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In a message dated 10/5/01 7:57:46 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

duodenalswitch writes:

<< You can

ruin the surgery by grazing all day long, but if you stick to meals and 1-2

snacks, you should be fine. >>

I have seen lots of folks here ask if they can ruin or out-eat the surgery.

I have never seen anyone tell them " yes " they could. All I have seen is

protein first, then whatever you have room for. I have not heard anything

against grazing all day long, either, or that you have to eat only meals and

can't snack. Anyone who is post-op care to comment on this and clairify it

for me?

Carole

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From what I understand, if you eat all day long you can out-eat the surgery.

From what I have experienced, that would be very hard to do. I think I would

have to work just as hard at ruining surgery as I did trying to lose weight

pre-op. Anything is possible, but some things are easier than others.

Kathy M.

DS 7/19/01

213 pre-op

160 today

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Protein is needed for life. You don't eat protein you become

malnourished and become very ill. You won't be concerned about

outeating the DS, you will be concerned about the IV infusions you

will be having, and the swelling you will have in your extremities.

in Seattle

- In duodenalswitch@y..., MsMystic1@a... wrote:

> In a message dated 10/5/01 7:57:46 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

> duodenalswitch@y... writes:

>

> << You can

> ruin the surgery by grazing all day long, but if you stick to

meals and 1-2

> snacks, you should be fine. >>

> I have seen lots of folks here ask if they can ruin or out-eat the

surgery.

> I have never seen anyone tell them " yes " they could. All I have

seen is

> protein first, then whatever you have room for. I have not heard

anything

> against grazing all day long, either, or that you have to eat only

meals and

> can't snack. Anyone who is post-op care to comment on this and

clairify it

> for me?

> Carole

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Carole,

From what I understand, you can't out-eat the surgery unless you

are determined to do so and make yourself sick OR you eat

nothing but sugar candy and fruit juice for months and months.

Either way, you cannot eat as much as you used to because of

the size of the stomach and you won't absorb as much as you

eat because of the switch. Another way to look at it is that you

can eat things that will cause you to gain weight, but it will never

be like it was before the surgery.

Sugar is a pain because the DS surgery does NOTHING to help

with the malabsorption of simple-sugars (plain sugar, candy,

juices, etc). The absorption of simple-sugars starts in your

mouth and mostly ends ends in the stomach...hence, the " sugar

rush " feeling. :) The intestines, where all the malabsorption

takes place (or doesn't take place, depending on how you look at

it) are not needed for simple-sugar absorption.

Dr. R's nurse related a story of a post-op patient who lost 100+

lbs and THEN switched from diet soda to regular soda (I think he

was a soda company employeed) and over the course of a year,

he'd gained 15lbs. I don't know what % of his total excess

weight loss that 15lbs was, but just like before, losing is harder

than gaining.

The idea about " protein first " makes sense and makes it very

difficult to sabotage. If you eat a few bites of chicken, some

complex-carbs (rice, taters, etc), you're not going to have room

for handfuls of butterscotch candy!

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<< You can

ruin the surgery by grazing all day long, but if you stick to meals and 1-2

snacks, you should be fine. >>

I have seen lots of folks here ask if they can ruin or out-eat the surgery.

I have never seen anyone tell them " yes " they could>>

I'm only 5 1/2 months post op so I don't have first hand knowledge, but I

was told by the doctor's nutritionist that this is possible. It isn't easy,

since the only thing that gets absorbed 100% is sugar, is you graze

constantly on sugar and carb treats all day, you can regain.

Rita Black

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