Re: having the rny

[Guest guest]

Dear Melody, there is a supportive web site, not as good as the MGB one but

at least it's there, and it's for open RNY folks. The site is called Obesity

Surgery Support Group, and they have local chapters. Mine is the NY area

chapter, even though I live in Philly. I will be able to have the MGB, I

hope, but at first I was unsure of what I wanted or even if I wanted any of

this, and so I have been watching both sites. There's good info on both that

can apply to both groups. I am sorry that you can't be an MGB'er, but what

matters is that you get healthy. It doesn't matter how you get there.

Right? Please, go to that site as well as this one. You'll learn good

stuff. :-) Judy

[Guest guest]

Melody,

Please hang in there. All is not loss. On my computer screensaver I have

written " All things are possible though Christ who strengthens me " It has

help me to deal with the fact that I may never be eligible to have this

surgery either.

My situation is a little different and less hopefully than yours. I have

co-morbidities that made me look at WLS options. I have chronic HBP,

Fibromuscular Dsyplasia, chronic fatigue and borderline Diabetes I have

always thought I was too heavy and have always dieted. However, when I

started looking for a way to reduce my BP and have a better quality of life,

I found out that I am not heavy enough for the surgery. I have talked with

my insurance company and they sent me guidelines which state I must be 50% or

100lbs overweight w/medical problems. Well, I am not 100lbs overweight. My

PCP put me on Xenical to lose weight before he would follow me for the

surgery. When I go to him and tell him in the 4 wks he has had me on this I

have only lost 3 lbs, I am sure he will come up with another reason not to

follow me. LOL It was to pacify me.

All things are possible w/Christ. I have decided that I will go though the

research, and pre-cert, and everything else trusting that Jesus will see me

though this and make a way. No one but him truly knows what pain I am in.

See this is not only about being overweight. I am terrified that I will

eventually end up with kidney failure because of the problems with my blood

pressure which has been as high as 200/110. No joke.

I don't have all the answers, but I do know what it is like to want something

to help yourself and to feel like it will never happen. Hang in there. Your

life is worth it.

Jai

[Guest guest]

Melody,

Good luck with your RNY. My oldest sister (55) had the RNY done July, 99

and has lost 150 lbs to date. She weighed 370 at surgery is doing really

well. I am choosing the MGB because I weight 295 and fit the criteria. If

you have any questions about the RNY, let me know and I'll get an answer from

her. Her name is Randy.

Again good luck!

Rebekah in Alabama

[Guest guest]

Melody -

Before you give up on the MGB, and we really don't want you to cause

you're a sister of ours, has anyone told you about Fanney (one of

Icelandic Warrior Princesses) who started at 550. She went on

the Adkins plan (20 gr. carbs and all the protien she could handle)

and Dr. R. did the MGB on her when she weighed 400. Alot depends

upon

your body build and, I know this sounds like a silly question, but

has

Doc R. seen you yet? If you are close, I'd come to clinc and let him

get a good look at you.

I am a diehard optimist (sp) and I firmly believe in you and your

determination to make yourself healthy.

If it all turns out that you have to get another form of weight loss

surgery, it's better the RNY than most of the other non-MGB options

out there. Or, perhaps Doc R. would consider doing the MGB as an

open

procedure on you??????????? Never hurts to ask.

-Ginny I.

mgb: 3/1/00

348/254 (am withing sneezing distance of having 100 lbs. gone!!!)

> I am going to the doc next week so i can get approved for the rny.

Dr.

> Rutledge is unable to help me with the MGB as I weigh to

much...423lbs and

> there isnt a chance in HELL I can loose 75lbs for this surgery. I

know

> loads of you are saying... " this is the last diet you'll have to do "

but it

> cant be done. I know this and am not going to put myself or my

family thru

> that. I wish I could have an open MGB but there is no way Dr. R

will do

> that. I know the RNY isnt near the surgery the MGB is but what

choice do I

> have. I though I should leave the list but I figure it doesnt

matter what

> surgery I have I still can use the support and advice afterwards

and

know

> no place on earth better than here. I had hoped to have the MGB in

Oct and

> even had the package all ready and everything but since the MGB is

not an

> option I tossed it in the shred pile last night. Since I am having

the open

> I am going to wait till end of Jan so I am not miserable for the

holidays

> and have a whole year to feel better.

