New to SCD

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At 09:53 AM 4/12/2010, you wrote:

I am not sure that ignoring

doctor recommendation can be called smart. Ask for a second opinion, but

don't browse the internet for magic cures. There are lots of them and

most of them don't work. Crohn is a very dangerous disease especially to

a young person. There is nothing wrong with enteral nutrition (Ensure).

There are lots of studies indicating that it induces remission and helps

with weight gain. You can always try SCD when she gets

better.

I wouldn't recommend going against a person's physician. None of us are

doctors here (well, except for one or two who have chosen to identify

themselves as such).

However, I've looked at the ingredients in Ensure.

WATER, SUGAR (SUCROSE), CORN MALTODEXTRIN, MILK PROTEIN CONCENTRATE,

SOY OIL, SHORT-CHAIN FRUCTOOLIGOSACCHARIDES, CANOLA OIL, LESS THAN 0.5%

OF: SOY PROTEIN CONCENTRATE, CORN OIL, POTASSIUM CITRATE, NATURAL AND

ARTIFICIAL FLAVOR, MAGNESIUM PHOSPHATE, SODIUM CITRATE, SOY LECITHIN,

CALCIUM PHOSPHATE, MAGNESIUM CHLORIDE, SALT (SODIUM CHLORIDE), CHOLINE

CHLORIDE, ASCORBIC ACID, CARRAGEENAN, POTASSIUM CHLORIDE, FERROUS

SULFATE, DL-ALPHA-TOCOPHERYL ACETATE, ZINC SULFATE, NIACINAMIDE, CALCIUM

PANTOTHENATE, MANGANESE SULFATE, CUPRIC SULFATE, VITAMIN A PALMITATE,

THIAMINE CHLORIDE HYDROCHLORIDE, PYRIDOXINE HYDROCHLORIDE, RIBOFLAVIN,

FOLIC ACID, CHROMIUM CHLORIDE, BIOTIN, SODIUM MOLYBDATE, POTASSIUM

IODIDE, SODIUM SELENATE, PHYLLOQUINONE, VITAMIN D3 AND CYANOCOBALAMIN.

CONTAINS MILK AND SOY INGREDIENTS.

CONTAINS MILK AND SOY INGREDIENTS; LACTOSE- AND GLUTEN-FREE.

There's PLENTY wrong with Ensure. You couldn't PAY me to drink it. It

is possible to make savory smoothies which have as much or more nutrition

than Ensure.

—

Marilyn

New

Orleans, Louisiana, USA

Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001

Darn Good SCD Cook

No Human Children

Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund

Babette the Foundling Beagle

[Guest guest]

With all due respect, , if I had listened to my doctors, I'd be dead, or at least have had to have part of my colon removed, along with another organ, but with the suffering and complications I was going through i really don't think I would have made it long enough until they would have done that.

I have found that sometimes, a doctor can be the most hazardous thing to your health. I have certainly been f****** righteously by many, for many many years. And there really is nothing that great about ensure, even if you could digest it. SCD foods are much, much better for you.

If you don't like browsing the internet, although that might save your life, you can grab a copy of ye-old Breaking The Vicious Cycle in a bookstore, or if you're lucky, find a doctor that uses it. Ignoring doctor recommendation is one of the smartest things I've ever done.

Best,On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 1:28 PM, Wizop Marilyn L. Alm wrote:

 

At 09:53 AM 4/12/2010, you wrote:

I am not sure that ignoring

doctor recommendation can be called smart. Ask for a second opinion, but

don't browse the internet for magic cures. There are lots of them and

most of them don't work. Crohn is a very dangerous disease especially to

a young person. There is nothing wrong with enteral nutrition (Ensure).

There are lots of studies indicating that it induces remission and helps

with weight gain. You can always try SCD when she gets

better.

I wouldn't recommend going against a person's physician. None of us are

doctors here (well, except for one or two who have chosen to identify

themselves as such).

However, I've looked at the ingredients in Ensure.

