very sparingly, about 2 oz a day)

pureed banana " shake "

homemade applesauce

we tried these, but i decided to cut them out to see if that might

stop the flare ups:

veggie-egg " pizza "

avocado

almond butter-banana muffins

homemade mayo

we don't eat honey or any other sweetener because of yeast. her only

sweet thing is cooked apple or ripe banana, or the tiny bit of

diluted juice i give her for taking her chinese herbs with. i cut out

the above foods because i thought they were the most likely to have

caused problems (eczema flare ups and green mushy stools), but i

really feel like it's impossible to tell what is causing the

problems. sometimes i see her scratching immediately upon eating. but

it doesn't always make sense. this morning she was scratching after

drinking some chicken broth.

could it be that things are just tumultuous in the beginning and her

body is just not settled yet, making it look like she's reacting to

everything? should i just stick to these stage 1 & some stage 2 foods

for a while and see if things settle down? do i really need to cut

out some of the veggies? i feel like the lack of variety is not

healthy for us anymore. i suspect that eating so many eggs and meat

has given us both sour stomachs all the time.

i'm confused about goat yogurt as well. we have been dairy free for a

couple of months now. is it too soon to start the yogurt? i made some

and it's in the fridge waiting. i was going to try 1/8 tsp per day. i

wonder if that could help her gut to deal with the yeast.

thanks

silvia, daughter with eczema (2) and dairy sensitivity, SCD day 12

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> Hi everyone! Thank you in advance for reading this and helping me out.

> I have had six very long and complicated years with gastroparesis, colonic

inertia, chronic constipation, vomiting,feeding tubes.. (the list goes on).

>

> I am currently on several medications and supplements along with a big diet

change to treat candida, parasites, and bad bacteria with an absence of the good

bacteria. I also have issues with mercury and tin.

>

> I am trying to make coconut yogurt and need some advice. The only sugar I am

allowed to have per doctors orders are berries. He specifically stated no

honey, no agave, no molasses or maple syrup.

> What can I possibly put in the yogurt to feed the bacteria. Should I try and

puree some berries to add? I have the GI prohealth starter.

Why not. You can certainly try to see if it works.

If you add them to the blender and whizz them

and then strain through a very finely woven nylon mesh

nutbag, that should strain out all the seeds as well.

Although in the case of coconut yogurt, the honey is

being mixed in to feed the bacteria and not the human.

So you might want to address a query to

your doctor about that.

Mara