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All I can say Dr. R is I may have a large stomach but it's a delicate one at

that! It looks like a bunch of little aliens in hiding! Thank God for people

like you. A doctor I could never be, for more reasons than one! :)

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In a message dated 9/4/2000 12:31:22 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

lindat@... writes:

<< Wow!! Awesome!!

Rutledge, M.D., F.A.C.S. wrote:

>

> Hi,

>

> I have been working on a new description of the surgery section of the web

> site. >>

Okay, awesome as it may be, it wasn't what I should have been looking at

right after eating oatmeal.... LOL <g>

Robin

Wife to Doug

Mommy to Tyler, 4 yrs., and Brennan, 1 yr.

Singer, wife, mom, secretary.. and not in that particular order.

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Dr. R.

That was so interesting - it's unbelievable how

clear the pictures are. My only suggestion would

be to put a next picture link on the big picture

pages so you don't have to go back to the page

with all the samll pictures to access the next big

picture.

- waiting in Chicago

Hotels

>

>

> > I have a date of September 27 ( Yippeeeee ! )

and need to make

> reservations for that week, but have no a clue

where to go. I have been

> reading and taking notes for months and now it

is time for me to do this and

> I am totally confused about the best place to

go. I don't need luxury, just

> clean comfort and even though money isn't the

main issue it would be nice to

> find something we can just rent for a few days

instead of paying enough to

> own. More than the money right now is location,

what is close to the

> hospital ? I called Wellesley Inns and they

sounded great but she says they

> are 30 or more minutes from the hospital.

Anything closer with a fridge and

> microwave, etc. ? And how long should I make my

reservations for ? Is

> Medstay a service or a hotel ? Any help at this

point would be greatly

> appreciated. Thanx.

> >

> > Gwen

> > Dancing 9/27

> >

> >

> > PS Is there anyone else out there with a 9/27

date ?

> >

> >

...................................................

.......

> > iWon.com http://www.iwon.com why

wouldn't you?

> >

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> >

> >

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Dr. R...

This is great! I especially liked the links to the larger versions

of the pictures at the left, which are very educational. The small

ones are a bit difficult to make heads or tails of, but the larger

ones are great!

IMHO

ebbieday in VA

preop 9/14/00

> Hi,

>

> I have been working on a new description of the surgery section of

the web

> site.

>

> If you are interested

>

> http://clos.net/op/descrptn.htm

>

> As always gentle comments and criticisms are welcome.

>

>

> RR

>

> Rutledge, M.D., F.A.C.S.

> The Center for Laparoscopic Obesity Surgery

> 4301 Ben lin Blvd.

> Durham, N.C. 27704

> Telephone #:

> Fax #:

> Email: DrR@c...

>

> ************************************************

> Please Visit our Web site: http://clos.net

> ************************************************

> Please join the

> Mini-Gastric Bypass Mailing List

> at http://www.onelist.com

>

> The Latest Version of the

> Mini-Gastric Bypass

> Patient Education Manual

> ( http://www.clos.net/get_patient_manual.htm )

>

> Imagine a 30 min. Outpatient cure for Obesity

> Hotels

>

>

> > I have a date of September 27 ( Yippeeeee ! ) and need to make

> reservations for that week, but have no a clue where to go. I have

been

> reading and taking notes for months and now it is time for me to do

this and

> I am totally confused about the best place to go. I don't need

luxury, just

> clean comfort and even though money isn't the main issue it would

be nice to

> find something we can just rent for a few days instead of paying

enough to

> own. More than the money right now is location, what is close to the

> hospital ? I called Wellesley Inns and they sounded great but she

says they

> are 30 or more minutes from the hospital. Anything closer with a

fridge and

> microwave, etc. ? And how long should I make my reservations for ?

Is

> Medstay a service or a hotel ? Any help at this point would be

greatly

> appreciated. Thanx.

> >

> > Gwen

> > Dancing 9/27

> >

> >

> > PS Is there anyone else out there with a 9/27 date ?

> >

> > ........................................................

> > iWon.com http://www.iwon.com why wouldn't you?

> > ........................................................

> >

> >

> > This message is from the Mini-Gastric Bypass Mailing List at

Onelist.com

> > Please visit our web site at http://clos.net

> > Get the Patient Manual at http://clos.net/get_patient_manual.htm

> >

> > To Unsubscribe Send and Email to:

> MiniGastricBypass-unsubscribe (AT) egroups (DOT) com

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> >

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In a message dated 9/5/2000 11:22:55 PM Eastern Daylight Time, drr@...

writes:

<< Some of the preop letters look similar and it would be a good way to

generate discussion: >>

Dr. Rutledge,

I believe that the patient letters are similar because we all have the

same manuel that we read and study from cover to cover, we are all receiving

the same info and we all feel very similar in how our weight affects us on a

personal basis, so when we sit down to do our letter on the eleven subjects

you want covered, we've all taken it from the same source so it's bound to

sound similar.

