Re: Flat to Squarish to Roundovalish, WOW!

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Hi Leila,

Wow! Her head looks beautiful. Thanks for sharing. It is really

encouraging to see such improvement at this age after the band.

Best,

Kathy

L R wrote:

For those of you who wonder if the head keeps moving in

the right direction after the band is off, I believe it does. Maysa

has been out of her band almost three months and I am seeing her head

round out even more. Here is what I am seeing:

http://mymaysa.wordpress.com/2009/08/18/flat-to-square-to-round-wow/

I am so excited for her!

Leila,

Maysa, 19 mo, DOC band Grad 5.26.09

www.mymaysa.wordpress.com

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I just posted a comment on your blog. I totally see improvement and it gets me

excited for Sebastian's head. I am still keeping his band on, but it's good to

know their heads can get better as they grow. Good job! Oh I just posted new

pics of Sebastian on our blog and there are some profiles if you want to see the

progress of his head. They are baby mug shots, but I just so happened to get

some side pics. Let me know what you thing. You can be honest. His bad side is

the right side.

> Flat to Squarish to Roundovalish, WOW!

> Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 13:39:38 -0700 (PDT)

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> For those of you who wonder if the head keeps moving in the right

> direction after the band is off, I believe it does.  Maysa has been

> out of her band almost three months and I am seeing her head round

> out even more.  Here is what I am seeing:

> http://mymaysa.wordpress.com/2009/08/18/flat-to-square-to-round-wow/

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> I am so excited for her!

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> Leila,

> Maysa, 19 mo, DOC band Grad 5.26.09

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What is the link for your blog?

Flat to Squarish to Roundovalish, WOW!> Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 13:39:38 -0700 (PDT)> > > For those of you who wonder if the head keeps moving in the right > direction after the band is off, I believe it does. Maysa has been > out of her band almost three months and I am seeing her head round > out even more. Here is what I am seeing:> http://mymaysa.wordpress.com/2009/08/18/flat-to-square-to-round-wow/> > I am so excited for her!> > Leila,> Maysa, 19 mo, DOC band Grad 5.26.09> www.mymaysa.wordpress.com> > > >

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I definately see a difference as well. It looks like that growth spurt got things going in the right direction. I'm hoping that 's head will eventually get there as well. Like you say, it's not so much the width that matters, but the flat spots that really make it look less than normal. Of course, Nat's head growth has slowed way down so it may be months before I'll know whether we are getting more correction. I'll try and get updated pictures of in the next week or so.

Sometimes, I'd like to just let all of this go and move on, but we've just restarted the CST and I have an appointment with a chiro for this Saturday. According to his receptionist, he works with babies and plagiocephaly. I have 50 percent insurance coverage so I had to convince the pediatirican to give me a referral. She was surprised that I still wasn't happy with the head shape and hesitant to write it, but she did on the condition that I stop if the methods seemed to be too abrasive for a little one. I've heard that these appointments tend to be very short. I'm hoping that takes to them well. I'm going to give myself a time limit of stopping treatment somewhere between 2.5 and 3 years old no matter how much improvement we've had. I don't want to be doing this forever. If 's head ends up looking as good as Maysa's, I'd be thrilled. Congrats on the natural improvement.

Flat to Squarish to Roundovalish, WOW!

For those of you who wonder if the head keeps moving in the right direction after the band is off, I believe it does. Maysa has been out of her band almost three months and I am seeing her head round out even more. Here is what I am seeing:

http://mymaysa.wordpress.com/2009/08/18/flat-to-square-to-round-wow/

I am so excited for her!

Leila,Maysa, 19 mo, DOC band Grad 5.26.09

www.mymaysa.wordpress.com

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It's http://thewellsfamilypage.blogspot.com/

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> > Squarish to Roundovalish, WOW! Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 13:39:38

> > -0700 (PDT) For those of you who wonder if the head keeps moving

> > in the right direction after the band is off, I believe it

> > does.  Maysa has been out of her band almost three months and I

> > am seeing her head round out even more.  Here is what I am

> > seeing:

> > http://mymaysa.wordpress.com/2009/08/18/flat-to-square-to-round-wow/   I am

> > so excited for her!   Leila, Maysa, 19 mo, DOC band Grad 5.26.09

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Thanks, . To tell you the truth, I didn't expect Maysa's head to round out on it's own so quickly post DOC band. She is big baby though. As a matter of fact, nobody would say that she is 19 months old only. She looks more like a 2.5 year old. Everywhere I go, people ask me if she and her 3.5 year old sister, Soraya, are twins!

