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Hi SHerrie,

I woke up to your post this morning and it was very moving. Poor

babies...and at the same time I am so so so glad you started the diet. I

started the diet with my son just over one year ago and the progress you are

going to see will continue long into the future...as it sounds as though he

really needs this diet!

When you first begin the diet, for some kids, slip ups are VERY obvious.

You may want to buy some enzymaid from Kikman labs nd open the capsule and

put it in some juice when you think he has had an infraction. Make him

drink it and do this for a few days after as the slip can affect his body

for more than a short period.

As you heal your sons gut , with time, it seems that an occassional slip for

many people may suck so to speak but it isnt as traumatic...or it may not

show itself as much at all...esp if you get that enzyme in. Dont be fooled

though, that doesnt mean an enzyme cures it or that a little more gluten or

casein wont hurt him.

Congratulations to finding one of your keys and I wish you the very best

results!! Hang in there Mommy, :)

Is this my kid?

Can this be a whole new world that is opening up to me? Am I about to be

introduced to my son for the first time since his adoption 5 years ago?

Please let it be so. I'm new here. My name is Sherrie. My little boy,

was 5 in June. He was diagnosed (rather skeptically) at the age of 3

with PDD. Because the diagnosis was half-hearted I tended to rock along a

bit longer than my nature usually allows me. I did not pursue answers.

Instead I waited to see if thy were right. He is now 5 and I cry when I

think that I " wasted " so much time. When I read about the hallucinogenic

effect of dairy and gluten on these little guys, my heart breaks to think of

the " treats " I offered my son that were turning his world into a whirling

tornado of confusion. Every cookie, granola bar, and milkshake have haunted

me. One week ago yesterday my husband and I read Karyn Seroussi's book and

one week ago today we removed dairy and subsequently gluten from his diet.

The first five days: from bad to worse. Sleep walking every night (urinating

on walls and doors, thinking he was in the bathroom) ; Scooting his forehead

on the floor (something he has never done) ; Extreme stimming.

BUT, interspersed throughout the last two of those days were other things we

have never seen; getting up in the morning quietly (he usually stomps from

the time he gets out of bed) listening to a story being read even while

other children are playing in the same room; showing remorse for spilling a

drink; noticing and commenting on the clothes I was wearing; less wandering

and darting; more cooperative.

Yesterday was a wonderful day. (No sleepwalking the night before) He played

in the Mcs playground without once creating a need for us to apologize

to the other parents there. (A big thing!) When it came time to go home he

came when he was called, the first time! Wow.

Today, the scene: Breakfast. Mom and Dad looking hopefully at one another

that we are getting our precious little boy back. Big brother and little

brother munching away. Suddenly throws his arms into the air and

screams, jumps out of his chair and crashes to the floor with squeals. My

husband and I look on with horror (remember that one week ago this was

common behavior) We look quickly at his plate, minds racing to determine the

culprit. It didn't take long, I asked, " Did you cook his egg in butter? "

Ohhh, how I wish I had been the one to make this slip. My poor husband

looked as if he had unknowingly slipped his son poison. It brought him to

tears. He scooped up the little guy who was thrashing about and carried him

to the sofa and held him tightly, asking him for forgiveness. It has been 2

hours now and we see him coming 'back down " He is playing fairly quietly

with only an occasional outburst.

I am writing for several reasons. To introduce myself, to unload, to rejoice

and to ask a question. Obviously until we get really good at this, there are

going to be slips such as the one this morning. When such things happen, how

do you deal with the reaction. Do you just sit and watch, try to control it,

wait it out, or use some of the therapy techniques, like brushing or

swinging? Or does it really make any difference? We are homeschooling, and I

can see the potential of losing a whole day of school if a little butter

slips into his diet during breakfast. Is there some way to counteract the

effects so that they are minimal and not as distracting to the whole family'

s schedule?

I know I'll have loads more questions and I am very glad to find this list,

but for now I just need to know, like the old song in Camelot, " What do you

do while they're doing it? "

Sherrie

" The name of the Lord is a strong tower, the

righteous runs into it and is safe. " Proverbs 18:10

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Hi SHerrie,

I woke up to your post this morning and it was very moving. Poor

babies...and at the same time I am so so so glad you started the diet. I

started the diet with my son just over one year ago and the progress you are

going to see will continue long into the future...as it sounds as though he

really needs this diet!

