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Randy,

I agree with you. Actually there is already a warm and fuzzy site

with little or no information: DS_PostOP_Friends, so I think we

should keep this site as a place for open discussion rather than for

therapy. To me support does not imply cyber-hugs. Would I be

supporting a person considering RNY by telling them to go ahead with

it blindly? For me this is a place for exchanging information.

Having said that, I think it is important for everyone to keep things

cival and stay away from personal attacks.

I also agree with 's post about patients being attached to their

surgeons. In fact, I think it is a bit of a religious thing. The

parallels are amazing. Think about it: " He who belives me will be

given a new life " . For many their surgeon really is God. I don't

mean to be blasphamous, but consider what the Jews though of Jesus in

his day. The sense of being born again is strong with this surgery.

I want everyone to know that my dissapointment in and Ren's

decision are not a critacism of anyone who chooses them as surgeons.

And yes they have the right to do what they want in a free society.

But, I feel it is unethical to tell a patient two days before surgery

that her procedure is being changed! If they don't want to help new

patients, OK. But the idea that I can walk across the street and

find another DS surgeon ONLY applies in San Francisco! Also, it took

months for me to get a consultation appoitnment. I would have

considered it dishonest for a surgeon to accept an appointment under

the guise of being a DS surgeon and then finding out that they only

did the Scopinaro procedure. I would be pissed! I think surgeons

should grandfather in anyone who has made an appointment with them

prior to their public announcement that they will no longer do the

DS. Of course they should be given the option of doing the BPD only,

but if they want the DS they should get it. It sounds like Ren is

taking this sort of approach and I respect her for that, though I

would not choose her as a surgeon. I am really shocked at

's way of handling things.

Thank good Dr. Anthone is so commited to the DS!

Hull

> >I CAN'T TAKE THIS ANYMORE!! PLEASE TAKE YOUR FIGHTS OUT OF THE

> GROUP!!!!!!!!!!!

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> If the fights are going to be banned from this group, let's please

at least make another list called, say, DS-Fights. :)

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> I for one find the " fights " enormously informative. Although I

understand the support role of the list, as a pre-op I spend much

more time on reading disagreements about the finer points of the DS

and the surgeons performing them, than, say, e-mailed hugs.

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> It's often an impassioned viewpoint that is the most informative.

One can get statistics and dry facts from plenty of web sites. I'd

be missing an entire dimension of the subject without the (much

appreciated) willingness of list members to engage in heated

discussion.

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> --Randy

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