I keep Maysa off her back at night with that pony tail and at school during the day she sleeps on her tummy on her cot, so there is no pressure on her back expect when I am washing her hair in the tub or when I change her diapers...

Keep us posted on how the session with the chiro goes and how well takes to it, and keep taking pictures as well.

Besides keeping her off her back for as long as I can, I am done trying anything else. I will keep documenting her progress by taking pictures and writing about it, but other than that, I am done. Althoug, I do plan to go back to Plank one more time when she turns two (if she'll have be again) to see what her measurements are by then. After that, no more!

Leila,

Maysa, 19 mo, DOC band Grad 5.26.09

www.mymaysa.wordpress.com

From: <melanie.watson@...>Subject: Re: Flat to Squarish to Roundovalish, WOW!Plagiocephaly Date: Tuesday, August 18, 2009, 10:52 PM

I definately see a difference as well. It looks like that growth spurt got things going in the right direction. I'm hoping that 's head will eventually get there as well. Like you say, it's not so much the width that matters, but the flat spots that really make it look less than normal. Of course, Nat's head growth has slowed way down so it may be months before I'll know whether we are getting more correction. I'll try and get updated pictures of in the next week or so.

Sometimes, I'd like to just let all of this go and move on, but we've just restarted the CST and I have an appointment with a chiro for this Saturday. According to his receptionist, he works with babies and plagiocephaly. I have 50 percent insurance coverage so I had to convince the pediatirican to give me a referral. She was surprised that I still wasn't happy with the head shape and hesitant to write it, but she did on the condition that I stop if the methods seemed to be too abrasive for a little one. I've heard that these appointments tend to be very short. I'm hoping that takes to them well. I'm going to give myself a time limit of stopping treatment somewhere between 2.5 and 3 years old no matter how much improvement we've had. I don't want to be doing this forever. If 's head ends up looking as good as Maysa's, I'd be thrilled. Congrats on the natural

improvement.

Flat to Squarish to Roundovalish, WOW!

For those of you who wonder if the head keeps moving in the right direction after the band is off, I believe it does. Maysa has been out of her band almost three months and I am seeing her head round out even more. Here is what I am seeing:

http://mymaysa. wordpress. com/2009/ 08/18/flat- to-square- to-round- wow/

I am so excited for her!

Leila,Maysa, 19 mo, DOC band Grad 5.26.09

www.mymaysa. wordpress. com

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First of all I want to comment on Sebastian's chunky rolls. Oh my gosh, I don't know if I could stop from squeezing him if he was right here with me! Enjoy them while they last. My oldest, Soraya, was like this as a baby and has lost most of it already

I also looked at his head through the pictures you posted and while I don't think that anybody looking at your site would notice anything wrong with the way it is shaped, I can still see where his right and left profiles are different. In one of the pictures, I also see how his head is a bit shifted to his left side, so that tells me the asymmetry must still be visible.

If I were you, my goal would be to bring down his plagio number to 5mm or below. His CI could see some improvement as well. You want him in the 80's. I think that natural growth in the good direction can happen later on, but only if they are off their back 24/7 and he is still a little bit young for that.

He is only 7 months and I am sure that he still has foam left in his band. As long as the band is being shaved where it needs to be shaved, change will keep happening.

Keep taking pictures, and I can't wait to see/hear about his next starscan numbers.