Cathy Morrow in Lenoir, NC

BMI 42

A journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step

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Dear Dr. R,

You know doc I went thru the whole test and answered all the questions except

one and while I was looking up the material AOL kicked me off and p----ed me

off also. It wasnt too bad a questionarire, it does make you research for the

answers, probably a good tool. Gee does that mean you want me to do it all

over again? I hope not , I was just trying it out. If you do that do you

still have to do the 11 pages, I have 7 already done. I was going to surprise

you and answer them all . lol

Well anyway, could you please answer me about the concusion I recently

recieved in a car accident and if I need to have a certain waiting period

because of it to undergo anesthesia.

Thanks

Pat Iurato (the crash-test dummy)

, Nevada pre op

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Dr. Rutledge....will the test take the place of the letter or will

it be a new step included in the process?

Vicki

- In MiniGastricBypass (AT) egroups (DOT) com, " Rutledge, M.D., F.A.C.S. "

<drr@c...> wrote:

> Hi,

>

> New Stuff.

>

> I am " considering " a preop test for patients considering the

surgery.

>

> Some of the preop letters look similar and it would be a good way to

> generate discussion:

> Check out http://clos.net/forms/test.htm

>

> Let me know what you think.

> (Be nice)

>

> New stuff on the MGB description page:

> http://clos.net/op/descrptn.htm

>

> New Old Loop vs. the Mini-Gastric Bypass page:

> http://clos.net/old-loop.htm

>

> RR

>

> Rutledge, M.D., F.A.C.S.

> The Center for Laparoscopic Obesity Surgery

> 4301 Ben lin Blvd.

> Durham, N.C. 27704

> Telephone #:

> Fax #:

> Email: DrR@c...

>

> ************************************************

> Please Visit our Web site: http://clos.net

> ************************************************

> Please join the

> Mini-Gastric Bypass Mailing List

> at http://www.onelist.com

>

> The Latest Version of the

> Mini-Gastric Bypass

> Patient Education Manual

> ( http://www.clos.net/get_patient_manual.htm )

>

> Imagine a 30 min. Outpatient cure for Obesity

> RE: Need Contacts?

>

>

> > Hi Guys:

> >

> > Just a short note from a post-op with an opinion about contacts

and some

> contact etiquette..

> >

> > Most post-ops don't mind being asked to be a contact. But please

ask them

> in person, off

> > the list. Most will answer you quickly and are glad to do so. If

you put

> out a general

> > broadcast to the list, some don't answer because they figure

someone else

> already has. It's

> > actually flattering to be asked to be a contact. That says to us

post-ops

> that you believe we

> > have something to offer you and most of us like to be needed. If

you do a

> general post, it's

> > kind of unflattering...kind of says...hey, I need you to talk to

me..I

> don't care who contacts

> > me...I just need to get this done...so definately...go with the

route of

> asking someone, at their

> > own email address, to be a contact for you.

> >

> > Dr. R wants each pre-op to have to go out of the way to some

degree to get

> their MGB

> > education. The contact portion of the process is a very important

part.

> Try to choose folks

> > who write posts with which you identify...someone you can learn

something

> from...and not

> > just fulfill your contact requirement. It is fine to ask by

email. It

> doesn't have to be by phone

> > but that's a good way to get a contact too. When you send your

packet in,

> you don't have to

> > include a copy of the email. But you need to do a short paragraph

or two

> about who you

> > used as a contact, the date and the way in which you had contact

and a

> paragraph about

> > what you learned from that person about MGB.

> >

> > Post-ops: I have decided that my signature file will now include

the fact

> that I am willing to be

> > a contact. During the past week I have had 7 requests for

contacts and I

> just love talking

> > MGB. I'm thrilled with my surgery results and I want to share.

So I'm

> going to advertise my

> > willingness to give back by saying so in my signature. Please

join me if

> you enjoy being a

> > contact.

> >

> > Now......if I can figure out how I made the other signature file,

I'm

> going to change it so that I

> > can show my willingness to be a contact!

> >

> > Thanks for listening if you got this far.

> >

> > Flo

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Florence Ballengee

> > Hollywood, land

> > florence@u...

> > Always happy to be a contact...just write me!

> > or call me at

> >

> > Download NeoPlanet at http://www.neoplanet.com

> >

> >

> > This message is from the Mini-Gastric Bypass Mailing List at

Onelist.com

> > Please visit our web site at http://clos.net

> > Get the Patient Manual at http://clos.net/get_patient_manual.htm

> >

> > and for more on the MGB,Don't miss :

> > http://www.fourlane.com/mgb

> >

> > To Unsubscribe Send and Email to:

> MiniGastricBypass-unsubscribe (AT) egroups (DOT) com

> >

> >

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I'll say it again, I can't believe how clear the photos are!

> I am " considering " a preop test for patients considering the surgery.

> Some of the preop letters look similar and it would be a good way to

> generate discussion:

> Check out http://clos.net/forms/test.htm

> Let me know what you think.

> (Be nice)

So, we'aren't always nice, huh?

To facilitate discussion, I think the questions should be numbered.

