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diabetics

Hi guys,

I have a question for you all. I know that this is a different kind of

diabetes, the kind that you get at a later age. Anyway, my mom called and her

sugar levels are up to 500. Now, I am thinking that this is not good. She said

she is doing her shots like she is supposed to.

Anyway, heres my question for you all that are more educated than me on the

subject. Are there any foods that are easy to make, not overly time consuming &

within a budget. I would say that her biggest problem is that she eats out

alot, like tonight - pizza. She works at a convenience store, manager, works

all kinds of hours. Lack of sleep may play a part.

I am hoping you all will be the experts on this. ANy tips would be

appreciated. Even anything other than the food thing that could help. I am at

a loss.

Vondie

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By now I am an expert on diabetes and have a few questions for you to

help me answer the ones that you asked. Is this a CF diabetes? The

shots are insulin I presume. What is her carb to insulin ratio? How

much carbs does she eat in an average meal? And how often does she

test her blood sugars/? These are important questions, and will help

me guide you a bit with a food guide. I have read a lot about both

CFRD and Type 1 and Type 2 diabetes. So hopefully I will be able to

guide you a lot. I would be happy to share what I know with you.

Natalia

24 w CF

> Hi guys,

>   I have a question for you all.  I know that this is a different kind

> of diabetes, the kind that you get at a later age.  Anyway, my mom

> called and her sugar levels are up to 500.  Now, I am thinking that

> this is not good.  She said she is doing her shots like she is

> supposed to. 

>   Anyway, heres my question for you all that are more educated than me

> on the subject.  Are there any foods that are easy to make, not overly

> time consuming & within a budget.  I would say that her biggest

> problem is that she eats out alot, like tonight - pizza.  She works at

> a convenience store, manager, works all kinds of hours.  Lack of sleep

> may play a part. 

>   I am hoping you all will be the experts on this.  ANy tips would be

> appreciated.  Even anything other than the food thing that could

> help.  I am at a loss. 

>   Vondie

>

>

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Natalia,

Ok, no this is not cf diabetes. I dont really know the exact name of it,

adult onset, possibly. Here is the deal, I live in Missouri, she lives in

Texas. My baby sis lives ther with our mom. Apparently my mother isnt

doing anything right. She doesnt eat regular meals, she snacks around and

eats out alot. What is the carb to insulin ration thing? I have no idea

about any of this. All I know is that she called and said her level is

staying up (500+) and she cant get it down. She is seeing the doc

tommorrow.

When I talk to her about eating right, she says- I dont have time to make

meals. She says things like, if I ate all the time and did shots every time

I ate I would be a pin cushion.

Basically, mt mom has always been an active person, working 2 & 3 jobs at a

time. She doesnt eat or sleep right. And according to my sis she is

taking, fat stackers and drinking go go juice. I am quite sure that it isnt

good for her.

Mom asked me if I knew any quick meals she could make and wouldnt bust a

budget. She doesnt have time to sit and do it all.

I guess this means she isnt doing anything right.

I will ask her about the things you mentioned.

Thank you,

Vondie

Re: diabetics

> By now I am an expert on diabetes and have a few questions for you to

> help me answer the ones that you asked. Is this a CF diabetes? The

> shots are insulin I presume. What is her carb to insulin ratio? How

> much carbs does she eat in an average meal? And how often does she

> test her blood sugars/? These are important questions, and will help

> me guide you a bit with a food guide. I have read a lot about both

> CFRD and Type 1 and Type 2 diabetes. So hopefully I will be able to

> guide you a lot. I would be happy to share what I know with you.

>

> Natalia

> 24 w CF

>

>

> > Hi guys,

> > I have a question for you all. I know that this is a different kind

> > of diabetes, the kind that you get at a later age. Anyway, my mom

> > called and her sugar levels are up to 500. Now, I am thinking that

> > this is not good. She said she is doing her shots like she is

> > supposed to.

> > Anyway, heres my question for you all that are more educated than me

> > on the subject. Are there any foods that are easy to make, not overly

> > time consuming & within a budget. I would say that her biggest

> > problem is that she eats out alot, like tonight - pizza. She works at

> > a convenience store, manager, works all kinds of hours. Lack of sleep

> > may play a part.

> > I am hoping you all will be the experts on this. ANy tips would be

> > appreciated. Even anything other than the food thing that could

> > help. I am at a loss.

> > Vondie

> >

> >

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This is the advise that I can offer.

Diabetes is Diabetes. I have the CF kind, but I take insulin, and the

mechanism is the same for us all. The only difference is the diet that

I have is different from hers. But the way insulin reacts to our

bodies works in the same manner. Having a high blood sugar can be

'fixed' to a stable level in three ways: insulin doses, adjusting carb

intake, and exercise. Now the card to insulin ratio is how much ratio

you need to cover the carbs that you intake. Since all carbs become

sugar in the blood, we count them only, not what type of sugar content

is has. This makes insulin adjustment easy, but it takes some work at

first. So this is what I did, and what is taught in diabetic clinics,

record meals, insulin intake and blood glucose levels over 7 days. Eat

breakfast, lunch and dinner. Record Blood Sugar reading before meal,

how much insulin you took, and how many carbs you ate. then measure

Blood sugar 2 hours later. Measure sugars every 2 hours, to see that

you don't go low, and to get an indication if you are taking enough

insulin. Now carb counting is something that you have to get good at.

