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Hi Sue,

I started my son on the NuThera p5p last July. I recently switched to the

the nuthera w/o a & d and the cod liver oil pills. Our DAN doctor recommended

the switch because of some test results. For several days after the switch,

I saw some negative behavior. He is doing really good on the new vitamins.

I started the vitamins (full dose) the same week we went gfcf. Austin had a

major withdrawal and regression. A couple of months after we started the

diet and vitamins, I ran out of the vitamins for about 1 week. Austin

regressed without the vitamins. He became depressed and difficult to handle.

I haven't tried going without since because he is doing so well.

Here are a couple of web-sites that I found helpful:

http://www.autism.com/ari/editorials/vitb6.html

http://www.autism.com/ari/megson.html

Evelyn

Mom to Austin (recovered from pdd & hyperlexia) and (nt)

5.6 yr old twins

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> Message: 4

> Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2001 10:02:36 EDT

> From: JnSm5@...

>

Subject: Kirkman's Lab...

>

> Does anyone have their children/child on SuperNuThera? If so, please write

> me

> offlist or onlist and tell me what your experience has been with it. Thanks

> so much in advance for any information you can give me! Take care,

> Sue..

>

>

>

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Hi Sue,

I started my son on the NuThera p5p last July. I recently switched to the

the nuthera w/o a & d and the cod liver oil pills. Our DAN doctor recommended

the switch because of some test results. For several days after the switch,

I saw some negative behavior. He is doing really good on the new vitamins.

I started the vitamins (full dose) the same week we went gfcf. Austin had a

major withdrawal and regression. A couple of months after we started the

diet and vitamins, I ran out of the vitamins for about 1 week. Austin

regressed without the vitamins. He became depressed and difficult to handle.

I haven't tried going without since because he is doing so well.

Here are a couple of web-sites that I found helpful:

http://www.autism.com/ari/editorials/vitb6.html

http://www.autism.com/ari/megson.html

Evelyn

Mom to Austin (recovered from pdd & hyperlexia) and (nt)

5.6 yr old twins

In a message dated 10/27/01 1:42:57 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

> Message: 4

> Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2001 10:02:36 EDT

> From: JnSm5@...

>

Subject: Kirkman's Lab...

>

> Does anyone have their children/child on SuperNuThera? If so, please write

> me

> offlist or onlist and tell me what your experience has been with it. Thanks

> so much in advance for any information you can give me! Take care,

> Sue..

>

>

>

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I agree that the Nu thera w/o a & d is WONDERFUL (as oppposed to the super nu

thera which has too much crap in it, in my ever so humble opinion) Nu Thera

is hypoallergenic and pure. Then to add the cod liver oil with it is the

next best wonderful thing you can do and will give our kids what they need.

Kirkman's Lab...

>

> >

> > Does anyone have their children/child on SuperNuThera? If so, please

write

> > me

> > offlist or onlist and tell me what your experience has been with it.

Thanks

> > so much in advance for any information you can give me! Take care,

> > Sue..

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

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I agree that the Nu thera w/o a & d is WONDERFUL (as oppposed to the super nu

thera which has too much crap in it, in my ever so humble opinion) Nu Thera

is hypoallergenic and pure. Then to add the cod liver oil with it is the

next best wonderful thing you can do and will give our kids what they need.

Kirkman's Lab...

>

> >

> > Does anyone have their children/child on SuperNuThera? If so, please

write

> > me

> > offlist or onlist and tell me what your experience has been with it.

Thanks

> > so much in advance for any information you can give me! Take care,

> > Sue..

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

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My son couldn't tolerate the smell of SNT, let alone the taste. We

are very pleased with NuThera capsules (very small), along with CLO

and chewable C. We also made the mistake of starting with a full

dose instead of 1/4 dose. There was increased ADHD-like behavior for

about a week, then it stopped. Now the reverse is true, so I'm

careful not to run out of NuThera.

For those interested in trying SNT or NuT, note Kirkman's

recomendation to start low & build up. Had I done so, I could have

spared us a week of me yelling " stop that! " and almost giving up on

what has turned out to be a helpful product for my child.