Maysa, 19 mo, DOC band Grad 5.26.09

www.mymaysa.wordpress.com

From: Wells <jenniferwells@...>Subject: Re: Flat to Squarish to Roundovalish, WOW!Plagiocephaly Date: Tuesday, August 18, 2009, 7:50 PM

I just posted a comment on your blog. I totally see improvement and it gets me excited for Sebastian's head. I am still keeping his band on, but it's good to know their heads can get better as they grow. Good job! Oh I just posted new pics of Sebastian on our blog and there are some profiles if you want to see the progress of his head. They are baby mug shots, but I just so happened to get some side pics. Let me know what you thing. You can be honest. His bad side is the right side. >

Flat to Squarish to Roundovalish, WOW!> Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 13:39:38 -0700 (PDT)> > > For those of you who wonder if the head keeps moving in the right > direction after the band is off, I believe it does. Maysa has been > out of her band almost three months and I am seeing her head round > out even more. Here is what I am seeing:> http://mymaysa. wordpress. com/2009/ 08/18/flat- to-square- to-round- wow/> > I am so excited for her!> > Leila,> Maysa, 19 mo, DOC band Grad 5.26.09> www.mymaysa. wordpress. com> > > >

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Hi ,

I don't know if still nurses, but one tip is to nurse during

the chiro treatments.  My chiropractor says it really helps the

adjustments to have things moving with 's sucking.  The first time

was coincidence.  was not quite 1yr the first visit.  After the

almost hour long, hot car drive he was desperate to nurse.  I feel

comfortable with this since 's chiropractor is a mom herself.

Another thing is to ask the chiropractor whether there is still some

soft area in 's head.  's chiro said that he still has a lot

of soft area and this is good.  She told me that most, but not all,

children's heads are completely fused by 2 years.  She said some heads

aren't completely fused until 3 or 4.   There is some they can do even

after the bones are fused.  Some day when my almost 5 year old is out

of school, I plan to bring him in just to see what she says.  Turns out

he has some very mild plagio asymmetry too, though we would have never

realized it if it wasn't for 's condition.

I'm taking to the chiropractor twice this week instead of our

usual once.  After our last visit, my husband and nanny both saw the

improvement in the curvature. 

Let us know how the chiro visit goes.

Kathy, mom to 14.5 months, Starband 2.5 months for plagio

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definately see a difference as well. It looks like that growth spurt

got things going in the right direction. I'm hoping that 's head

will eventually get there as well. Like you say, it's not so much the

width that matters, but the flat spots that really make it look less

than normal. Of course, Nat's head growth has slowed way down so it may

be months before I'll know whether we are getting more correction. I'll

try and get updated pictures of in the next week or so.

 

Sometimes,

I'd like to just let all of this go and move on, but we've just

restarted the CST and I have an appointment with a chiro for this

Saturday. According to his receptionist, he works with babies and

plagiocephaly. I have 50 percent insurance coverage so I had to

convince the pediatirican to give me a referral. She was surprised that

I still wasn't happy with the head shape and hesitant to write it, but

she did on the condition that I stop if the methods seemed to be too

abrasive for a little one. I've heard that these appointments tend to

be very short. I'm hoping that takes to them well. I'm going to

give myself a time limit of stopping treatment somewhere between 2.5

and 3 years old  no matter how much improvement we've had. I don't want

to be doing this forever. If 's head ends up looking as good as

Maysa's, I'd be thrilled. Congrats on the natural improvement.

  

Flat to Squarish to Roundovalish, WOW!

 

For those of you who wonder if the head keeps moving in

the right direction after the band is off, I believe it does.  Maysa

has been out of her band almost three months and I am seeing her head

round out even more.  Here is what I am seeing:

http://mymaysa.wordpress.com/2009/08/18/flat-to-square-to-round-wow/

 

I am so excited for her!

 

Leila,

Maysa, 19 mo, DOC band Grad 5.26.09

www.mymaysa.wordpress.com

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Leila,

Oh yeah, I just looked at his head from above today and it's still significantly

flatter on the right side. From profile it's not as noticeable. He does have

some asymmetry going on but I did notice a lot of improvement though. His left

eye used to be smaller and now it's the same as the right one. His left side of

his face is not as full as the right, but they said it would fill out. It's

because the band presses on that side more to hold it. I definitely want to keep

the band on till we're in the 80's. We will definitely be getting a scan next

time on Aug 31st. I'll post pics and make sure I get all the numbers. I'm

certain he won't be done by then though. Sebastian only sleeps on his stomach

and rotates head direction. He has been doing this since 4 months and I was

THRILLED when he started to do this. He refuses to sleep on his back so I hope

that helps with everything. I won't have a ponytail to tie up on him so it

better

Ha, thanks! Sebastian's rolls are so cute and squishy. I will be sad when they

go away. No signs of that yet though.