>

> Melody

[Guest guest]

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Just thought you might need a hug. I had to diet for a few weeks

before surgery so I understand and respect your reasoning and wish

you the best!!!!

Love,

Beth

[Guest guest]

Hi. As sorry as I am that Dr. R can't help you, I must say that I am

REALLY glad that you are going to have weight-loss surgery. I know

that I could never lose 75 pounds on my own! Most of us on the list

have at one time or another consulted with other physicians before

finding the MGB website. I was also going to have an open RNY, not

knowing that there was a lap option. I found two good lap surgeons,

one doing the RNY and the other doing the MGB(Dr. R.) At 278 pounds,

I went with Dr. Rutledge. I see so many people go away from this list

discouraged because they are not within the weight qualifications for

the MGB. I feel for them, because there are other options. ANY other

reputable surgical option is better than doing nothing about the

excess weight. Congratulations on your upcoming surgery. Please do

stay on the list and keep us posted on you progress. Again,

Congratulations.

Stormy MGB 8/11/00

> I am going to the doc next week so i can get approved for the rny.

Dr.

> Rutledge is unable to help me with the MGB as I weigh to

much...423lbs and

> there isnt a chance in HELL I can loose 75lbs for this surgery.

[Guest guest]

Melody,

I really feel for your position. Don't know what area of the country

you are in but if you haven't done so I would look for a physician

who will do a lap RNY. I realize that you would rather have the MGB

but if I were faced with the other alternative, the RNY, I would have

to think long and hard about the open procedure. There is a

physician in Atlanta - Dr. Champion - that I know does the lap

procedure and I think you might qualify for his weight limit. He has

a web - www.drchampion.com I think.

on

Surgery date 10/04/00

BMI 49 soon to be I hope!

-- In MiniGastricBypass (AT) egroups (DOT) com, Melody <leilmotif@w...> wrote:

> I am going to the doc next week so i can get approved for the rny.

Dr.

> Rutledge is unable to help me with the MGB as I weigh to

much...423lbs and

> there isnt a chance in HELL I can loose 75lbs for this surgery. I

know

> loads of you are saying... " this is the last diet you'll have to do "

but it

> cant be done. I know this and am not going to put myself or my

family thru

> that. I wish I could have an open MGB but there is no way Dr. R

will do

> that. I know the RNY isnt near the surgery the MGB is but what

choice do I

> have. I though I should leave the list but I figure it doesnt

matter what

> surgery I have I still can use the support and advice afterwards

and know

> no place on earth better than here. I had hoped to have the MGB in

Oct and

> even had the package all ready and everything but since the MGB is

not an

> option I tossed it in the shred pile last night. Since I am having

the open

> I am going to wait till end of Jan so I am not miserable for the

holidays

> and have a whole year to feel better.

>

> Melody

[Guest guest]

Hey, this reminds me, I know a GREAT support group on onelist called

MillenniumBobs (AT) egroups (DOT) com

Most of the people on the list have had open RNY's and there a a lot

of pictures in the " files " section. I just LOVE that support list. It

is really as good as this one. Mind you, I still want to see you

posting here, but I was thinking that you may need some advice from

people who have been there with the open surgery. Let me know how

you like it.

Stormy

> Dear Melody, there is a supportive web site, not as good as the MGB

one but

> at least it's there, and it's for open RNY folks. The site is

called Obesity

> Surgery Support Group, and they have local chapters. Mine is the

NY area

> chapter, even though I live in Philly. I will be able to have the

MGB, I

> hope, but at first I was unsure of what I wanted or even if I

wanted any of

> this, and so I have been watching both sites. There's good info on

both that

> can apply to both groups. I am sorry that you can't be an MGB'er,

but what

> matters is that you get healthy. It doesn't matter how you get

there.

