Re: your thoughts on a subclass of kids

[Guest guest]

You pose a good question for which I personally do not have answers.

I do think it is noteworthy that even Karyn Seroussi's child had a

great deal of aba. I believe it said something in the book like

preschool aba each morning plus another 2 hours a night with her.

That adds up to quite a bit of intensive aba therapy. This is not to

discount her diet connections by any stretch. I am a real fan of her

book and we do the gfcf. I do think it adds weight to the fact that

as we remove some of the problems (allergies, vitamin deficiencies)

we have to then fill in with aba, etc.., I will read the responses

to your question with interest. (Does anyone know of kids who have

'recovered' or significantly improved to near recovery with only the

biomedical interventions, no aba or other behavioral therapy?)-Meggie

> Hi, all. I was wondering what your opinion is on kids who recover

by

> just doing educational interventions , most commonly ABA. for

> example Maurice's children. I wonder if they are of a

sub-

> type of autism where damage has been done to the brain, but the

> damage is not ongoing. so like a stroke patient, other parts of the

> brain take over. and then there are others, where due to

continuous

> damage ( opiates, yeast, and all the leaky gut indicators) ,

> educational interventions can only do so much unless the physical

> issue is solved.. What are your opinions?

[Guest guest]

You pose a good question for which I personally do not have answers.

I do think it is noteworthy that even Karyn Seroussi's child had a

great deal of aba. I believe it said something in the book like

preschool aba each morning plus another 2 hours a night with her.

That adds up to quite a bit of intensive aba therapy. This is not to

discount her diet connections by any stretch. I am a real fan of her

book and we do the gfcf. I do think it adds weight to the fact that

as we remove some of the problems (allergies, vitamin deficiencies)

we have to then fill in with aba, etc.., I will read the responses

to your question with interest. (Does anyone know of kids who have

'recovered' or significantly improved to near recovery with only the

biomedical interventions, no aba or other behavioral therapy?)-Meggie

> Hi, all. I was wondering what your opinion is on kids who recover

by

> just doing educational interventions , most commonly ABA. for

> example Maurice's children. I wonder if they are of a

sub-

> type of autism where damage has been done to the brain, but the

> damage is not ongoing. so like a stroke patient, other parts of the

> brain take over. and then there are others, where due to

continuous

> damage ( opiates, yeast, and all the leaky gut indicators) ,

> educational interventions can only do so much unless the physical

> issue is solved.. What are your opinions?

[Guest guest]

Hiyas all,

> Hi, all. I was wondering what your opinion is on kids who recover

by

> just doing educational interventions , most commonly ABA. for

> example Maurice's children. I wonder if they are of a

sub-

> type of autism where damage has been done to the brain, but the

> damage is not ongoing. so like a stroke patient, other parts of the

> brain take over. and then there are others, where due to continuous

> damage ( opiates, yeast, and all the leaky gut indicators) ,

> educational interventions can only do so much unless the physical

> issue is solved.. What are your opinions?

I do realize I am extremely late responding, and I do apologize for

that. My sis Jess falls in the hyperactive category of autism and has

kept me running all weekend in stopping her running in front of the

same cars that she has recently found some sort of visual stim in

[watching].

If subclasses did exist, it would explain why each child's actions are

so different and why each child requires different recovery processes.

If some doctor were to suddenly come out with a thesis on subclasses

of autism, it wouldn't be very strange, would it? What little

part of the medical society that did believe in alternative

treatments for autism would accept this as easily as the rest

of the medical society would accept a cure for cancer. Similar

subclasses have been found it other diseases and disorders; the whole

PDD family, diabetes, cancers, etc.

Heh... almost makes ya wanna be a doctor. :-)

As for how much effect ABA has, I personally think ABA is required in

order for the kid to 'catch up' on what he or she has missed. It's

hard for anybody to catch up on a few day's schoolwork, much less a

couple months or years of self-exploration and learning. ABA helps

bridge that gap, and for some kids, can even close that gap.

Grace

MD, USA