For " How much weight should you expect to lose at one month? and How much

weight should you expect to lose at three months?' My cursory review of

patient e-mails indicates some patients may not understand 'average' weight

loss. Perhaps, if it said something like 'How much weight does the average

MGB patient lose after one month... after three months? According to the

patinet manual, what is the most weight lost by an MGB patient after one

month? The least?' " After MGB surgery, you much weight should YOU expect

to lose after one/three " Or some such....

I think it is telling that the ASBS didn't come out itself and sponsor the

phantom MGB info site, and that only eight of the membership endorsed that

site (nine if you count A's behind the scene cowardly participation.) So,

I'm guessing at least some other surgeons are, at the very least, intrigued

by MGB. How could they not be? If you said " Why don't SOME other surgeons

like the MGB?' it might be more appropriate. " List at least five serious

risks of surgery.' Do you mean surgery in general, or the MGB?

I think the last six questions should use the term 'MGB surgery' in them.

For example: 'After MGB surgery how much weight has the average patient

lost after one month? And the last question should use it twice. Or some

such....

>

> New stuff on the MGB description page:

> http://clos.net/op/descrptn.htm

I still can't get over how clear all the photos are. I would never have

thought of adding the times, I like it. I'm assuming you will be adding

more 'letters' to some of the photos.

>

> New Old Loop vs. the Mini-Gastric Bypass page:

> http://clos.net/old-loop.htm

Do you want to add the words " and potential cancers "

Also, first paragraph, last sentence needs rewording.

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ok Doc that test is pretty good. I have gone to other bariatric surgeons and

they also have a little test they like you to do. After reading all the

material, i feel like I can answer pretty much all the ? with out to much

trouble. The only one I really couldn't answer and be sure of was the reason

other docs dont like the surgery. I have read what they have said about the

chance of cancer and then Ihave read what you had to say. Also I know the

other doctors like the roux-en-y (Why I do not know) because it has been

around awhile and they do not like change. Can you make that one clearer so

If you decide to test us we can get that one correct too. Thank you hugs marg

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Dr. R.,

The preop test should be a breeze for anyone who has invested the time to

thoroughly review the patient education manual. A better educated consumer

should be a happier consumer.

Tarri

Being held hostage by insurance approval in Missouri

RE: Need Contacts?

>

>

> > Hi Guys:

> >

> > Just a short note from a post-op with an opinion about contacts and some

> contact etiquette..

> >

> > Most post-ops don't mind being asked to be a contact. But please ask

them

> in person, off

> > the list. Most will answer you quickly and are glad to do so. If you put

> out a general

> > broadcast to the list, some don't answer because they figure someone

else

> already has. It's

> > actually flattering to be asked to be a contact. That says to us

post-ops

> that you believe we

> > have something to offer you and most of us like to be needed. If you do

a

> general post, it's

> > kind of unflattering...kind of says...hey, I need you to talk to me..I

> don't care who contacts

> > me...I just need to get this done...so definately...go with the route of

> asking someone, at their

> > own email address, to be a contact for you.

> >

> > Dr. R wants each pre-op to have to go out of the way to some degree to

get

> their MGB

> > education. The contact portion of the process is a very important part.

> Try to choose folks

> > who write posts with which you identify...someone you can learn

something

> from...and not

> > just fulfill your contact requirement. It is fine to ask by email. It

> doesn't have to be by phone

> > but that's a good way to get a contact too. When you send your packet

in,

> you don't have to

> > include a copy of the email. But you need to do a short paragraph or two

> about who you

> > used as a contact, the date and the way in which you had contact and a

> paragraph about

> > what you learned from that person about MGB.

> >

> > Post-ops: I have decided that my signature file will now include the

fact

> that I am willing to be

> > a contact. During the past week I have had 7 requests for contacts and I

> just love talking

> > MGB. I'm thrilled with my surgery results and I want to share. So I'm

> going to advertise my

> > willingness to give back by saying so in my signature. Please join me

if

> you enjoy being a

> > contact.

> >

> > Now......if I can figure out how I made the other signature file, I'm

> going to change it so that I

> > can show my willingness to be a contact!

> >

> > Thanks for listening if you got this far.

> >

> > Flo

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Florence Ballengee

> > Hollywood, land

> > florence@...

> > Always happy to be a contact...just write me!

> > or call me at

> >

> > Download NeoPlanet at http://www.neoplanet.com

> >

> >

> > This message is from the Mini-Gastric Bypass Mailing List at Onelist.com

> > Please visit our web site at http://clos.net

> > Get the Patient Manual at http://clos.net/get_patient_manual.htm

> >

> > and for more on the MGB,Don't miss :

> > http://www.fourlane.com/mgb

> >

> > To Unsubscribe Send and Email to:

> MiniGastricBypass-unsubscribe (AT) egroups (DOT) com

> >

> >

> >

>

>

> This message is from the Mini-Gastric Bypass Mailing List at Onelist.com

> Please visit our web site at http://clos.net

> Get the Patient Manual at http://clos.net/get_patient_manual.htm

>

> and for more on the MGB,Don't miss :

> http://www.fourlane.com/mgb

>

> To Unsubscribe Send and Email to:

MiniGastricBypass-unsubscribe (AT) egroups (DOT) com

>

>

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