> Right? Please, go to that site as well as this one. You'll learn

good

> stuff. :-) Judy

[Guest guest]

One of the hard line rules I live by is...Just ask! And I did...I was told

he does not do the open at all and he will no longer do people over

350lbs. I am sure you know we have all tried every diet out there. I

could open a book store and sell diet books and have a great business with

all the ones I have. I have tried EVERYTHING and I do mean

everything. From no carb to low cal to all protein to cabbage three times

a day everyday to bananas and milk only. Some of the crap I have tried is

just down right amazing and I cannot loose the 75lbs needed. I have watch

Lara on here and was encourage by her progress and thought...OK I can do

this...I didn't. I dont think being upset and depressed and discouraged is

good. That is almost worse than the weight. I have been so upset abt

having to loose this weight to have the MGB I was throwing up from the

stress...and I am a laid back person to start. The only good side of that

was the weight loss but not the sick feeling and head aches and my poor BF

should have asked me to leave after some of the fits I had. I dont mind

crying over a sappy AT & T commercial but to walk around with swollen eyes

from depression is not for me.

I appreciate Stormy for the encouragement and saying the RNY as a

second option is better than living with the 423 lbs and raising. And it

is going up. I was so shocked when I saw how much I weighed I had to hold

onto the wall for a minute. I went out side and spent the next 1/2 hour in

my car crying. I am to good for this and love life to damb much. I want

to have kids, see them have kids and if I am as lucky as my great great

grandmother and great grandmother I can be the head of a five generation

picture. The family matriarch.

There is nothing more in the world I would like than to have the

MGB other than to just be a normal weight. I dont want to be Twiggy or

even considered skinny but I do want to sit in the seat of the next OU vs

OSU stadium with my bf. I want to get on that coater next year at the fair

and have the bar fit. I dont even get in line now so I am not asked to get

off because I dont fit.

There is this cute, sexy, amazing " dream dress " in the back of my

closet for the day I can fit into it. It isn't a little size either but a

14/16. Once I get this fat ass into that dress I am on the next plane to

Jamaica for two weeks in the sun and surf and little else...lol. I can see

the BF cringing now.

OK, now that I have go on and on...kind a like the energizer bunny I should

stop. You dont see me post much but by the gods when I do....

Melody

>Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 21:07:32 -0000

>

>Subject: Re: having the rny

>

>Melody -

>

>Before you give up on the MGB, and we really don't want you to cause

>you're a sister of ours, has anyone told you about Fanney (one of

>Icelandic Warrior Princesses) who started at 550. She went on

>the Adkins plan (20 gr. carbs and all the protien she could handle)

>and Dr. R. did the MGB on her when she weighed 400. Alot depends

>upon

>your body build and, I know this sounds like a silly question, but

>has

>Doc R. seen you yet? If you are close, I'd come to clinc and let him

>get a good look at you.

>

>I am a diehard optimist (sp) and I firmly believe in you and your

>determination to make yourself healthy.

>

>If it all turns out that you have to get another form of weight loss

>surgery, it's better the RNY than most of the other non-MGB options

>out there. Or, perhaps Doc R. would consider doing the MGB as an

>open

>procedure on you??????????? Never hurts to ask.

>

>-Ginny I.

>mgb: 3/1/00

>348/254 (am withing sneezing distance of having 100 lbs. gone!!!)

[Guest guest]

Melody,

If it were me and I could not have the surgery because of being over 350 I

would certainly have the RNY no two ways about it.

Dr. R. must have a valid reason for not doing the MGB on persons over 350. I

was impressed by his mounds of research data as was my own doctor.

It is not personal I am sure, if he felt comfortable working with people over

350 then I bet he would do this. But it must be a solid medical reason for

this. I would hate to have a surgeon who thinks he can just work on anyone.

