This is difficult... having tummy issues

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I have some questions about the diet. If I have an illegal food (ok,

my ds made a crumb cake and I didn't make something comparable that I

could have and I cracked) after I've done the intro diet, do I need to

go back and do the intro again? It was a few days ago that I slipped

up.

I seem to be tolerating stage 2 and 3 foods just fine (I'm trying to

satisfy my needs along with my husband who has no desire to be on my

diet and children who don't need to be and my symptoms had already

been under control for quite awhile due to meds which I no longer have

access to because of insurance issues). I got ahold of some stage 4

foods last night (never read the stages before but I did tonight)

which were tomato and navy beans, and after I ate for several hours I

felt ill... not like flair up ill, but like I'm coming down with the

flu ill complete with the cold sweats and goosebumps (stools are fine

though)?? I was fine by morning.

I made some chicken tonight fried in almond flour and had a bit of the

same reaction but not nearly as bad as last night and gassy . I'm

sure I need to slow down a bit... but like I said it's getting hard to

satisfy everyone's food needs around here.

I'm waiting on my probiotic yogurt starter to get here... progihealth

is apparently having a lot of orders for their starter. That's one of

the things I've been missing for the last week or so (a probiotic).

What really odd is that my 2 1/2 mo old's reoccurring yeast problems

cleared up on their own last week... so I don't think we're having

candida troubles anymore. I don't think my tummy troubles are related

to that.

Christa

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Hi Christa

> I have some questions about the diet. If I have an illegal food

(ok,

> my ds made a crumb cake and I didn't make something comparable that

I

> could have and I cracked) after I've done the intro diet, do I need

to

> go back and do the intro again? It was a few days ago that I

slipped

> up.

Some people do go back to the intro after a slip up especially if

they have a flare up. Some may do it just to clear out the illegals

even if they have no obvious symptoms.

> I seem to be tolerating stage 2 and 3 foods just fine (I'm trying to

> satisfy my needs along with my husband who has no desire to be on my

> diet and children who don't need to be and my symptoms had already

> been under control for quite awhile due to meds which I no longer

have

> access to because of insurance issues). I got ahold of some stage 4

> foods last night (never read the stages before but I did tonight)

> which were tomato and navy beans, and after I ate for several hours

I

> felt ill... not like flair up ill, but like I'm coming down with the

> flu ill complete with the cold sweats and goosebumps (stools are

fine

> though)?? I was fine by morning.

>

> I made some chicken tonight fried in almond flour and had a bit of

the

> same reaction but not nearly as bad as last night and gassy .

I'm

> sure I need to slow down a bit... but like I said it's getting hard

to

> satisfy everyone's food needs around here.

You may have been fine with these foods if you hadn't of had the

illegal crumb cake. If you have illegals especially early in the

diet some of the harmful microbes that haven't been starved out yet

may say " Yippee " and start reproducing. If you continue to have

symptoms you can either go with easier to digest foods or go back to

the intro and then gradually readd. If your symptoms remain to be un-

severe you may just want to stick with the easier to digest foods at

least until your Yogurt starter arrives. Please read the yogurt

section and the sections on die off at pecanbread.com. You may have

some die off when starting the yogurt.

See

http://pecanbread.com/badreaction.html

http://pecanbread.com/goatyogurt.html

Sheila, SCD Feb. 2001, UC 22yrs

mom of and

[Guest guest]

> If your symptoms remain to be un-

> severe you may just want to stick with the easier to digest foods at

> least until your Yogurt starter arrives. Please read the yogurt

> section and the sections on die off at pecanbread.com. You may have

> some die off when starting the yogurt.

> See

> http://pecanbread.com/badreaction.html

> http://pecanbread.com/goatyogurt.html

>

> Sheila, SCD Feb. 2001, UC 22yrs

> mom of and

>

I'm going to have to start over . I really flaired up today and I

don't know why... only thing new/different is grape juice (watered

down at that). I also had trouble with pineapple a couple days ago (I

didn't think to cook it).

I tried regular cow's milk yogurt. I don't think I'm going to be able

to tolerate it and so I made some yogurt cheese with it. That seemed

to be ok (I make the BTVC cheesecake) so I'm wondering if it was the

whey that set me off... i don't know. I'm going to have to either buy

a probiotic (probably Kirkmans since I need multivitamins for the kids

and they like their capsules) or make nut milk yogurt as I don't have

access to affordable goat's milk at this time. I'm curious to what

the nut milk yogurt is like? Anyone want to share? My baby also has

thrush (again) so I want to make sure I have a probiotic to use.

I still haven't chased down any dccc and don't think I'm going to be

able to in this area . I was hoping I could use the yogurt cheese

as a replacement but I think I'll just avoid it until I find goat's

milk somewhere.

I'm also going to start a food journal and see if that helps... two

steps forward... one step back.... I hope I start getting this right

eventually.

Christa

colitis/proctitis

under control with meds since last year

off meds for 2 mos

wheat/sugar free for 2 1/2 mos

scd for 3 weeks

[Guest guest]

Hi Christa,

> > If your symptoms remain to be un-

> > severe you may just want to stick with the easier to digest foods

at

> > least until your Yogurt starter arrives. Please read the yogurt

> > section and the sections on die off at pecanbread.com. You may

have

> > some die off when starting the yogurt.

> > See

> > http://pecanbread.com/badreaction.html

> > http://pecanbread.com/goatyogurt.html

> >

> > Sheila, SCD Feb. 2001, UC 22yrs

> > mom of and

> >

>

> I'm going to have to start over . I really flaired up today and

I

> don't know why... only thing new/different is grape juice (watered

> down at that). I also had trouble with pineapple a couple days ago

(I

> didn't think to cook it).

Most likely the raw pineapple is your culprit.

> I tried regular cow's milk yogurt. I don't think I'm going to be

able

> to tolerate it and so I made some yogurt cheese with it. That

seemed

> to be ok (I make the BTVC cheesecake) so I'm wondering if it was the

> whey that set me off... i don't know.

Before stopping the 24 cow milk yogurt please consider the scenarios

below:

3 possible reasons:

1.If you reacted to SCD 24 hour cow's milk you may be experiencing

die off. Especially if you started with more than 1/8 tsp of yogurt

2. If dripping the cheese allowed you to eat it (uncoooked) then it

may have been the lactic acid and galactose in the undripped stuff.

Some people can't tolerate these.

3. If you did tolerate it when made into yogurt cheese and cooked it

was most likely massive die off that you experienced.

> I'm going to have to either buy

> a probiotic (probably Kirkmans since I need multivitamins for the

kids

>

> I'm also going to start a food journal and see if that helps... two

> steps forward... one step back.... I hope I start getting this right

> eventually.

Going back to the intro to clear out the crumb cake and raw pineapple

(ie. illegals and foods you are 't ready for) is a good idea

especially since you are flaring up now. The food journal and slowly

introducing foods after the intro are the best tools to determine

what you are able to tolerate and what you aren't.

Sheila, SCD, Feb. 2001, UC 22yrs

mom of and