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Trudy,

I do understand what you feel is a one sided view of 's experience. But

they are her experiences and they are real to her. I don't think being nasty

and calling her names because of it is something that this board or any other

needs to focus on. Take me for example....

I come to this board and others to get helpful information. If I feel that the

message being posted has no value for me...I move on. However, I don't respond

to someone's email to me on a public board and then decide they need to be

called names. If I have something to say to you that is between you and I, I

will take it to email and leave it there. wrote a personal email and it

should have been responded to in the same manner.

I choose not to judge or name call, because where is sitting any of us

could have been sitting there, wanting to get revenge, and hurting because of

what we feel is an injustice. Who am I to judge how she does that. You

commented that you did not know her personal; haven't talked with her. Then why

would you think it is your right to judge her behavior. How many times have we

all been judged because of our weight? How many times have people named called

because they thought you were lazy; how many times have you seen something that

no one else has seen and you wish you knew how to make others see it?

Your comment about her scaring people...Well, let's just say, if major surgery

and it's complications don't scare you, then neither should . She is

talking about the complications. Why is that scarry? Bottom line is this...I

don't care who is fighting with ...if she took it to email...so should U!

Jai

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Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 21:55:35 -0500

Subject: Re: In response to Jai...

Sheeish.... le " you go girl!! "

Trudy, Indiana

In response to Jai...

In a message dated 10/3/00 6:47:16 PM Central Daylight Time,

MiniGastricBypass (AT) egroups (DOT) com writes:

<< Was this necessary to bring to the list. What are you trying to prove?

That

you can tell off? This did not need to be forwarded to this list.

Somehow I know my response will not get through. But it is ok. I am not

one

of 's militia's either, however, it is not necessary to call her names

to tell her not to write to you. Have you all lost so much judgement that

name calling is the only way to talk to one another. has a different

opinion. Unlike the people here on this list. I for one don't agree with

her however, I will not stoop to the level of name calling and bashing her

because her opinion differs from mine. A nice " thank you, but I have made

my

own decision " would have sufficed. Or is that too mature?

>>

Jai

No one has to sit

idly by and allow someone to insult their intelligence.

" No one is asking you or telling any one to sit idle while their intelligence is

being insulted! Take it to email where it orginated! "

<You say there was

another way to handle this...perhaps so...but it's NOT the ONLY way. This

list is not being moderated any more so, ALL posts go through. You have

already been affected by the propaganda, and believe this list is censored.

It is NOT. >

It was being moderated and I know it for a fact. Please don't unsult my

intelligence by saying it was not!

<The " spawn of Satan " > And what name did she call you le????

is singling out ALL new approvals and others that she

feels are weak to bombard with unsolicited email. Not only is this

harassment...but it is criminal. So, don't malign or berate those who attempt

to stand up for themselves.>

I never malign or berated anyone. Stand up for yourself. Shout it to the

hills! She took it to email and that's where it should have stayed!

< " evil incarnate " > Again, what names is she calling you le?

< Your sarcastic response wasn't so positive or sensitive.> If my tone was

sarcastic I do apologize. It was not meant to be...only to show once again,

this does not need to be dealt with here. did not bring it here and it

should have been left off this board. <BUT, WHAT SHE IS NOT FREE TO DO IS

IMPOSE HER WARPED VIEWS

ON OTHERS! Some other place, maybe...but NOT HERE. So she and her followers

can take that BULL $* (rhymes with HIT) SOMEWHERE else.>

So in essence what you are saying is that free speech is not something you will

tolerate here? LOL She didn't bring it here! Someone else did! LOL

And as far as she and her followers are concern...I am not sure who you are

referring to, but I don't follow anyone. I make up my own mine. Very

eloquently stated. (BULL $ rhymes with HIT)

When comes to this board and starts calling you and everyone else the

names that she has been called, I will tell her the same thing...TAKE IT TO

EMAIL!!!

Ya know it is so funny...You keep talking about wanted this board to be

positive, but it's ok to come here and post a private email to her maligning

her!

Call me whatever you want dearie. Follower, one of 's militia...etc. I

will and HAVE done the same for bashing people.

<I would have written you privately, but you chose to castigate another list

member publicly, so it was only fitting that the response you receive be public

as well. So, you may email me privately if you feel the need to

respond...negative rhetoric is not needed on this list.> But it is ok when you

respond negatively...LOL

Never did I castigate anyone on this list...I stated and will state again. IT

WAS A PERSONAL EMAIL AND IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN DEALT WITH THERE. AND THANK YOU

DANIELLE I HAVE BEEN THROUGHLY PUT IN MY PLACE!!!! Lol

My whole point was stop the D----(rhymes with Sam)! name calling. Dang...

Jai

le

(I need a cold glass of water...Sheesh)

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Jai,

You are absolutley right. I must admit that I am sorry for fighting back. I

am usually more even tempered and can only think that being under so much stress

myself, with the MGB desicion and the getting my package together,

the waiting for accredidation from my insurance

(which by the way never came) has me alittle

defensive. I learned to live with my weight by

not having such " thin " skin, and lately it has been extremely hard to control my

emotions.

Thank you for having the sense of mind to notice

how nasty I was becoming.

And again, I am very sorry!

Trudy, Indiana

pre-op

Re: Digest Number 2230

Sorry...that response was directed to Alan.

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