The RNY does work from what I have seen, look at Carnie . It seems to me

that looking at your options you may need to choose the RNY. There are many

qualified surgeons around the U.S. and maybe they can do the Lap procedure on

you so you don't have the scar.

I agree with you, I personally would not torture myself with trying to loose 75

pounds. The most I could ever loose was 40 and I am not going to put myself

through diet hell again.

I look at any of the procedures as a " stop gap " measure. I am slowly gaining

year after year. If I can stop this then I feel I already 50% there. Any

further losses are all gravy. But the gaining MUST stop.

Hope my 2 cents helps.

Las Vegas, NV

preop

selfpay

290.

Melody wrote:

> One of the hard line rules I live by is...Just ask! And I did...I was told

> he does not do the open at all and he will no longer do people over

> 350lbs. I am sure you know we have all tried every diet out there. I

> could open a book store and sell diet books and have a great business with

> all the ones I have. I have tried EVERYTHING and I do mean

> everything. From no carb to low cal to all protein to cabbage three times

> a day everyday to bananas and milk only. Some of the crap I have tried is

> just down right amazing and I cannot loose the 75lbs needed. I have watch

> Lara on here and was encourage by her progress and thought...OK I can do

> this...I didn't. I dont think being upset and depressed and discouraged is

> good. That is almost worse than the weight. I have been so upset abt

> having to loose this weight to have the MGB I was throwing up from the

> stress...and I am a laid back person to start. The only good side of that

> was the weight loss but not the sick feeling and head aches and my poor BF

> should have asked me to leave after some of the fits I had. I dont mind

> crying over a sappy AT & T commercial but to walk around with swollen eyes

> from depression is not for me.

>

> I appreciate Stormy for the encouragement and saying the RNY as a

> second option is better than living with the 423 lbs and raising. And it

> is going up. I was so shocked when I saw how much I weighed I had to hold

> onto the wall for a minute. I went out side and spent the next 1/2 hour in

> my car crying. I am to good for this and love life to damb much. I want

> to have kids, see them have kids and if I am as lucky as my great great

> grandmother and great grandmother I can be the head of a five generation

> picture. The family matriarch.

>

> There is nothing more in the world I would like than to have the

> MGB other than to just be a normal weight. I dont want to be Twiggy or

> even considered skinny but I do want to sit in the seat of the next OU vs

> OSU stadium with my bf. I want to get on that coater next year at the fair

> and have the bar fit. I dont even get in line now so I am not asked to get

> off because I dont fit.

>

> There is this cute, sexy, amazing " dream dress " in the back of my

> closet for the day I can fit into it. It isn't a little size either but a

> 14/16. Once I get this fat ass into that dress I am on the next plane to

> Jamaica for two weeks in the sun and surf and little else...lol. I can see

> the BF cringing now.

>

> OK, now that I have go on and on...kind a like the energizer bunny I should

> stop. You dont see me post much but by the gods when I do....

>

> Melody

>

> >Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 21:07:32 -0000

> >

> >Subject: Re: having the rny

> >

> >Melody -

> >

> >Before you give up on the MGB, and we really don't want you to cause

> >you're a sister of ours, has anyone told you about Fanney (one of

> >Icelandic Warrior Princesses) who started at 550. She went on

> >the Adkins plan (20 gr. carbs and all the protien she could handle)

> >and Dr. R. did the MGB on her when she weighed 400. Alot depends

> >upon

> >your body build and, I know this sounds like a silly question, but

> >has

> >Doc R. seen you yet? If you are close, I'd come to clinc and let him

> >get a good look at you.

> >

> >I am a diehard optimist (sp) and I firmly believe in you and your

> >determination to make yourself healthy.

> >

> >If it all turns out that you have to get another form of weight loss

> >surgery, it's better the RNY than most of the other non-MGB options

> >out there. Or, perhaps Doc R. would consider doing the MGB as an

> >open

> >procedure on you??????????? Never hurts to ask.

