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The lemon juice is causing the resperitory problems, or the fires? Can you

tell us what they are eating? You could try making a giner tea for the

cough, but I don't know if they can do ginger if they have severe allergies.

I'm glad to hear that they're making great strides.

Meleah scd 05/06

iel 3.5yrs. asd, Ethan 5yrs., Mark 18mths., both nt

Need help! SCD working but hit a major bump

> Hi everyone!

>

> I wanted to share with everyone the SCD is really helpinh my boys. The

> changes we have seen each day has been so rewarding. We were not able

> to use the recipes in the book because my boys have so many food

> allergies (eggs, almonds,dairy, fruit!) But we have gone without sugar

> and my boys have made wonderful progress. We started Labor Day weekend

> and yesterday I thought I might add something with lemon juuice and now

> my older boy is having horrible respiratory problems. Not to mention

> we have fires around us today so the smoke is really bad. Anyone have

> recommendations? He has a horrible tight cough.

>

> Jill

>

>

>

>

> For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

> _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

> websites:

> http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

> and

> http://www.pecanbread.com

>

>

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Thanks Robin! I'll try the ginger tea. I forgot about that one.

I've been trying everything else. I think it is the lemon juice that

caused the problem. I thought we were doing so well that maybe we

could introduce one of his allergens. We'll just have to wait

longer. SO far all my boys can tolerate is meat and certain

veggies. SO we have hamburgers, grilled chicken with steamed

broccoli or spinach for breakfast. I really hope we can get to eggs

and nuts sometime soon. Also, I was reading the Body Ecology Diet

and thought I would try the fermented veggies, that's what had the

lemon juice. So I was wondering if it is the allergy or die off

since the fermented veggies are another way to introduce probiotic

into his system.

Jill

>

> The lemon juice is causing the resperitory problems, or the fires?

Can you

> tell us what they are eating? You could try making a giner tea for

the

> cough, but I don't know if they can do ginger if they have severe

allergies.

> I'm glad to hear that they're making great strides.

> Meleah scd 05/06

> iel 3.5yrs. asd, Ethan 5yrs., Mark 18mths., both nt

>

> Need help! SCD working but hit a major bump

>

>

> > Hi everyone!

> >

> > I wanted to share with everyone the SCD is really helpinh my

boys. The

> > changes we have seen each day has been so rewarding. We were not

able

> > to use the recipes in the book because my boys have so many food

> > allergies (eggs, almonds,dairy, fruit!) But we have gone without

sugar

> > and my boys have made wonderful progress. We started Labor Day

weekend

> > and yesterday I thought I might add something with lemon juuice

and now

> > my older boy is having horrible respiratory problems. Not to

mention

> > we have fires around us today so the smoke is really bad. Anyone

have

> > recommendations? He has a horrible tight cough.

> >

> > Jill

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read

the book

> > _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the

following

> > websites:

> > http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

> > and

> > http://www.pecanbread.com

> >

> >

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Jill,

Fermented vegetables are considered an advanced food for anyone on SCD.... and

it would be far too soon yet for anyone who just started SCD on Labor Day.

Here's a link to an article on fermented veggies for SCD:

http://www.geocities.com/scd_post/SCDietFermetedfoods2.html

There are many other diets to try out there, but we can't recommend you try to

do both the BED and SCD, as there are many conflicting points.

Patti

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Also, I was reading the Body Ecology Diet

and thought I would try the fermented veggies, that's what had the

lemon juice. So I was wondering if it is the allergy or die off

since the fermented veggies are another way to introduce probiotic

into his system.

Jill

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Thanks Patti. I was getting very excited since SCD has been

wonderful for my boys but we were anxious to start another level of

healing and trying to get to eggs and other foods because meat and

broccoli is getting so boring. We'll try to slow down, it's very

difficult since the holidays are right around the corner.

Jill

>

> Jill,

>

> Fermented vegetables are considered an advanced food for anyone on

SCD.... and it would be far too soon yet for anyone who just started

SCD on Labor Day.

>

> Here's a link to an article on fermented veggies for SCD:

>

> http://www.geocities.com/scd_post/SCDietFermetedfoods2.html

>

>

> There are many other diets to try out there, but we can't recommend

you try to do both the BED and SCD, as there are many conflicting

points.

>

> Patti

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bump

>

>

> Also, I was reading the Body Ecology Diet

> and thought I would try the fermented veggies, that's what had

the

> lemon juice. So I was wondering if it is the allergy or die off

> since the fermented veggies are another way to introduce

probiotic

> into his system.

>

> Jill

>

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Thanks for the advice. We had eliminated all his food allergens for

about a year and a half but just started SDC in late August. He must

have a real leaky gut. My son just turned 5. Did you say you did

SCD for 6 months before you introduced eggs?

Jill

> >>

> >> The lemon juice is causing the resperitory problems, or the

fires?

> > Can you

> >> tell us what they are eating? You could try making a giner tea

for

> > the

> >> cough, but I don't know if they can do ginger if they have severe

> > allergies.

> >> I'm glad to hear that they're making great strides.

> >> Meleah scd 05/06

> >> iel 3.5yrs. asd, Ethan 5yrs., Mark 18mths., both nt

> >>

> >> Need help! SCD working but hit a major bump

> >>

> >>

> >> > Hi everyone!