When you first begin the diet, for some kids, slip ups are VERY obvious.

You may want to buy some enzymaid from Kikman labs nd open the capsule and

put it in some juice when you think he has had an infraction. Make him

drink it and do this for a few days after as the slip can affect his body

for more than a short period.

As you heal your sons gut , with time, it seems that an occassional slip for

many people may suck so to speak but it isnt as traumatic...or it may not

show itself as much at all...esp if you get that enzyme in. Dont be fooled

though, that doesnt mean an enzyme cures it or that a little more gluten or

casein wont hurt him.

Congratulations to finding one of your keys and I wish you the very best

results!! Hang in there Mommy, :)

Is this my kid?

Can this be a whole new world that is opening up to me? Am I about to be

introduced to my son for the first time since his adoption 5 years ago?

Please let it be so. I'm new here. My name is Sherrie. My little boy,

was 5 in June. He was diagnosed (rather skeptically) at the age of 3

with PDD. Because the diagnosis was half-hearted I tended to rock along a

bit longer than my nature usually allows me. I did not pursue answers.

Instead I waited to see if thy were right. He is now 5 and I cry when I

think that I " wasted " so much time. When I read about the hallucinogenic

effect of dairy and gluten on these little guys, my heart breaks to think of

the " treats " I offered my son that were turning his world into a whirling

tornado of confusion. Every cookie, granola bar, and milkshake have haunted

me. One week ago yesterday my husband and I read Karyn Seroussi's book and

one week ago today we removed dairy and subsequently gluten from his diet.

The first five days: from bad to worse. Sleep walking every night (urinating

on walls and doors, thinking he was in the bathroom) ; Scooting his forehead

on the floor (something he has never done) ; Extreme stimming.

BUT, interspersed throughout the last two of those days were other things we

have never seen; getting up in the morning quietly (he usually stomps from

the time he gets out of bed) listening to a story being read even while

other children are playing in the same room; showing remorse for spilling a

drink; noticing and commenting on the clothes I was wearing; less wandering

and darting; more cooperative.

Yesterday was a wonderful day. (No sleepwalking the night before) He played

in the Mcs playground without once creating a need for us to apologize

to the other parents there. (A big thing!) When it came time to go home he

came when he was called, the first time! Wow.

Today, the scene: Breakfast. Mom and Dad looking hopefully at one another

that we are getting our precious little boy back. Big brother and little

brother munching away. Suddenly throws his arms into the air and

screams, jumps out of his chair and crashes to the floor with squeals. My

husband and I look on with horror (remember that one week ago this was

common behavior) We look quickly at his plate, minds racing to determine the

culprit. It didn't take long, I asked, " Did you cook his egg in butter? "

Ohhh, how I wish I had been the one to make this slip. My poor husband

looked as if he had unknowingly slipped his son poison. It brought him to

tears. He scooped up the little guy who was thrashing about and carried him

to the sofa and held him tightly, asking him for forgiveness. It has been 2

hours now and we see him coming 'back down " He is playing fairly quietly

with only an occasional outburst.

I am writing for several reasons. To introduce myself, to unload, to rejoice

and to ask a question. Obviously until we get really good at this, there are

going to be slips such as the one this morning. When such things happen, how

do you deal with the reaction. Do you just sit and watch, try to control it,

wait it out, or use some of the therapy techniques, like brushing or

swinging? Or does it really make any difference? We are homeschooling, and I

can see the potential of losing a whole day of school if a little butter

slips into his diet during breakfast. Is there some way to counteract the

effects so that they are minimal and not as distracting to the whole family'

s schedule?

I know I'll have loads more questions and I am very glad to find this list,

but for now I just need to know, like the old song in Camelot, " What do you

do while they're doing it? "

Sherrie

" The name of the Lord is a strong tower, the

righteous runs into it and is safe. " Proverbs 18:10

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Sherrie,

First of all, don't feel guilty for time lost. I understand that feeling

because I have experienced it as well. We cannot blame ourselves for what we

did not know in the past. What matters is that now you have the knowledge that

will greatly help your son. My son has been gfcf for 4 years now and is doing

wonderfully well, so I assure you are on the right path. The fact that you saw

some regression at first, is a sign that he does have food problems and the diet

will help him. As far as what to do for an infraction - I use Pepcid AC for an

infraction. It really seems to help my son. Others use enzymes and

Alka-Seltzer Gold. For years the family would suffer along with him when he ate

gluten and casein laden foods, with the Pepcid..there are no reactions. Welcome

to the group and if I can be of any help let me know.