Get a book, and figure out carbs in meals. Boxed foods are easy since

they tell you the exact carb count. Each day, adjust insulin until you

cover the food and get a healthy blood sugar. Keep adjusting in small

increments so that you don't experience lows. they are dangerous and

should be monitored.

After the 7 days you will be able to calculate a ratio of how much

insulin you took to cover a certain number of carbs. For example, it

took 10 units insulin to cover 100g of carb. So the ratio is 1to10.

Next time you eat 100g of carb (no matter what the food is, as long as

its 100 grams - this is when this gets easy and the week of hard work

pays off) you take 10 units of insulin. Easy, and you will get the

same healthy readings.

Now I understand that your mom feels like a pin cushion, but her life

is at risk. My fingers hurt from all the testing I do each day, and I

have bruises on my belly from the shots. But the consequences are so

much more severe!!! She can go blind, lose limbs, have kidney

problems, fall into shock, the list goes on and on with high blood

sugars. It will not escape her if her sugars continue to rise. A

couple of shots is a small price to pay, and its something that is

manageable if the initial work is done. If she likes to go out, there

are lists that tell you the exact carb count in all types of fast food

places and restaurants. That's something that I can send to you, just

let me know.

May be if you understand the process you can teach your mom. So lets

keep talking. I can go through this stuff in more detail intil you

feel comfortable with it.

Natalia

24 w CF and CFRD

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Vondie,

I have gestational diabetes at the moment and I did with my last baby as

well. Here are a few suggestions of things I eat. I have to cut out sugar

and restrict carbs. i am not allowed more than 6 of bread incl. pasta and

potatoes/fruit/alcohol each day and its best to spread these out through the

day. i find eating lots of small amounts best. but she will need to speak

with her dr. about this.

meat and veges is good just be careful of some sauces

i don't have any problems with eggs

cheese, crackers / low fat dip

diet jelly, low fat custard, fruit sprinkle of coconut i put these in little

containers

small sponge cake with a little cream and strawberries

baked custard

scones or pikelets made with a little sweetener with diet jam

nuts and a few dried fruits be careful of over doing these

diet yoghurt

fruit smoothies

home made pizza but check the label of the tomato paste to make sure it

doesn't have too much sugar, chips cooked with spray on oil

fruit whip - fruit, diet jelly and vanilla yogurt whipped up

sugar free lollies, soft drinks, unsweetened carob

lots of health food shops have special products for diabetics incl.

chocolate but these can be expensive

i'm sure if you search diabetes you would find lots of recipes if your a

keen chef.

hope this is helpful

fiona mo jack 1 yr cf and expecting

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>Reply-To: cfparents

>To: <cfparents >

>Subject: diabetics

>Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2004 15:58:58 -0600

>

>Hi guys,

> I have a question for you all. I know that this is a different kind of

>diabetes, the kind that you get at a later age. Anyway, my mom called and

>her sugar levels are up to 500. Now, I am thinking that this is not good.

>She said she is doing her shots like she is supposed to.

> Anyway, heres my question for you all that are more educated than me on

>the subject. Are there any foods that are easy to make, not overly time

>consuming & within a budget. I would say that her biggest problem is that

>she eats out alot, like tonight - pizza. She works at a convenience store,

>manager, works all kinds of hours. Lack of sleep may play a part.

> I am hoping you all will be the experts on this. ANy tips would be

>appreciated. Even anything other than the food thing that could help. I

>am at a loss.

> Vondie

>

>

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Vondie,

500 is pretty scary! Maybe she needs a different kind of insulin? I

hope that she gets it under control quickly.

Gale

> Hi guys,

> I have a question for you all. I know that this is a different

kind of diabetes, the kind that you get at a later age. Anyway, my

mom called and her sugar levels are up to 500. Now, I am thinking

that this is not good. She said she is doing her shots like she is

supposed to.

> Anyway, heres my question for you all that are more educated than

me on the subject. Are there any foods that are easy to make, not

overly time consuming & within a budget. I would say that her

biggest problem is that she eats out alot, like tonight - pizza. She

works at a convenience store, manager, works all kinds of hours.

Lack of sleep may play a part.

> I am hoping you all will be the experts on this. ANy tips would

be appreciated. Even anything other than the food thing that could

help. I am at a loss.

> Vondie

>

>

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At 01:16 PM 4/30/2010, you wrote:

Are diabetics able to do SCD?

Whenever I make food it seems like nothing I make can be eaten by my

Uncle. I don't know much about diabetes, I just know that he tells me he

can't have something when I tell him what's in it (honey is of course one

of those ingredients). I'm not diabetic but there's a fair amount in my

family so I'm technically at risk and wondering if (god forbid) I do get

it what I would have to do in terms of SCD.

Absolutely they can!

Compare the amount of carbs in a flour blueberry muffin, made with

artificial sweetener. Then compare the amount of carbs in an SCD muffin,

sweetened with fruit and a small amount of honey.

My paternal grandmother died of complications of diabetes. So did my

paternal uncle. Whole bunch of aunts and cousins on that side with

those issues. <wry grin> And my Mom's side had the diverticulitis

and sleep apnea....

If your grandfather eats bread, potatoes, rice, etc., he's probably doing

more things to his body than eating the occasional fruit-sweetened

muffin.

Marilyn

New

Orleans, Louisiana, USA

Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001

Darn Good SCD Cook

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