Jen

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Hi Kathy,

Yes, is still definately still nursing, although these days, she tends to only do it in the house. We are trying to gently nudge her towards weaning, although she shows few signs of being ready for this. She nurses like a typical 10-month old. This chiro is a male, but hopefully he'll be okay with her nursing.

Can I ask more about what the chiro does? My pediatrician was very skeptical that it could possibly do any good. She said that she's not anti chiro and visits one herself, but said that unless they do something to the skull, she couldn'y see how it could help. Then, she said that she'd be okay with cranial manipulation if it didn't involve anything too significant. She stressed the concept of "do no harm." I think she's concerned that he will hurt and said that she is more vulnerable than most kids her age because she is so small. It was only after I promised that I'd stop the treatment if appeared to be in pain that she agreed to give me the referral. She asked me how it works and I had to admit that I only knew about it from my lists and didn't really understand it myself. We will have 2-year appointment a week after our first chiro visit so she said she wants to hear about it then.

I'm not sure what she has left in terms of soft spots. I do know that the neurosurgeon said that small heads (which she has) tend to close off earlier than larger heads. I've also heard that our heads don't completely close until we reach adulthood so there's room for small changes. We'll have to see what my chiro says. I know that there are people on the older plagio group with older kids that visit the chiro and say they are seeing improvement.

I did a little bit of looking around online and found some articles where they were talking about treating reflux with chiro. Maybe he can help with this as well. We did recently stop her Prevacid, but we're questioning whether she may still need it. She's been nursing nonstop (for comfort?), coughing, and getting up multiple times at night. She's not spitting up so we're kind of confused. I know that some people with food allergies also see a chiro, so I'm wondering what else he may be able to help us with.

On a side note, I was looking at 's profile this evening while she was sitting in her booster seat, eating watermelon and watching TV. I could be wrong, but her head looked a little longer to me. Maybe the CST is starting to work a little. Or, maybe it's a placebo effect or it could be that her hair was making it look that way. I don't know, but I'm really hoping that if I combine the CST with the chiro, we can be through with this by Christmas. I can say that this is the first time since I've stopped the helmet that I've felt like we may be doing some good. I'm hoping the chiro says that he can help her. All I'm asking for is a little more improvement.

Flat to Squarish to Roundovalish, WOW!

For those of you who wonder if the head keeps moving in the right direction after the band is off, I believe it does. Maysa has been out of her band almost three months and I am seeing her head round out even more. Here is what I am seeing:

http://mymaysa.wordpress.com/2009/08/18/flat-to-square-to-round-wow/

I am so excited for her!

Leila,Maysa, 19 mo, DOC band Grad 5.26.09

www.mymaysa.wordpress.com

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Hi ,

's chiropractor is very gentle.  It looks like a head massage and

lasts less than 10 mins.  I think she is gently molding his head and

pushing things back into place.  The bone structure in 's head

looked abnormal before we started treatments and now it appears

better.  I am not sure whether 's head measurements improve with

treatment, but the appearance definitely does.  The flat area looks

more round and there are less funny angles.  The right side still looks

smaller than the left, but the shapes match more closely.  I think we

need more head growth in the helmet for the size to match.  The

chiropractor does not use an activator.  I have had an activator used

on me and it is more gentle than some techniques used on adults.  The

chiropractor also sometimes does some very quick gentle adjustments on

other parts (neck, hips, back) of 's body.  I would feel

uncomfortable if 's treatment looks anything but very gentle. 

From what I've seen, the techniques used on young children are much

more gentle than those used on adults. 

Did you read how Leila keeps Maysa off her back with a pony tail?  Have

you tried anything to keep from sleeping on her back?   I think

one big reason my older son's head ended up sorta okay was that he

started sleeping on his stomach well before a year.