Is this my kid?

Can this be a whole new world that is opening up to me? Am I about to be

introduced to my son for the first time since his adoption 5 years ago?

Please let it be so. I'm new here. My name is Sherrie. My little boy,

was 5 in June. He was diagnosed (rather skeptically) at the age of 3

with PDD. Because the diagnosis was half-hearted I tended to rock along a

bit longer than my nature usually allows me. I did not pursue answers.

Instead I waited to see if thy were right. He is now 5 and I cry when I

think that I " wasted " so much time. When I read about the hallucinogenic

effect of dairy and gluten on these little guys, my heart breaks to think of

the “treats†I offered my son that were turning his world into a whirling

tornado of confusion. Every cookie, granola bar, and milkshake have haunted

me. One week ago yesterday my husband and I read Karyn Seroussi’s book and

one week ago today we removed dairy and subsequently gluten from his diet.

The first five days: from bad to worse. Sleep walking every night (urinating

on walls and doors, thinking he was in the bathroom) ; Scooting his forehead

on the floor (something he has never done) ; Extreme stimming.

BUT, interspersed throughout the last two of those days were other things we

have never seen; getting up in the morning quietly (he usually stomps from

the time he gets out of bed) listening to a story being read even while

other children are playing in the same room; showing remorse for spilling a

drink; noticing and commenting on the clothes I was wearing; less wandering

and darting; more cooperative.

Yesterday was a wonderful day. (No sleepwalking the night before) He played

in the Mcs playground without once creating a need for us to apologize

to the other parents there. (A big thing!) When it came time to go home he

came when he was called, the first time! Wow.

Today, the scene: Breakfast. Mom and Dad looking hopefully at one another

that we are getting our precious little boy back. Big brother and little

brother munching away. Suddenly throws his arms into the air and

screams, jumps out of his chair and crashes to the floor with squeals. My

husband and I look on with horror (remember that one week ago this was

common behavior) We look quickly at his plate, minds racing to determine the

culprit. It didn’t take long, I asked, “Did you cook his egg in butter?â€

Ohhh, how I wish I had been the one to make this slip. My poor husband

looked as if he had unknowingly slipped his son poison. It brought him to

tears. He scooped up the little guy who was thrashing about and carried him

to the sofa and held him tightly, asking him for forgiveness. It has been 2

hours now and we see him coming ‘back down†He is playing fairly quietly

with only an occasional outburst.

I am writing for several reasons. To introduce myself, to unload, to rejoice

and to ask a question. Obviously until we get really good at this, there are

going to be slips such as the one this morning. When such things happen, how

do you deal with the reaction. Do you just sit and watch, try to control it,

wait it out, or use some of the therapy techniques, like brushing or

swinging? Or does it really make any difference? We are homeschooling, and I

can see the potential of losing a whole day of school if a little butter

slips into his diet during breakfast. Is there some way to counteract the

effects so that they are minimal and not as distracting to the whole family’

s schedule?

I know I’ll have loads more questions and I am very glad to find this list,

but for now I just need to know, like the old song in Camelot, “What do you

do while they’re doing it?â€

Sherrie

" The name of the Lord is a strong tower, the

righteous runs into it and is safe. " Proverbs 18:10

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Sherrie,

First of all, don't feel guilty for time lost. I understand that feeling

because I have experienced it as well. We cannot blame ourselves for what we

did not know in the past. What matters is that now you have the knowledge that

will greatly help your son. My son has been gfcf for 4 years now and is doing

wonderfully well, so I assure you are on the right path. The fact that you saw

some regression at first, is a sign that he does have food problems and the diet

will help him. As far as what to do for an infraction - I use Pepcid AC for an

infraction. It really seems to help my son. Others use enzymes and

Alka-Seltzer Gold. For years the family would suffer along with him when he ate

gluten and casein laden foods, with the Pepcid..there are no reactions. Welcome

to the group and if I can be of any help let me know.

Is this my kid?

Can this be a whole new world that is opening up to me? Am I about to be

introduced to my son for the first time since his adoption 5 years ago?