> >

> >-Ginny I.

> >mgb: 3/1/00

> >348/254 (am withing sneezing distance of having 100 lbs. gone!!!)

>

>

[Guest guest]

<< I know the RNY isn't near the surgery the MGB is but what choice do I

have. >>

MELODY:

I am very interested in your post. We are similar in that I, too, have

no choice but to have another WLS since my age is against me having the MGB

surgery. Please keep in touch and let me know how you go about getting the

other surgery. If you'd like to call me and just talk:

(until Nov) and then .

Phyllis

[Guest guest]

I'm sorry if I missed it Phyllis, but your comment about age makes me wonder

how old you are, if you don't mind my asking?

Judith in Seattle Age 55

Re: having the rny

>

>

>

> << I know the RNY isn't near the surgery the MGB is but what choice do I

> have. >>

>

> MELODY:

> I am very interested in your post. We are similar in that I, too,

have

> no choice but to have another WLS since my age is against me having the

MGB

> surgery. Please keep in touch and let me know how you go about getting

the

> other surgery. If you'd like to call me and just talk:

> (until Nov) and then .

>

> Phyllis

>

>

[Guest guest]

Yes Judith I do not mind We bear our souls on this group so What is it to bear

our age. I am 57 and if Dr Rutledge does not hurry up I will be 58.

judith wrote:

> I'm sorry if I missed it Phyllis, but your comment about age makes me wonder

> how old you are, if you don't mind my asking?

> Judith in Seattle Age 55

> Re: having the rny

>

> >

> >

> >

> > << I know the RNY isn't near the surgery the MGB is but what choice do I

> > have. >>

> >

> > MELODY:

> > I am very interested in your post. We are similar in that I, too,

> have

> > no choice but to have another WLS since my age is against me having the

> MGB

> > surgery. Please keep in touch and let me know how you go about getting

> the

> > other surgery. If you'd like to call me and just talk:

> > (until Nov) and then .

> >

> > Phyllis

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

I have actually met a man here in OK at a support group meeting who had the

surgery by Dr. Champion. His weight loss was incredible!!! He had lost 150

lbs at 6 months!!! Yes......150 in 6 months (not a misprint).

Just thought I would tell you that!!!

Re: having the rny

> Melody,

>

> I really feel for your position. Don't know what area of the country

> you are in but if you haven't done so I would look for a physician

> who will do a lap RNY. I realize that you would rather have the MGB

> but if I were faced with the other alternative, the RNY, I would have

> to think long and hard about the open procedure. There is a

> physician in Atlanta - Dr. Champion - that I know does the lap

> procedure and I think you might qualify for his weight limit. He has

> a web - www.drchampion.com I think.

>

> on

> Surgery date 10/04/00

> BMI 49 soon to be I hope!

>

> -- In MiniGastricBypass (AT) egroups (DOT) com, Melody <leilmotif@w...> wrote:

> > I am going to the doc next week so i can get approved for the rny.

> Dr.

> > Rutledge is unable to help me with the MGB as I weigh to

> much...423lbs and

> > there isnt a chance in HELL I can loose 75lbs for this surgery. I

> know

> > loads of you are saying... " this is the last diet you'll have to do "

> but it

> > cant be done. I know this and am not going to put myself or my

> family thru

> > that. I wish I could have an open MGB but there is no way Dr. R

> will do

> > that. I know the RNY isnt near the surgery the MGB is but what

> choice do I

> > have. I though I should leave the list but I figure it doesnt

> matter what

> > surgery I have I still can use the support and advice afterwards

> and know

> > no place on earth better than here. I had hoped to have the MGB in

> Oct and

> > even had the package all ready and everything but since the MGB is

> not an

> > option I tossed it in the shred pile last night. Since I am having

> the open

> > I am going to wait till end of Jan so I am not miserable for the

> holidays

> > and have a whole year to feel better.

> >

> > Melody

>

>

>