Re: Interesting information on the effects on yogurt if incubated for 24hrs

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Both of these tests were done on unpasteurized goat's milk using the same probiotic."Unpasteurized...hm. We use pasteurized. Do you think that could affect the results? Or no, because the pasteurization was a constant in the experiment anyways? Peace =)Alyssa 16 yo UC April 2008, dx Sept 2008SCD June 2009 (restarted)Azathioprine 75 mg 1x per dayPrednisone 30 mg 1x per day

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You're going one step beyond pasteurizing the milk when you heat it to 180F+ and then cool it down anyway. So, if you start with pasturized or not, it doesn't matter because in the end you'll have the same result. Pasturization (depending on the type) doesn't kill ALL the microorganisms, but does kill alot so that a product lasts longer on the shelf of a store.Effectiveness of Pasteurization

Milk pasteurization has been subject to increasing scrutiny in

recent years, due to the discovery of pathogens that are both

widespread and heat resistant (able to survive pasteurization in

significant numbers).[5] One of these pathogens, Mycobacterium avium subsp. paratuberculosis (MAP), is linked to Crohn's Disease.[6] Researchers have developed more sensitive diagnostics, such as real-time PCR and improved culture methods that have enabled them to identify pathogens in pasteurised milk. -UC - 1+ yearsSCD - 8 months 100% strict and 4 months restricted diet.Asacol - 12 pills a day Prednisone 40mg entocort With vit E mixed inBack to intro/stage 1 for now.To: BTVC-SCD From: luckycharms@...Date: Wed, 5 May 2010 22:00:19 -0400Subject: Re: Interesting information on the effects on yogurt if incubated for 24hrs

Both of these tests were done on unpasteurized goat's milk using the same probiotic."Unpasteurized...hm. We use pasteurized. Do you think that could affect the results? Or no, because the pasteurization was a constant in the experiment anyways? Peace =)Alyssa 16 yo UC April 2008, dx Sept 2008SCD June 2009 (restarted)Azathioprine 75 mg 1x per dayPrednisone 30 mg 1x per day

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I've always found Lacteeze drops (as well as the competing product, Lactaid, and

generic brands) in the drug store -- never the grocery store. Try asking your

pharmacist.

Karina

SCD 11 months

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> I bought my lacteeze drops from Amazon.com

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> UC - 1+ years

> SCD - 8 months 100% strict and 4 months restricted diet.

> Asacol - 12 pills a day

> Prednisone 40mg

> entocort With vit E mixed in

> Back to intro/stage 1 for now.

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Mara - I am merely passing on what Yougourmet's lab said, I believe they were

meaning all probiotics but in this specific case they mantioned their CBA

starter which stands for Casei, Bifidus and Acidophilus. They said that

incubating for 12-15hrs is ok but after 24hrs the yogurt becomes too acidic. I

don't know any more than that. It could be that this is part of the reason why

most commercial makers don't incubate for as long as we do.

I think it is also worth repeating that some lactose still remains after 24hrs.

Sorry that I don't have any more info.

Steve

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> > The fact is that we rightly spend a lot of time making sure that all of our

supplements are free from any disaccharide and polysacharide carbohydrates yet

it seems that our yogurt still contains some lactose and equally if Yogourmet's

2010 laboratory state that probiotics have problems with high acidity that

results after 24hrs of incubation then perhaps this is something we need to take

on board, particularly those who struggle with consuming yogurt.

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> Which probiotics are in the sample they discussed, since they don't use the

one we use?

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> Also, acidophilus does not have problems with acid - the very name means acid

loving.

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> Thirdly, if you are having problems with dairy yogurt, make coconut yogurt.

There's been enough

> discussion of it lately. No lactose and recipe is in the files.

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> Mara

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I've asked the pharmacist and they didn't carry them.  Two in fact.  I found two on-line sources and Amazon seems to be the cheapest.

 

Mara - I am merely passing on what Yougourmet's lab said, I believe they were meaning all probiotics but in this specific case they mantioned their CBA starter which stands for Casei, Bifidus and Acidophilus. They said that incubating for 12-15hrs is ok but after 24hrs the yogurt becomes too acidic. I don't know any more than that. It could be that this is part of the reason why most commercial makers don't incubate for as long as we do.

I think it is also worth repeating that some lactose still remains after 24hrs.Sorry that I don't have any more info.Steve

> > > The fact is that we rightly spend a lot of time making sure that all of our supplements are free from any disaccharide and polysacharide carbohydrates yet it seems that our yogurt still contains some lactose and equally if Yogourmet's 2010 laboratory state that probiotics have problems with high acidity that results after 24hrs of incubation then perhaps this is something we need to take on board, particularly those who struggle with consuming yogurt.

> > Which probiotics are in the sample they discussed, since they don't use the one we use?> > Also, acidophilus does not have problems with acid - the very name means acid loving.>

> Thirdly, if you are having problems with dairy yogurt, make coconut yogurt. There's been enough> discussion of it lately. No lactose and recipe is in the files. > > Mara>