> Hi Sue,

>

> I started my son on the NuThera p5p last July. I recently switched

to the

> the nuthera w/o a & d and the cod liver oil pills. Our DAN doctor

recommended

> the switch because of some test results. For several days after

the switch,

> I saw some negative behavior. He is doing really good on the new

vitamins.

>

> I started the vitamins (full dose) the same week we went gfcf.

Austin had a

> major withdrawal and regression. A couple of months after we

started the

> diet and vitamins, I ran out of the vitamins for about 1 week.

Austin

> regressed without the vitamins. He became depressed and difficult

to handle.

> I haven't tried going without since because he is doing so well.

>

> Here are a couple of web-sites that I found helpful:

> http://www.autism.com/ari/editorials/vitb6.html

> http://www.autism.com/ari/megson.html

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My son couldn't tolerate the smell of SNT, let alone the taste. We

are very pleased with NuThera capsules (very small), along with CLO

and chewable C. We also made the mistake of starting with a full

dose instead of 1/4 dose. There was increased ADHD-like behavior for

about a week, then it stopped. Now the reverse is true, so I'm

careful not to run out of NuThera.

For those interested in trying SNT or NuT, note Kirkman's

recomendation to start low & build up. Had I done so, I could have

spared us a week of me yelling " stop that! " and almost giving up on

what has turned out to be a helpful product for my child.

> Hi Sue,

>

> I started my son on the NuThera p5p last July. I recently switched

to the

> the nuthera w/o a & d and the cod liver oil pills. Our DAN doctor

recommended

> the switch because of some test results. For several days after

the switch,

> I saw some negative behavior. He is doing really good on the new

vitamins.

>

> I started the vitamins (full dose) the same week we went gfcf.

Austin had a

> major withdrawal and regression. A couple of months after we

started the

> diet and vitamins, I ran out of the vitamins for about 1 week.

Austin

> regressed without the vitamins. He became depressed and difficult

to handle.

> I haven't tried going without since because he is doing so well.

>

> Here are a couple of web-sites that I found helpful:

> http://www.autism.com/ari/editorials/vitb6.html

> http://www.autism.com/ari/megson.html

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In a message dated 10/27/01 6:12:06 PM Central Standard Time,

ejpickwick@... writes:

> http://www.autism.com/ari/megson.html

>

> Evelyn

>

Evelyn,

Are you familiar with Dr. Megson's work with autism? Do you know anything

about her? What is your opinion of anything that she has written in reference

with the autism spectrum? Thanks for all your helpful information! Take

care,

Sue..

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Hi Sue,

I was at the DAN conference were Megson was one of the presenters. What

she said made sense. She has had a lot of success with Cod Liver Oil. In my

opinion, it can't hurt to try it out. I am even thinking about giving it to

my son's NT twin brother.

According to Dr. Megson, " Those most at risk report a family history of at

least one parent with a pre-existing G-alpha protein defect, including night

blindness, pseudohypoparathyroidism or adenoma of the thyroid or pituitary

gland. "

In my family, my mom and sister have Grave's disease and my other sister has

Hoshimoto's (Thyroid problems). Also, I don't know if it is related, but I

am color blind. I really should have tried the cod liver oil sooner but

Austin has improved so much, I was reluctant to try new things with him.

In the last couple of days, he is even more social than usual. Also, his

attention is right on all of the time and he isn't as distractable. I really

think this is because of the cod liver oil.

Just a side note, it really is important to start out slow with these

vitamins. It was a huge mistake on my part to remove all gluten and casien

plus start up the vitamins-- full dose on the same day. Everyone suffered

from it ;-o

When giving the cod liver oil, I was concerned about the mercury. Kirkman's

is the only product I will use because they make sure that the cod liver oil

is free of mercury and pesticides. I trust them.

Wishing you success.

Evelyn

In a message dated 10/28/01 3:57:25 AM Pacific Standard Time, JnSm5@...

writes:

> Subj:Re: Re: Kirkman's Lab...