WATER, SUGAR (SUCROSE), CORN MALTODEXTRIN, MILK PROTEIN CONCENTRATE,

SOY OIL, SHORT-CHAIN FRUCTOOLIGOSACCHARIDES, CANOLA OIL, LESS THAN 0.5%

OF: SOY PROTEIN CONCENTRATE, CORN OIL, POTASSIUM CITRATE, NATURAL AND

ARTIFICIAL FLAVOR, MAGNESIUM PHOSPHATE, SODIUM CITRATE, SOY LECITHIN,

CALCIUM PHOSPHATE, MAGNESIUM CHLORIDE, SALT (SODIUM CHLORIDE), CHOLINE

CHLORIDE, ASCORBIC ACID, CARRAGEENAN, POTASSIUM CHLORIDE, FERROUS

SULFATE, DL-ALPHA-TOCOPHERYL ACETATE, ZINC SULFATE, NIACINAMIDE, CALCIUM

PANTOTHENATE, MANGANESE SULFATE, CUPRIC SULFATE, VITAMIN A PALMITATE,

THIAMINE CHLORIDE HYDROCHLORIDE, PYRIDOXINE HYDROCHLORIDE, RIBOFLAVIN,

FOLIC ACID, CHROMIUM CHLORIDE, BIOTIN, SODIUM MOLYBDATE, POTASSIUM

IODIDE, SODIUM SELENATE, PHYLLOQUINONE, VITAMIN D3 AND CYANOCOBALAMIN.

CONTAINS MILK AND SOY INGREDIENTS.

CONTAINS MILK AND SOY INGREDIENTS; LACTOSE- AND GLUTEN-FREE.

There's PLENTY wrong with Ensure. You couldn't PAY me to drink it. It

is possible to make savory smoothies which have as much or more nutrition

than Ensure.

—

Marilyn

    New

Orleans, Louisiana, USA

    Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001

    Darn Good SCD Cook

    No Human Children

    Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund

    Babette the Foundling Beagle

       

[Guest guest]

never heard of vsl#3..........how did you find out it was illegal?It seems to be recommended by a lot of different doctors/people, but it has bifidus in it (I think?) which isn't SCD legal. Peace =)Alyssa 16 yo UC April 2008, dx Sept 2008SCD June 2009 (restarted)Azathioprine 75 mg 1x per dayPrednisone 30 mg 1x per day

[Guest guest]

I just have to say I look up to you all.......and I have to ask all

you out there who are familiar with SCD............why is the end of

the day the worse? when I have my supper, which is SCD safe, does my

body seem unsatisfied with what I fed it...and I seem to crave

something?...no sweet? but nuts or something fat.

I get this unsatisfied feeling after what seem to be perfectly

reasonable meals and not necessarily just at the end of the day. For

me, it's pretty clear-cut: I need more fat. Usually a spoonful of

coconut oil, nut butter, or regular butter takes care of it

nicely. Then I try to remember to use more fat at the next meal so

fat isn't my " dessert " .

[Guest guest]

wrote:

" I get this unsatisfied feeling after what seem to be perfectly

reasonable meals and not necessarily just at the end of the day. For

me, it's pretty clear-cut: I need more fat. Usually a spoonful of

coconut oil, nut butter, or regular butter takes care of it

nicely. Then I try to remember to use more fat at the next meal so

fat isn't my " dessert " . "

I get that same unsatisfied feeling and couldn't figure out what it was or why

one day I would have it and not the next. I makes perfect sense that it would

be fat since a couple parmesan crackers take care of the unsatified feeling for

me. Thanks for the good suggestions! And clearing up my confusion.

Terri S.

IBS

SCD - June, 2009

[Guest guest]

Intro should only be for 5 days. There is a helpful file in the file sections on

getting started with SCD. You could try some very ripe banana, beef patties, and

fish, beef broth, peeled cooked seeded zuchini. I tolerated acorn squash well in

the beginning. It was good with a little butter and honey drizzled on it.

PJ

>

> I was diagnosed with ulcerative colitis 2 years ago. I have taken Lialda and

Asacol, which have both made me feel very nauseous. I found the SCDiet 1 week

ago and started it on June 8th. I have started with the intro diet. I was

wondering how long one should stay on the intro diet and if there are any other

foods, other than chicken soup, yogurt, and dry curd cottage cheese, that one

can eat on the intro diet? My diarrhea is still pretty bad. I tried eating baked

apples, but they were not digested very well.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Try some of the recipes from pecanbread.com. If your son is not on the ASD

(austism) spectrum, he does not have to avoid the legal cow milk products like

the pecanbread site states. However, they have a bunch of kid friendly recipes.

