Guest guest Posted November 7, 2001 Report Share Posted November 7, 2001 I find this message extremely confusing! I can't tell who said what and figured I'd look for a signature at the bottom but the last line says something about enjoying the lingering glances from men. I know that this message was sent by you Steve and while I don't want to draw any conclusions about your sexual orientation, I'm guessing that the end of this message isn't written by you. If I am wrong in my assumption, my apologies, no offense intended. I didn't even try to wade through this whole message to try and figure out what's going on because it looks like a dispute between the two of you and figure it's none of my business!! I didn catch something though about a threat which really struck me as highly inappropriate. Regardless, I hope the two of you iron out your differences to your satisfaction. Jean. The fallibility of surgeons This will be a long-winded post, because I've had two DS surgeons, both of whom have generated some controversy. I've been bemused in recent months to see that both the surgeons with whom I signed up for the operationñHazem Elariny and Renñhave proved to be less than committed to the BPD/DS. They're both young surgeons who are still carving out identities for their practices. Elariny seems uncomfortable with malabsorption as a means to weight loss, as he is persuading more and more of those who come to him for the BPD/DS to opt for Elariny's stand-alone sleeve gastrectomy instead. Ren has become a proponent of the Lap Band since the FDA approved that procedure recently. I thought that meant that she too was beginning to prefer purely restrictive procedures to malabsorptive ones, until the recent news that she's embracing the BPD without the DS. Many people have asked me how I came to switch from Elariny to Ren. Last winter, on the night before my scheduled BPD/DS, Elariny called me at home to tell me that he had just reviewed the pre-op tests I had taken nearly two weeks earlier. Though I had no history of heart trouble, the EKG disclosed that I was a possible candidate for open- heart surgery, he said. While I was still recovering from the shock of this, Elariny went on that if by chance I got to have my operation the next day, I'd have to agree to have it open, rather than lap, because of adhesions. (I had had one previous abdominal surgery, so I didn't realize until later in the conversation that he'd confused me with a patient who'd had three Caesarean sections.) If I insisted on having it done lap, Elariny said, I'd have to be willing to wake up with " just the top " of the operation doneñwhich was my introduction to Elariny's stand-alone sleeve gastrectomy. He tried to sell it to me as a " superior " operation to the DS, but I was in no shape to process the information. Having received lots of sweet e-mails from fellow members of AMOS wishing me well, I thought it was only fair that I let them know that my surgery was canceled the next day as I lay on the table (Elariny did not show up at the hospital, choosing to deal with the anesthesiologist and the cardiologist by phone instead). It was the " surgery canceled " post to AMOS that brought about my parting from Elariny. He didn't appreciate my telling other pre-ops that he had waited until the night before my surgery to review the pre-op tests, and told me to find myself another surgeon. (He had also, by the way, left me on my own, without map, suggestion, or referral, to figure out whether in fact I had a heart problem. A stress test by a cardiologist found no abnormality and cleared me for surgery, meaning that had Elariny looked at my tests even a few days earlier, my operation could have proceeded on schedule.) What continues to baffle me is the reaction of my fellow Elariny patients to my news about Elariny. Many of the same people who had embraced me so warmly before, with the empathy that is so evident on this list and others, now attacked meñthere's no other word for itñfor saying such mean things about their savior. Elariny couldn't have acted like that, spoken like that; I must be a liar, I must be crazy. I was called a psycho on more than one Internet site. A member of this list with whom I had commiserated in a private e-mail used the matter as an excuse to betray a confidence. And then there were those who lined up to " take credit " for blowing the whistle on me. Each Elariny loyalist was serenely certain that it was her exposure of the " incriminating " Internet posting that had put me out on the street to find another surgeon. I suppose they all must have wanted me to post their names publicly, so that they could win the applause of their fellow Elariny devotees. I denied them the publicity; I didn't even respond to their e-mails. I simply deleted their messages and blocked their addresses. This surgery is no mere operation; it's the Holy Grail. Between the night of Elariny's dire pronouncement and the day I was cleared for surgery, I daydreamed about digging my " defective " heart out of my chest with a dull knife (if it was keeping me from having the surgery, I wanted to be rid of it). How could anyone believe that I had just " made up " a set of circumstances that caused me to have to start this emotionally draining process all over again? I was ready to go to Dr. Baltasar in Spain on a raft if I had to, rather than get in line for another U.S. surgeon. Dr. Ren's office penciled me in immediately, and for that and much more I am and will remain grateful to her. Some will say I should I have waited for a more experienced surgeon, and maybe they're right; but at that point, waiting was intolerable. To those who poo-poo the importance of bedside manner, I must say that the warmth and empathy that my family and I found in her was therapy in itself, a huge factor in getting us all to and through the surgery. And the BPD/DS she performed on me would appear at this point to be flawless. At nearly eight months post-op, I have had no pains, no gastrointestinal distress, no vitamin or mineral deficiencies, no problems of any sort, and my weight loss is proceeding on schedule. Deb Mullen's surgery with Dr. Ren preceded mine, but I heard nothing of her difficulties until well afterward. I'm not qualified to say whether what happened during Deb's surgery was inevitable due to Deb's anatomy, was the product of the surgeon's inexperience, or was some combination of the two. I don't need to know the answer to that to empathize with Deb's pain and feelings of betrayal and violation. That my experience with Dr. Ren was almost the antithesis of Deb's never led me to believe that Deb must be deluded, dishonest, or in need of psychiatric care. I will never say that Dr. Ren " couldn't " have made the statements Deb attributes to her, even though they were so different from what Dr. Ren has said to me. Deb still has my best wishes; Dr. Ren still has my gratitude. I am a firm believer in malabsorption as a means to permanent weight loss and therefore no fan of any purely restrictive surgery. Dr. Ren has taken heat on this list for advocating the Lap Band, but at least it offers enough restriction to do some good to the more moderately obese among us, it's adjustable, and its minimal invasiveness means that it will be undergone by those who otherwise would be unwilling to try any weight-loss surgery at all. I still doubt that it will prove to be the answer for a significant percentage of the morbidly obese. Dr. Elariny's stand-alone sleeve gastrectomy has come in for comparatively little criticism on this list, even though it tries to force the reduced stomach to carry the full burden of weight loss and maintenance, a function the BPD/DS's creator says it can't carry by itself. If we care that people who come to Drs. Ren and for the BPD/DS will now be offered only the BPD instead, we should care that Elariny is persuading increasing numbers of those who come to him for the BPD/DS to opt for the unadorned sleeve gastrectomy. Some of them (as I've seen on the Elariny list) even come away with the impression that the sleeve gastrectomy is " minor " surgery, which it is not. And if we care that the BPD leaves the patient without the pylorus, we should care that Elariny is reported on the DS- Elariny list to be offering his sleeve-gastrectomy patients the option of intentionally disabling the pylorus. If there has been any discussion of that on this list, I've missed it. Meanwhile, I'm loving malabsorption. It has set me free: free from stuffing myself beyond satiation today because I must begin the diet- to-end-all-diets tomorrow. No more dieting for me. I love the feeling of being satisfied with little food. I love being able to stop with " just one " of a sweet treat without feeling deprived. I feel smug when a package of cookies or candy lasts for weeks or just goes unopened. At eight months out, I've lost more than sixty percent of my excess weight. Bones are bursting out all over me. And I'm glorying in the unfamiliar lingering glances of men. ================ END FORWARDED MESSAGE =============== ------------------------------------------------------------ ---------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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