Please let it be so. I'm new here. My name is Sherrie. My little boy,

was 5 in June. He was diagnosed (rather skeptically) at the age of 3

with PDD. Because the diagnosis was half-hearted I tended to rock along a

bit longer than my nature usually allows me. I did not pursue answers.

Instead I waited to see if thy were right. He is now 5 and I cry when I

think that I " wasted " so much time. When I read about the hallucinogenic

effect of dairy and gluten on these little guys, my heart breaks to think of

the “treats†I offered my son that were turning his world into a whirling

tornado of confusion. Every cookie, granola bar, and milkshake have haunted

me. One week ago yesterday my husband and I read Karyn Seroussi’s book and

one week ago today we removed dairy and subsequently gluten from his diet.

The first five days: from bad to worse. Sleep walking every night (urinating

on walls and doors, thinking he was in the bathroom) ; Scooting his forehead

on the floor (something he has never done) ; Extreme stimming.

BUT, interspersed throughout the last two of those days were other things we

have never seen; getting up in the morning quietly (he usually stomps from

the time he gets out of bed) listening to a story being read even while

other children are playing in the same room; showing remorse for spilling a

drink; noticing and commenting on the clothes I was wearing; less wandering

and darting; more cooperative.

Yesterday was a wonderful day. (No sleepwalking the night before) He played

in the Mcs playground without once creating a need for us to apologize

to the other parents there. (A big thing!) When it came time to go home he

came when he was called, the first time! Wow.

Today, the scene: Breakfast. Mom and Dad looking hopefully at one another

that we are getting our precious little boy back. Big brother and little

brother munching away. Suddenly throws his arms into the air and

screams, jumps out of his chair and crashes to the floor with squeals. My

husband and I look on with horror (remember that one week ago this was

common behavior) We look quickly at his plate, minds racing to determine the

culprit. It didn’t take long, I asked, “Did you cook his egg in butter?â€

Ohhh, how I wish I had been the one to make this slip. My poor husband

looked as if he had unknowingly slipped his son poison. It brought him to

tears. He scooped up the little guy who was thrashing about and carried him

to the sofa and held him tightly, asking him for forgiveness. It has been 2

hours now and we see him coming ‘back down†He is playing fairly quietly

with only an occasional outburst.

I am writing for several reasons. To introduce myself, to unload, to rejoice

and to ask a question. Obviously until we get really good at this, there are

going to be slips such as the one this morning. When such things happen, how

do you deal with the reaction. Do you just sit and watch, try to control it,

wait it out, or use some of the therapy techniques, like brushing or

swinging? Or does it really make any difference? We are homeschooling, and I

can see the potential of losing a whole day of school if a little butter

slips into his diet during breakfast. Is there some way to counteract the

effects so that they are minimal and not as distracting to the whole family’

s schedule?

I know I’ll have loads more questions and I am very glad to find this list,

but for now I just need to know, like the old song in Camelot, “What do you

do while they’re doing it?â€

Sherrie

" The name of the Lord is a strong tower, the

righteous runs into it and is safe. " Proverbs 18:10

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We only use olive oil for cooking eggs. We use Fleischmann's unsalted marg

instead of butter. We try to only bring gfcf food into the house... makes it

much easier.

Dona Vickrey

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> I am writing for several reasons. To introduce myself, to unload, to

rejoice

> and to ask a question. Obviously until we get really good at this,

there are

> going to be slips such as the one this morning. When such things

happen, how

> do you deal with the reaction. Do you just sit and watch, try to

control it,

> wait it out, or use some of the therapy techniques, like brushing or

> swinging? Or does it really make any difference?

I use enzymes for my child, from this url

http://www.houstonni.com/

You can also use enzymes from this url

http://www.kirkmanlabs.com/

> We are

homeschooling,

I homeschool also, here is my family's story, if you are interested.

My son no longer qualifies as autistic.

http://home.pacbell.net/cscomp/myson.htm

Here is my homeschool section

http://home.pacbell.net/cscomp/parentin.htm#homeschool

Here is my therapy section

http://home.pacbell.net/cscomp/parentin.htm#therapies

If you go to my main parent information page, I have a lot of other

topics that might interest you also.

http://home.pacbell.net/cscomp/dmain.htm

Dana

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Sherrie,

You could try enzmes with his meals in case he eats something he shouldnt. go

to www.kirkmanlabs.com and read about Enzyme Complete with DPP-IV. everyone

makes mistakes. it happens and luckily its just a short setback and then we

get our kids back.