> Date:10/28/01 3:57:25 AM Pacific Standard Time

> From: JnSm5@...

> Reply-to: <A

HREF= " mailto:GFCFKids " >GFCFKids </A>

> To: GFCFKids

>

>

>

>

> In a message dated 10/27/01 6:12:06 PM Central Standard Time,

> ejpickwick@... writes:

>

>

> > http://www.autism.com/ari/megson.html

> >

> > Evelyn

> >

>

> Evelyn,

> Are you familiar with Dr. Megson's work with autism? Do you know anything

> about her? What is your opinion of anything that she has written in

> reference

> with the autism spectrum? Thanks for all your helpful information! Take

> care,

> Sue..

>

>

>

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This is our experience with several thousand families(start slow)

with the NuThera Concentrate capsules . NuThera is hypoallergenic and

rarely causes a reaction when you start slow (about 1/2 dose) and

then after a couple of weeks add up to a full dose. The product has

little or no taste and is very concentrated (a dose is 1/10th of a

teaspoon). The major difference with SNT is less vitamin C and E.

These vitamins take up a lot of room and we wanted to make the

NuThera concentrate as easy to take as possible. We have added a

NuThera companion to add to NuThera at a later time. BOth products

taken together are roughly to equal the SNT.

It is difficult to produce the liquid in Dr. Rimland's formula with a

good taste and a good smell. We have trial sizes in a couple of

flavors just to make sure that a child will tolerate. Many parents

find ingenious ways to mask the flavor and smell.

Thanks

Humphrey

Kirkman Labs

> > Hi Sue,

> >

> > I started my son on the NuThera p5p last July. I recently

switched

> to the

> > the nuthera w/o a & d and the cod liver oil pills. Our DAN doctor

> recommended

> > the switch because of some test results. For several days after

> the switch,

> > I saw some negative behavior. He is doing really good on the

new

> vitamins.

> >

> > I started the vitamins (full dose) the same week we went gfcf.

> Austin had a

> > major withdrawal and regression. A couple of months after we

> started the

> > diet and vitamins, I ran out of the vitamins for about 1 week.

> Austin

> > regressed without the vitamins. He became depressed and

difficult

> to handle.

> > I haven't tried going without since because he is doing so

well.

> >

> > Here are a couple of web-sites that I found helpful:

> > http://www.autism.com/ari/editorials/vitb6.html

> > http://www.autism.com/ari/megson.html

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,

will be 2 in February, and his DAN, Dr.

Baptist in Kansas, recommended that we give him 1000

IU vitamin A each day via cod liver oil. He said that

you have to read the label and see how much vit. A is

in it in order to figure out how much to give them.

Also someone asked if you have to build up to their

dosage, and I just wanted to say that our doctor did

not mention anything about that.

--- Foland wrote:

> I looked at cod liver oil and have read the

> reasearch papers-but isnt it a

> awful lot of vit A? Does that make anyone else

> nervous or am I just being

> strange? F

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I looked at cod liver oil and have read the reasearch papers-but isnt it a

awful lot of vit A? Does that make anyone else nervous or am I just being

strange? F

Re: Re: Kirkman's Lab...

> Hi Sue,

>

> I was at the DAN conference were Megson was one of the presenters.

What

> she said made sense. She has had a lot of success with Cod Liver Oil. In

my

> opinion, it can't hurt to try it out. I am even thinking about giving it

to

> my son's NT twin brother.

>

> According to Dr. Megson, " Those most at risk report a family history of at

> least one parent with a pre-existing G-alpha protein defect, including

night

> blindness, pseudohypoparathyroidism or adenoma of the thyroid or pituitary

> gland. "

>

> In my family, my mom and sister have Grave's disease and my other sister

has

> Hoshimoto's (Thyroid problems). Also, I don't know if it is related, but

I

> am color blind. I really should have tried the cod liver oil sooner but

> Austin has improved so much, I was reluctant to try new things with him.

