Guest guest Posted November 8, 2006 Report Share Posted November 8, 2006 List Members: Please note that the website contains the incorrect temperature for the cooling of milk prior to adding yogurt starter. We have discussed this offlist and the instructions on the website will be taken down shortly and replaced with the proper directions/yogurt making recipe. On the website it states that the milk should be cooled to " 108 and 112 degrees F " . This temperature range is far too high for the bacteria in the yogurt starter. The heated milk needs to be cooled to ROOM TEMPERATURE or below (as per Elaine's yogurt making instructions in BTVC). The range for room temperature is 20–25 °C (64-77 °F). Details about cooling the milk to room temperature before adding yogurt starter: 1.Yogurt starter should be kept refrigerated or in freezer (as per your starter's instructions). If the bacteria in the yogurt starter are added at too high a temperature they can go into thermal shock and be damaged or die. Since we need to ferment the milk fully you want to start with a full batch of healthy, lively bacteria. When the milk is cooled to room temperature it allows them to gradually acclimatize to the temperature change. (It is similar to when you are adding a new pet fish to your fish tank. You place the bag with the fish in the tank to allow the water temperatures to even out and when they are the same you let the fish out of the bag.). 2. Some of the bacteria in the yogurt starters have fairly low, optimum growth ranges. Lactobacillus casei, one of the strains in Progurt, has a low temperature range. Cooling the milk to room temperature before adding this starter will allow the L. casei to do it's part in fermenting the milk into yogurt. 3. Commercial yogurt making and the usual recipes for making yogurt differ from the SCD 24-hour yogurt recipe. We need all of the bacteria to survive for the 24-hour period. Commercial and home yogurt recipes generally ferment the milk for only 4-8 hours. If they kill off some of the bacteria because of higher cool temperatures it won't matter, as they don't want a fully fermented yogurt (a fully fermented yogurt is more acidic and tart). They ferment the milk long enough for the milk to " set up " and if a few bacteria were killed initially they'd still have enough to cause coagulation (the gelling of the milk). For commercial makers of yogurt it saves them time and money to only cool to ~108°F; it means they can produce many more batches of yogurt and make more money. The SCD yogurt takes longer but the 24-hour fermentation period provides SCD yogurt with extremely high numbers of good bacteria. Sheila, SCD Feb. 2001, UC 22yrs Pecanbread moderator Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2006 Report Share Posted November 8, 2006 OK so I just made a big batch of goat yoghurt using the 108 degrees. This is our second batch. Does this mean I should throw it away? Have I been feeding my boy bad yoghurt for the last 2 weeks? le Zack 8 yrs ASD SCD 2 weeks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2006 Report Share Posted November 8, 2006 > > OK so I just made a big batch of goat yoghurt using the 108 degrees. > This is our second batch. Does this mean I should throw it away? Have > I been feeding my boy bad yoghurt for the last 2 weeks? > le > Zack 8 yrs ASD > SCD 2 weeks > Don't throw it away. I'used to do it Elaines' way and then started the Pecanbread method and it has been tasty and helpful. Just make the next batch cooled to room temperature before combining with the starter. Carol F. SCD 6 years, celiac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2006 Report Share Posted November 8, 2006 Oh, praise the Lord! I was going to cry! Thank you! le son Zack 8yrs ASD SCD 2 weeks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2006 Report Share Posted November 8, 2006 > > Oh, praise the Lord! I was going to cry! Thank you! > le > son Zack 8yrs ASD > SCD 2 weeks > Cry over spilled milk, not hot milk! Carol F. SCD 6 years, celiac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2006 Report Share Posted November 8, 2006 Hi nassal00, Yes, it applies to any milk that is used to make yogurt. The nut milk should be room temperature when adding starter. Although you don't have to worry about fermenting lactose with nut milk you do want to get the highest amount of healthy bacteria in the final nut yogurt. Sheila, SCD Feb. 2001, UC 22yrs mom of Em and Dan > > List Members: > > Please note that the website contains the incorrect temperature for the cooling of milk prior to adding yogurt starter. Does this apply to nut yougurt too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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