Best of luck to you from another adoptive mom of a beautiful almost 5 yr old

boy.

karen

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Sherrie -

Welcome to the list. You are doing a great thing for your boy - it is

hard work, but it will pay off.

It sounds like your husband is very much on board with you regarding

the diet - that is great. I am lucky to have an extremely supportive

husband who is totally in this battle against Autism with me. It

makes a big difference. I know how it feels to feed your

kid " poisons " - early on I bought the wrong kind of ricemilk that had

wheat in it - it said " wheat protein " right on the ingredient list,

and I missed it. I felt like banging my head against the wall! But,

thanks to a supportive husband, we just used it as a lesson to be

more diligent. Sounds like you guys have the same strength. Use this

as an inspiration to know that all your hard work is worth it. You

should feel really good about that. Some folks don't always see an

immediate reaction and it makes it really hard to continue to be so

diligent with the diet.

Also, don't beat yourself up about time lost. I sometimes go down

that road too and it is a waste of energy. I once heard somebody

say, " If you fall down when you are walking down the street, do you

just stay there on the ground? NO! You get up and start walking

again. " So - keep walking.

We are all in this together, we will all make mistakes, we will share

our setbacks and triumphs - just know that we are all still moving

forward.

One thing we did to make the diet easier for us was to make the

entire house GFCF. My husband and I eat what we want outside of the

house, but at home, everything is " safe " for my son. It just makes it

a user friendly environment and reduces stress. I remember going to a

family wedding early in this journey and there was an entire banquet

table set up for the buffet - it was filled with rolls and breads....

It scared the s**t out of me. I viewed it as a table full of poisons

that would take my son away from me. It was very stressful, but we

survived that wedding without any accidents. So - having our home be

a place that is safe takes away a lot of stress for us. Also, my

hubby and I discovered that he is severely lactose intollerant and I

have allergic reactions to milk. So it is good that we don't have it

at home.

Anyway - a long winded welcome to you and yours.

Moira

mom to Vico (4.5 ASD) and Culzean (18 months)

> Can this be a whole new world that is opening up to me? Am I about

to be

> introduced to my son for the first time since his adoption 5 years

ago?

> Please let it be so. I'm new here. My name is Sherrie. My little

boy,

> was 5 in June. He was diagnosed (rather skeptically) at the

age of 3

> with PDD. Because the diagnosis was half-hearted I tended to rock

along a

> bit longer than my nature usually allows me. I did not pursue

answers.

> Instead I waited to see if thy were right. He is now 5 and I cry

when I

> think that I " wasted " so much time. When I read about the

hallucinogenic

> effect of dairy and gluten on these little guys, my heart breaks to

think of

> the " treats " I offered my son that were turning his world into a

whirling

> tornado of confusion. Every cookie, granola bar, and milkshake have

haunted

> me. One week ago yesterday my husband and I read Karyn Seroussi's

book and

> one week ago today we removed dairy and subsequently gluten from

his diet.

>

> The first five days: from bad to worse. Sleep walking every night

(urinating

> on walls and doors, thinking he was in the bathroom) ; Scooting his

forehead

> on the floor (something he has never done) ; Extreme stimming.

>

> BUT, interspersed throughout the last two of those days were other

things we

> have never seen; getting up in the morning quietly (he usually

stomps from

> the time he gets out of bed) listening to a story being read even

while

> other children are playing in the same room; showing remorse for

spilling a

> drink; noticing and commenting on the clothes I was wearing; less

wandering

> and darting; more cooperative.

>

> Yesterday was a wonderful day. (No sleepwalking the night before)

He played

> in the Mcs playground without once creating a need for us to

apologize

> to the other parents there. (A big thing!) When it came time to go

home he

> came when he was called, the first time! Wow.

