Dana's response to Patti about allergies

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Patti,

Thank you for your response. The test for dairy was cow's milk. So, I was

wondering about whether or not to withhold goat yogurt or not. I use Progurt (a

nondairy yogurt starter). But I was just wondering if I needed to try them off

of all dairy.

What about the eggs. They tested highly sensitive to the eggs, but I have

been feeding them about five eggs a day each in recipes such as sneaky veggie

pancakes, chicken cupcakes, meatloaf, almond flour pancakes, etc. Could I have

just been feeding too many eggs and need to rotate?

The reason I am considering taking these out of their diet is because, even

though they are responding very well to the SCD, they still have major

developmental delays and some autistic type behaviors (though those are seeming

to get better) They still have a lot of sensory issues (such as jumping on the

couch or in their baby bed for long periods of time, textural issues with food,

etc) So, I was wondering if taking them off of some of the more allergenic

foods would help.

Any suggestions?

Thanks, Dana

Patti wrote:

Many kids with leaky gut will test positive for sensitivities to

foods... even if they don't have an obvious reaction to them.

That is up to you, whether to hold those foods out at this point.

Many parents here have found that sensitivities decrease or disappear as SCD

heals the gut.

Are you using cow milk for the SCD yogurt? Did the tests specify cow dairy? Or

goat? Or both? We recommend goat milk yogurt.

There are nut and egg free recipes on the website: www.pecanbread.com

Patti

Allergies to eggs, peanuts, and dairy just discovered.

What to feed picky 2 yr olds now?

My twin two year olds have major developmental delays - nothing official

diagnosed yet except Celiac Disease. I have had them on SCD for three months and

have seen quite a few improvements. But have just discovered yesterday that they

tested highly sensitive to eggs and dairy and also sensitive to peanuts (I have

not even introduced peanuts yet).

All I can get them to eat at this point are dishes made with egg or yogurt

(sneaky veggie pancakes, almond flour pancakes, chicken cupcakes, avocado

meatloaf, etc) Now what can I feed them? They are picky and have some textural

issues with foods.

Can I make almond flour baked goods without eggs? Can any one give me healthy

alternatives especially for breakfast?

Thank you,

Dana

Mom to and Garrett

Celiac Disease

SCD 3 months

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Dana,

I think a lot of this will just be your personal decision. Elaine, and others

here, had little regard for some of the standard allergy testing.... which often

gives results that show " sensitivity " to one food or another, even if the

individual never has any actual observable symptoms from it.

Elaine always said that we should avoid ANY food.... FOREVER... that causes an

anaphylactic reaction. But, if an allergy test shows a sensitivity to a food

that the kid eats all the time without any noticeable problems, it sort of

becomes your call.

A leaky gut is going to probably skew these tests.... although I have to admit I

have zero personal experience with allergy testing. I've never looked into it

for my daughter.... so I really shouldn't be the one advising you. It needs to

be your decision. I can only go by what others here have reported and/or decided

to do.

If you think pulling certain foods out... or rotating them is wise, that's up to

you. It's not part of SCD protocol to pull foods out unless one has obvious

reactions to them. All we can say is that there are kids here who have had

follow-up testing after being on SCD for some time, that showed lessening of

sensitivity scores... or even disappearance of sensitivities that once showed up

in their tests.

I can't say whether your kids will stop jumping on the couch if you pull eggs

out.... but why not try it for a week or so and see what happens? I guess that

can't hurt.

Being on SCD only three months, I would have to say that it just hasn't been

long enough for you to see the full impact of what the diet can do over time.

You're still in the beginning stages of healing.

As far as whether or not to use the yogurt, I would say that if they tested

positive on cow milk, then goat milk yogurt would be the logical thing to start

with. Of course, the " test results " do not mean that they will have an ACTUAL

reaction to SCD cow yogurt, but if you *can* make it with goat milk, why not? We

recommend most kids on the spectrum start with SCD goat yogurt.

I would say that the potential benefits of the yogurt are SO great.... that I

would urge you not to avoid it. It would be an entirely different thing.... and

completely up to you in any case... if your kids had overtly REACTED to goat

dairy in the past, but if they have not, please consider trying the goat yogurt.

Of course, you will start with an ultra small amount and increase slowly. It has

SO much healing to offer... it's almost a miracle food.

Patti

Dana's response to Patti about allergies

Patti,

Thank you for your response. The test for dairy was cow's milk. So, I was

wondering about whether or not to withhold goat yogurt or not. I use Progurt (a

nondairy yogurt starter). But I was just wondering if I needed to try them off

of all dairy.

What about the eggs. They tested highly sensitive to the eggs, but I have been

feeding them about five eggs a day each in recipes such as sneaky veggie

pancakes, chicken cupcakes, meatloaf, almond flour pancakes, etc. Could I have

just been feeding too many eggs and need to rotate?

The reason I am considering taking these out of their diet is because, even

though they are responding very well to the SCD, they still have major

developmental delays and some autistic type behaviors (though those are seeming

to get better) They still have a lot of sensory issues (such as jumping on the

couch or in their baby bed for long periods of time, textural issues with food,

etc) So, I was wondering if taking them off of some of the more allergenic foods

would help.

Any suggestions?

Thanks, Dana

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I can give you my personal experiences with allergy " scratch " tests

& one blood test that we had done years ago.

Years ago my ASD son was tested for celiac & came up negative. He

did respond to the GFCF diet; if he has any gluten he could put his

head through a brick wall from the violent reaction to the gluten;

yet he is " not celiac " & his blood work said nothing else was askew.