My kids can eat anything too. I cook SCD for myself and let them eat additional

foods and side dishes as they like. I try to give them as healthy a diet as

possible at home- knowing they will eat out, at friends' houses, and in the

dorms. I personally would not have my child on SCD unless necessary for them,

although others on this board may prefer to have their entire family on SCD.

PJ

>

> Hello. I am new to SCD ... still on information overload from reading BTVC,

perusing websites, analyzing how to implement best for myself while not extreme

for my 11-year-old son (who apparently has no trouble eating anything).

>

> Questions I have:

>

> 1) What do 11-year-old boys like to eat for breakfast that doesn't involve

pancakes made from almond flour? He doesn't like how they taste; have thought

about making muffins instead (need to get a muffin pan). What about lunches

that can be transported easily to school? He's a very picky eater and quit

taking lunches with him after a couple of months; would just wait to eat when he

got home.

>

> 2) When making SCD yogurt, how many minutes to keep the milk heated to 185

degrees in order to kill off bacteria?

>

> 3) Is anyone also following Eat Right 4 Your Type (ABO blood type evolution

diet) and cross-comparing allowed foods with SCD? ER4YT says blood type A (me)

ideal for vegetarian (lots of grains, soy, cultured dairy) ... have always had a

hard time with red meat and most dairy kicks up too much mucous. I already gave

up most grains (rice, corn, oats) months ago, but go back and forth with wheat

(bread). ER4YT says cheeses like feta and mozzarella okay, but not hard like

cheddar -- SCD is the opposite. They match on yogurt and farmers cheese, so

that's good. And I can still eat chicken, turkey and eggs.

>

> That's all for now ... am sure more questions will arise later.

>

> Thanks in advance for your help,

> Margaret

>

[Guest guest]

1) I like omelets for breakfast. Smoothies with raw eggs are good too. Sometimes

I'll take whatever veggies are left over from the night before and scramble them

in eggs with cheese. Has he tried the banana pancakes without almond flour or

have you tried coconut flour instead. I tolerate coconut flour much better than

almond. Another yummy breakfast is hot cereal:

http://www.scdrecipe.com/recipes-breakfast/hot-cereal/ (though I don't tolerate

it anymore). www.scdietrecipe.com has a lot of breakfast ideas. As for lunch, if

he likes soups or casseroles, you can get a thermos and send him some for lunch.

It should still be hot when he takes lunch. Anything hot in a thermos is easy to

transport to school. I don't know what he's eating though and that would make it

easier to suggest. Fresh fruit salad to go with the soup/casserole?

2) I go 5 minutes.

3) Nope. I've never read the book but I know people on the list have commented

that if they ate for their blood type, they would be super sick (Marilyn is one

of them) so I never pursued it.

Misty Kimble

CD - no meds

SCD - Jan 2008

> 1) What do 11-year-old boys like to eat for breakfast that doesn't involve

pancakes made from almond flour? He doesn't like how they taste; have thought

about making muffins instead (need to get a muffin pan). What about lunches

that can be transported easily to school? He's a very picky eater and quit

taking lunches with him after a couple of months; would just wait to eat when he

got home.

>

> 2) When making SCD yogurt, how many minutes to keep the milk heated to 185

degrees in order to kill off bacteria?

>

> 3) Is anyone also following Eat Right 4 Your Type (ABO blood type evolution

diet)?

> Margaret

[Guest guest]

At 10:09 PM 7/21/2010, you wrote:

3) Is anyone also following Eat

Right 4 Your Type (ABO blood type evolution diet) and cross-comparing

allowed foods with SCD? ER4YT says blood type A (me) ideal for vegetarian

(lots of grains, soy, cultured dairy) ... have always had a hard time

with red meat and most dairy kicks up too much mucous. I already gave up

most grains (rice, corn, oats) months ago, but go back and forth with

wheat (bread). ER4YT says cheeses like feta and mozzarella okay, but not

hard like cheddar -- SCD is the opposite. They match on yogurt and

farmers cheese, so that's good. And I can still eat chicken, turkey and

eggs.

I've read ER4YT.

And if I ate the diet for type As, it would kill me. Literally.

Combining diets can be difficult, and is not recommended. There's no

requirement for eating red meat. Mozzarella is loaded with lactose

because of the way it's produced -- substitute provolone, instead.

Feta is okay occasionally after at least six months of healing.