>

> Today, the scene: Breakfast. Mom and Dad looking hopefully at one

another

> that we are getting our precious little boy back. Big brother and

little

> brother munching away. Suddenly throws his arms into the air

and

> screams, jumps out of his chair and crashes to the floor with

squeals. My

> husband and I look on with horror (remember that one week ago this

was

> common behavior) We look quickly at his plate, minds racing to

determine the

> culprit. It didn't take long, I asked, " Did you cook his egg in

butter? "

> Ohhh, how I wish I had been the one to make this slip. My poor

husband

> looked as if he had unknowingly slipped his son poison. It brought

him to

> tears. He scooped up the little guy who was thrashing about and

carried him

> to the sofa and held him tightly, asking him for forgiveness. It

has been 2

> hours now and we see him coming `back down " He is playing fairly

quietly

> with only an occasional outburst.

>

> I am writing for several reasons. To introduce myself, to unload,

to rejoice

> and to ask a question. Obviously until we get really good at this,

there are

> going to be slips such as the one this morning. When such things

happen, how

> do you deal with the reaction. Do you just sit and watch, try to

control it,

> wait it out, or use some of the therapy techniques, like brushing or

> swinging? Or does it really make any difference? We are

homeschooling, and I

> can see the potential of losing a whole day of school if a little

butter

> slips into his diet during breakfast. Is there some way to

counteract the

> effects so that they are minimal and not as distracting to the

whole family'

> s schedule?

>

> I know I'll have loads more questions and I am very glad to find

this list,

> but for now I just need to know, like the old song in

Camelot, " What do you

> do while they're doing it? "

>

> Sherrie

> " The name of the Lord is a strong tower, the

> righteous runs into it and is safe. " Proverbs 18:10

>

>

>

>

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I dont think so -lactaid is made to help digest lactose in the milk-it would

not help with the protien which is casein you would need an enzymes made to

digest the casein protien not the lactose.F

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> Does anyone know if LActaid would work like the pepcid AC?

>

>

>

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Hi Sherrie,

It's Kirstin. (I've been meaning to write you back....hopefully I'll get a

chance to this weekend!!!) I am soooooooooooooo thrilled about the changes

you are seeing in !!!!!!! We have not begun the diet yet with Caleb -

I'm still trying to figure out just what direction I need to go in. We have

so many upheavals in our life as it is right now that experimenting with

diet (since it's hard to know which approach will work best for what child -

I want a hard and fast rule LOL!!!!!) is not what I'm wanting to do right

now! But I want to learn as much as I can in case the time comes for us to

go this route.

I tell you what, although Caleb isn't as old as is, I can understand

how you feel badly for the way things have been. But like others have said,

you can't work with information that you don't have! I am so thankful for

the internet when it comes to Caleb. If it hadn't been for my internet

friends, we never would have suspected that anything was even wrong with

Caleb. Since hs is not severe at ALL, we just though he was a little

quirky. Or airheaded. Or clutzy. ;-) But I mentioned a particular

behavior to some friends and they said, hmmmmmm you might want to get that

checked, especially since his language is so poor. I kind of blew them off,

but I did go ahead and get him a speech evaluation. The speech pathologist

noticed some behaviors and is the one who really got us going down this

road. But that's as far as we've gotten because of moves and such, and I

found out today that it will be about 6-8 more weeks before we can get a

full evaluation because of the backlog at the clinic! I'm so thankful for

the internet so I can learn more about PDD in the mean time AND possibly all

those " weird alternative " treatments that actually seem to hold more promise

than the typical ones in the medical world. I would be completely clueless

if it weren't for the internet and groups like this!!!!!

Love,

Kirstin <><

Wife to Bobby (7 years)

Momma to Grant (4.5), Caleb (3), Libby (1.25), and " Lil' Bit " (due 4/26/02)

I sell books kids love!!!

I'm an Usborne Books at Home Independent Consultant!

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>We try to only bring gfcf food into the house... makes it

> much easier.

Hey Dona, I hear you on this one! Elliot is home from school today because

Dad forgot to hide the goat cheese he brought into the house, at the same

time I was trying duck eggs to see if Elliot reacted as badly to those as he

does to chicken eggs. Who knows which did it, but El body-thumped a student

in PE yesterday, hit an aide who tried to stop him, and so on.... I would

have given enzymes but didn't know what had happened until he came home from

school with a notebook full of his sorry tale, at which point little brother

said " Remember how I called him a thief? Well that was because he was

eating goat cheese. " Auggh. Well I guess the verdict is, he is not ready

for gluten or casein even after nearly 18 months of chelation....

Lorilyn

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