That is interesting what your neurosurgeon said about larger heads

taking longer to close off.  Maybe, that is what we are experiencing

with since the chiropractor seems pleased with how easily things

still move.  So far the scans haven't shown much head growth though. 

We have a scan coming up next week, so hopefully we see some then.

Good luck,

Kathy

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Hi Kathy,

 

Yes, is still definately still nursing, although these

days, she tends to only do it in the house. We are trying to gently

nudge her towards weaning, although she shows few signs of being ready

for this. She nurses like a typical 10-month old.  This chiro is a

male, but hopefully he'll be okay with her nursing.

 

Can I ask more about what the chiro does? My pediatrician was very

skeptical that it could possibly do any good. She said that she's not

anti chiro and visits one herself, but said that unless they do

something to the skull, she couldn'y see how it could help. Then, she

said that she'd be okay with cranial manipulation if it didn't involve

anything too significant. She stressed the concept of "do no harm." I

think she's concerned that he will hurt and said that she is

more vulnerable than most kids her age because she is so small. It was

only after I promised that I'd stop the treatment if appeared

to be in pain that she agreed to give me the referral. She asked me how

it works and I had to admit that I only knew about it from my

lists and didn't really understand it myself. We will have

2-year appointment a week after our first chiro visit so she said she

wants to hear about it then.

 

I'm not sure what she has left in terms of soft spots. I do know

that the neurosurgeon said that small heads (which she has) tend to

close off earlier than larger heads. I've also heard that our heads

don't completely close until we reach adulthood so there's room for

small changes. We'll have to see what my chiro says. I know that there

are people on the older plagio group with older kids that visit the

chiro and say they are seeing improvement.

 

I did a little bit of looking around online and found some

articles where they were talking about treating reflux with chiro.

Maybe he can help with this as well. We did recently stop her

Prevacid, but we're questioning whether she may still need it. She's

been nursing nonstop (for comfort?), coughing, and getting up multiple

times at night. She's not spitting up so we're kind of confused. I know

that some people with food allergies also see a chiro, so I'm wondering

what else he may be able to help us with.

 

On a side note, I was looking at 's profile this evening

while she was sitting in her booster seat, eating watermelon and

watching TV. I could be wrong, but her head looked a little longer to

me. Maybe the CST is starting to work a little. Or, maybe it's a

placebo effect or it could be that her hair was making it look that

way. I don't know, but I'm really hoping that if I combine the CST with

the chiro, we can be through with this by Christmas. I can say that

this is the first time since I've stopped the helmet that I've felt

like we may be doing some good. I'm hoping the chiro says that he can

help her. All I'm asking for is a little more improvement.

 

 

 

  

Flat to Squarish to Roundovalish, WOW!

 

For those of you who wonder if the head keeps moving in

the right direction after the band is off, I believe it does.  Maysa

has been out of her band almost three months and I am seeing her head

round out even more.  Here is what I am seeing:

http://mymaysa.wordpress.com/2009/08/18/flat-to-square-to-round-wow/

 

I am so excited for her!

 

Leila,

Maysa, 19 mo, DOC band Grad 5.26.09

www.mymaysa.wordpress.com

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Kathy,

Thanks for the description.

I can't get to let me keep her in a ponytail for more than about 5 minutes. She keeps taking it out. Up until her consult at CT, she wouldn't even let me put it in her. Since then, she likes to put it in, admire herself in the mirror, and then take it out. I may play around with trying this, but I'm already pushing her comfort level with the CST exercies. But, she is starting to vary her position while asleep. They say that she sleeps on her tummy at daycare, but at home, she sleeps on her back, her side, and her tummy. That's an improvement over what she used to do. She used to be a complete back sleeper.

I'll let you know how the appointment goes on Saturday.

Flat to Squarish to Roundovalish, WOW!

For those of you who wonder if the head keeps moving in the right direction after the band is off, I believe it does. Maysa has been out of her band almost three months and I am seeing her head round out even more. Here is what I am seeing:

http://mymaysa.wordpress.com/2009/08/18/flat-to-square-to-round-wow/

I am so excited for her!

Leila,Maysa, 19 mo, DOC band Grad 5.26.09

www.mymaysa.wordpress.com