My daughter, now 4.5yrs, had an anaphylactic reaction to some

walnuts on a cookie 1.5yrs ago. I took her to an allergy dr for some

scratch testing. She got huge welts on her back from the walnuts &

other tree nuts (some even worse). She tested fine for peanuts (a

legume), & fine for almonds (supposedly related to peaches). But for

tree nuts she has an EpiPen, just in case. That will most likely be

forever for her.

When she has had dairy, she breaks out in eczema, has diahrea,

stuffy, runny nose, & eventually gets sick & heavily congested. She

tested " fine " for dairy. I obviously don't give her any regardless.

My baby boy, now 13m, started getting severe eczema last year at 3m

old. He was exclusively nursed ( & is still nursing even though he

has some foods now). I took myself off dairy & noticed *some*

improvement in his eczema. I took myself off wheat & notice *more*

improvement in his eczema. I took him for scratch testing & he came

up " fine " for ALL foods, but possibly allergic to cats (we have 3).

The dr said he was probably okay with cats, but his immune system

was depressed right now.

After that I took myself off soy & corn; some improvement but still

problems, especially on his face; his body was clearing at this

point. I took myself off potatoes - huge improvement in the body,

not the face yet though; still severe on the face, even on his head.

At this point he was probably 6-7m old.

A couple of months more of this (he suffered because his face was

really painful, there was pus ooozing, & he was itchy & miserable at

night especially. I kept it clean but being it was his face he was

prone to it becoming infected. I was desperate to help him, even

though the drs said he would probably have to " live with it " until

he was 2, maybe even 3yrs old, & even though he had had some

improvement with the foods I went off.

Finally I took myself off the last grain I was having - rice. HUGE

improvements. Then I started giving him 1/2t of cod liver oil per

day, & myself 3 t/day. HEALING! He only has small tiny outbreaks on

his chin when I eat a bad food (I've been terrible lately; we're all

going SCD probably next week if I can get my act together & make the

soup this weekend).

He's not allergic to cats at all :-).

We recently went back to the allergy dr - for my daughter to update

her Epipen Rx, & he saw my son with me. He had huge improvements

that the dr just wouldn't acknowledge had anything to do with the

foods I was avoiding, & only minimally credited the CLO to helping

him at all.

I was SO annoyed, but that's a dr.

So those are my allergy testing experiences. I hope it helps someone.

Best,

Michele

Mom to 4 - oldest severe ASD

2nd - sensory issues & mild Asperger's

3rd - severe nut allergies; possible other developmental issues

4th - severe food " intolerances/allergies "

>

> Dana,

>

> I think a lot of this will just be your personal decision. Elaine,

and others here, had little regard for some of the standard allergy

testing.... which often gives results that show " sensitivity " to one

food or another, even if the individual never has any actual

observable symptoms from it.

>

> Elaine always said that we should avoid ANY food.... FOREVER...

that causes an anaphylactic reaction. But, if an allergy test shows

a sensitivity to a food that the kid eats all the time without any

noticeable problems, it sort of becomes your call.

>

> A leaky gut is going to probably skew these tests.... although I

have to admit I have zero personal experience with allergy testing.

I've never looked into it for my daughter.... so I really shouldn't

be the one advising you. It needs to be your decision. I can only go

by what others here have reported and/or decided to do.

>

> If you think pulling certain foods out... or rotating them is

wise, that's up to you. It's not part of SCD protocol to pull foods

out unless one has obvious reactions to them. All we can say is that

there are kids here who have had follow-up testing after being on

SCD for some time, that showed lessening of sensitivity scores... or

even disappearance of sensitivities that once showed up in their

tests.

>

> I can't say whether your kids will stop jumping on the couch if

you pull eggs out.... but why not try it for a week or so and see

what happens? I guess that can't hurt.

>

> Being on SCD only three months, I would have to say that it just

hasn't been long enough for you to see the full impact of what the

diet can do over time. You're still in the beginning stages of

healing.

>

> As far as whether or not to use the yogurt, I would say that if

they tested positive on cow milk, then goat milk yogurt would be the

logical thing to start with. Of course, the " test results " do not

mean that they will have an ACTUAL reaction to SCD cow yogurt, but

if you *can* make it with goat milk, why not? We recommend most kids

on the spectrum start with SCD goat yogurt.

>

> I would say that the potential benefits of the yogurt are SO

great.... that I would urge you not to avoid it. It would be an

entirely different thing.... and completely up to you in any case...

if your kids had overtly REACTED to goat dairy in the past, but if

they have not, please consider trying the goat yogurt. Of course,

you will start with an ultra small amount and increase slowly. It

has SO much healing to offer... it's almost a miracle food.

>

> Patti

>

>

> Dana's response to Patti about allergies

>

>

> Patti,

>

> Thank you for your response. The test for dairy was cow's milk.

So, I was wondering about whether or not to withhold goat yogurt or

not. I use Progurt (a nondairy yogurt starter). But I was just

wondering if I needed to try them off of all dairy.

>

> What about the eggs. They tested highly sensitive to the eggs,

but I have been feeding them about five eggs a day each in recipes

such as sneaky veggie pancakes, chicken cupcakes, meatloaf, almond

flour pancakes, etc. Could I have just been feeding too many eggs

and need to rotate?

>

> The reason I am considering taking these out of their diet is

because, even though they are responding very well to the SCD, they

still have major developmental delays and some autistic type

behaviors (though those are seeming to get better) They still have a

lot of sensory issues (such as jumping on the couch or in their baby

bed for long periods of time, textural issues with food, etc) So, I

was wondering if taking them off of some of the more allergenic

foods would help.

>

> Any suggestions?

>

> Thanks, Dana

>

>

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