>

> In the last couple of days, he is even more social than usual. Also, his

> attention is right on all of the time and he isn't as distractable. I

really

> think this is because of the cod liver oil.

>

> Just a side note, it really is important to start out slow with these

> vitamins. It was a huge mistake on my part to remove all gluten and

casien

> plus start up the vitamins-- full dose on the same day. Everyone

suffered

> from it ;-o

>

> When giving the cod liver oil, I was concerned about the mercury.

Kirkman's

> is the only product I will use because they make sure that the cod liver

oil

> is free of mercury and pesticides. I trust them.

>

> Wishing you success.

> Evelyn

>

>

>

> In a message dated 10/28/01 3:57:25 AM Pacific Standard Time,

JnSm5@...

> writes:

>

>

> > Subj:Re: Re: Kirkman's Lab...

> > Date:10/28/01 3:57:25 AM Pacific Standard Time

> > From: JnSm5@...

> > Reply-to: <A

HREF= " mailto:GFCFKids " >GFCFKids </A>

> > To: GFCFKids

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > In a message dated 10/27/01 6:12:06 PM Central Standard Time,

> > ejpickwick@... writes:

> >

> >

> > > http://www.autism.com/ari/megson.html

> > >

> > > Evelyn

> > >

> >

> > Evelyn,

> > Are you familiar with Dr. Megson's work with autism? Do you know

anything

> > about her? What is your opinion of anything that she has written in

> > reference

> > with the autism spectrum? Thanks for all your helpful information! Take

> > care,

> > Sue..

> >

> >

> >

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I looked at cod liver oil and have read the reasearch papers-but isnt it a

awful lot of vit A? Does that make anyone else nervous or am I just being

strange? F

Re: Re: Kirkman's Lab...

> Hi Sue,

>

> I was at the DAN conference were Megson was one of the presenters.

What

> she said made sense. She has had a lot of success with Cod Liver Oil. In

my

> opinion, it can't hurt to try it out. I am even thinking about giving it

to

> my son's NT twin brother.

>

> According to Dr. Megson, " Those most at risk report a family history of at

> least one parent with a pre-existing G-alpha protein defect, including

night

> blindness, pseudohypoparathyroidism or adenoma of the thyroid or pituitary

> gland. "

>

> In my family, my mom and sister have Grave's disease and my other sister

has

> Hoshimoto's (Thyroid problems). Also, I don't know if it is related, but

I

> am color blind. I really should have tried the cod liver oil sooner but

> Austin has improved so much, I was reluctant to try new things with him.

>

> In the last couple of days, he is even more social than usual. Also, his

> attention is right on all of the time and he isn't as distractable. I

really

> think this is because of the cod liver oil.

>

> Just a side note, it really is important to start out slow with these

> vitamins. It was a huge mistake on my part to remove all gluten and

casien

> plus start up the vitamins-- full dose on the same day. Everyone

suffered

> from it ;-o

>

> When giving the cod liver oil, I was concerned about the mercury.

Kirkman's

> is the only product I will use because they make sure that the cod liver

oil

> is free of mercury and pesticides. I trust them.

>

> Wishing you success.

> Evelyn

>

>

>

> In a message dated 10/28/01 3:57:25 AM Pacific Standard Time,

JnSm5@...

> writes:

>

>

> > Subj:Re: Re: Kirkman's Lab...

> > Date:10/28/01 3:57:25 AM Pacific Standard Time

> > From: JnSm5@...

> > Reply-to: <A

HREF= " mailto:GFCFKids " >GFCFKids </A>

> > To: GFCFKids

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > In a message dated 10/27/01 6:12:06 PM Central Standard Time,

> > ejpickwick@... writes:

> >

> >

> > > http://www.autism.com/ari/megson.html

> > >

> > > Evelyn

> > >

> >

> > Evelyn,

> > Are you familiar with Dr. Megson's work with autism? Do you know

anything

> > about her? What is your opinion of anything that she has written in

> > reference

> > with the autism spectrum? Thanks for all your helpful information! Take

> > care,

> > Sue..

> >

> >

> >

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