—

Marilyn

New

Orleans, Louisiana, USA

Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001

Darn Good SCD Cook

No Human Children

Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund

Babette the Foundling Beagle

[Guest guest]

I have 12 year old boy. We excluded eggs now but we used to make great fritatas. With brokkoli and allowed cheeses, peppers and olives, spinach and onion etc. They are great breakfast.

To go:

Soups

Various lazagna like dishes made with farmers cheese, vegetables and cheeses.

Cookies or crackers - they are extremely filling.

Yogurt with fruit

Best of luck. The diet gets easier and it is really great food although I never learned to make pancakes

To: BTVC-SCD Sent: Wed, July 21, 2010 11:09:18 PMSubject: New to SCD

Hello. I am new to SCD ... still on information overload from reading BTVC, perusing websites, analyzing how to implement best for myself while not extreme for my 11-year-old son (who apparently has no trouble eating anything).Questions I have:1) What do 11-year-old boys like to eat for breakfast that doesn't involve pancakes made from almond flour? He doesn't like how they taste; have thought about making muffins instead (need to get a muffin pan). What about lunches that can be transported easily to school? He's a very picky eater and quit taking lunches with him after a couple of months; would just wait to eat when he got home.2) When making SCD yogurt, how many minutes to keep the milk heated to 185 degrees in order to kill off bacteria?3) Is anyone also following Eat Right 4 Your Type (ABO blood type evolution diet) and cross-comparing allowed foods with SCD? ER4YT says blood type A (me) ideal for vegetarian (lots

of grains, soy, cultured dairy) ... have always had a hard time with red meat and most dairy kicks up too much mucous. I already gave up most grains (rice, corn, oats) months ago, but go back and forth with wheat (bread). ER4YT says cheeses like feta and mozzarella okay, but not hard like cheddar -- SCD is the opposite. They match on yogurt and farmers cheese, so that's good. And I can still eat chicken, turkey and eggs.That's all for now ... am sure more questions will arise later.Thanks in advance for your help,Margaret

[Guest guest]

I don't follow it specifically but I found that I fell into eating that way on

my own. It's interesting because it describes types of exercise for your type

and social activities for your type and I fit almost everything! It's like the

section on my blood type was written just for me - crazy!

Stacey

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> > 3) Is anyone also following Eat Right 4 Your Type (ABO blood type evolution

diet)?

>

> > Margaret

>

[Guest guest]

Hi, Stacey. That pretty much describes my experience, too, and the science

behind it holds up for me. Even if I had never heard of ER4YT, 47+ years

personal experience says my body does NOT handle red meat or hard cheeses well

(blood type A) and I would be focusing more on the other SCD foods (yogurt,

chicken, etc.) My plan right now is to combine ER4YT with SCD, as there are

plenty of approved / legal foods that meet both programs. I'm not gonna starve

LOL.

Thanks for your reply,

~Margaret

>

> I don't follow it specifically but I found that I fell into eating that way on

my own. It's interesting because it describes types of exercise for your type

and social activities for your type and I fit almost everything! It's like the

section on my blood type was written just for me - crazy!

> Stacey

>

> ----

> > > 3) Is anyone also following Eat Right 4 Your Type (ABO blood type

evolution diet)?

> >

> > > Margaret

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Not me - some of it has made sense for me. But not all of it by far.

I'm supposed to eat pasta, rice, soy, no meat and exercise like

a wimp.

Mara

ul 22, 2010, at 1:49 PM, hello2spirit@... wrote:

> Hi, Stacey. That pretty much describes my experience, too, and the science

behind it holds up for me. Even if I had never heard of ER4YT, 47+ years

personal experience says my body does NOT handle red meat or hard cheeses well

(blood type A) and I would be focusing more on the other SCD foods (yogurt,

chicken, etc.) My plan right now is to combine ER4YT with SCD, as there are

plenty of approved / legal foods that meet both programs. I'm not gonna starve

LOL.

>

> Thanks for your reply,

> ~Margaret

>

>

>>

>> I don't follow it specifically but I found that I fell into eating that way

on my own. It's interesting because it describes types of exercise for your

type and social activities for your type and I fit almost everything! It's like

the section on my blood type was written just for me - crazy!

>> Stacey

>>

>> ----

>>>> 3) Is anyone also following Eat Right 4 Your Type (ABO blood type evolution

diet)?

>>>

>>>> Margaret