> >> >

> >> > I wanted to share with everyone the SCD is really helpinh my

> > boys. The

> >> > changes we have seen each day has been so rewarding. We were

not

> > able

> >> > to use the recipes in the book because my boys have so many

food

> >> > allergies (eggs, almonds,dairy, fruit!) But we have gone

without

> > sugar

> >> > and my boys have made wonderful progress. We started Labor Day

> > weekend

> >> > and yesterday I thought I might add something with lemon juuice

> > and now

> >> > my older boy is having horrible respiratory problems. Not to

> > mention

> >> > we have fires around us today so the smoke is really bad.

Anyone

> > have

> >> > recommendations? He has a horrible tight cough.

> >> >

> >> > Jill

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> > For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read

> > the book

> >> > _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the

> > following

> >> > websites:

> >> > http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

> >> > and

> >> > http://www.pecanbread.com

> >> >

> >> >

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Jill.... One more quick comment....

It seems pretty early to be introducing broccoli, too. Broccoli is a cabbage

family veggie, and therefore not for beginners. I'd still consider you guys to

be beginners, frankly. Are you sure they are tolerating the broccoli, and

digesting it well?

Patti

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> > broccoli or spinach for breakfast. I really hope we can get to eggs and

nuts sometime soon.>>

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I didn't realize that. I steam it and they seem to do fine. They

are sooo limited with only meat (steak, chicken, lamb) and veggies

(spinach, broccoli, red cabbage) I'm trying to add veggies with

Vitmain K since leaky gut problems cause a deficiency in Vitamin K.

That's all they eat and it's not because they are picky eaters. They

are allergic to squash family, nightshades etc. and couldn't tolerate

any dairy, fruit or nuts. They have improved so much and really want

to eat more but I think they have such a leaky gut. Do you have any

other ideas?

>

> Jill.... One more quick comment....

>

> It seems pretty early to be introducing broccoli, too. Broccoli is

a cabbage family veggie, and therefore not for beginners. I'd still

consider you guys to be beginners, frankly. Are you sure they are

tolerating the broccoli, and digesting it well?

>

> Patti

>

>

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> > > broccoli or spinach for breakfast. I really hope we can get

to eggs and nuts sometime soon.>>

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We eliminated eggs about a month before scd because his blood work at the

allergist showed a moderate allergy to eggs. He told us that if we took

them out of his diet, we had a good chance of iel outgrowing the

allergy because of his young age and moderate reaction. We found out about

scd a couple of weeks later, and started the diet right about a month after

the allergy results. I just decided to give the eggs a try recently, and

have seen no problems with them. The doctor had told me to give it maybe a

year, but it is so hard to do scd egg free that I decided to try it anyway.

If I had seen anything negative, I would've pulled them immediately, and

waited until next April...the one year mark.

Meleah

Need help! SCD working but hit a major bump

>> >>

>> >>

>> >> > Hi everyone!

>> >> >

>> >> > I wanted to share with everyone the SCD is really helpinh my

>> > boys. The

>> >> > changes we have seen each day has been so rewarding. We were

> not

>> > able

>> >> > to use the recipes in the book because my boys have so many

> food

>> >> > allergies (eggs, almonds,dairy, fruit!) But we have gone

> without

>> > sugar

>> >> > and my boys have made wonderful progress. We started Labor Day

>> > weekend

>> >> > and yesterday I thought I might add something with lemon juuice

>> > and now

>> >> > my older boy is having horrible respiratory problems. Not to

>> > mention

>> >> > we have fires around us today so the smoke is really bad.

> Anyone

>> > have

>> >> > recommendations? He has a horrible tight cough.

>> >> >

>> >> > Jill

>> >> >

>> >> >

>> >> >

>> >> >

>> >> > For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read

>> > the book

>> >> > _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the

>> > following

>> >> > websites:

>> >> > http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

>> >> > and

>> >> > http://www.pecanbread.com

>> >> >

>> >> >

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You might want to read Tamaro's research about Vitamin K... it seems

many of the kids may not have the enzyme to convert the Vitamin K1 in foods into

the K2 the brain needs. It may be very difficult for them to pull the K they

need out of foods like dark leafy greens, since those contain the K1 form.

She recommends supplementing with Vitamin K2.... since that form is present in

only a very limited number of foods (egg yolks, organ meats). I have my

daughter on the liquid K2 from Thorne Research.

's article is here:

http://gutresearch.com/v1.html

There's a listserve for those of us who are supplementing with her protocol:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/VitaminK/

Patti

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> > > broccoli or spinach for breakfast. I really hope we can get

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Wow, that Thorne K2 is very $$, from my quick lookup on an internet

search. Where do you get yours from?

I've joined that group to get more info.

Thanks, Michele

> >

> > Jill.... One more quick comment....

> >

> > It seems pretty early to be introducing broccoli, too.

Broccoli is

> a cabbage family veggie, and therefore not for beginners. I'd

still

> consider you guys to be beginners, frankly. Are you sure they

are

> tolerating the broccoli, and digesting it well?

> >

> > Patti

> >

> >

> > Re: Need help! SCD working but hit a

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> > > > broccoli or spinach for breakfast. I really hope we can

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> to eggs and nuts sometime soon.>>

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