Banana/dilution/honey

[Guest guest]

Thank you so much for your answers.

About the banana and stool, (sorry for details but I guess they are

quite common on this page...) I know it´s the banana because I

recognize the parts of them, with a lot of small balls looking like

they were covered with spiders with many legs, some strings from the

fruit I guess. She´s not very intensly chewing...I think about

convincing her to mash it and it might be more completely taken up.

We would be sorry in this moment to take the banana off.

Should the juice be diluted 50% all through the diet or just during

the intro?

When is it possible to start with honey?

regards from Sweden

> <<We have started the very ripe bananas with just a little bit the first

> day (after 4 days intro). Stool has been more loose than during the

> intro (and I can see the parts as usual). Should we take the bananas

> off, or continue and wait for the stool to tighten up?>>

>

> O-kayyyyy..... so you have already done the intro diet? I thought

you were asking about what foods to do on intro because you were about

to start it. ?? It does not seem unusual that you saw looser stools

on intro.... the body sort of " clears out " ... and you may have some

bacterial die-off, too... that could cause looser stools. At this

point, I don't know if you can say that the ripe banana is causing the

looser stool.... since it could be from die-off. You could pull it if

you want to and see what happens, but you do need to be prepared for

big changes, and the possibility that the child will not feel well,

in the beginning... sometimes for a few weeks. Everything is changing

over from a very different type of digestion.

>

> <<Talking about kids (3-5 years) on the intro diet, how have you others

> been thinking about the carbs they need for the brain, if they do NOT

> eat the carrots? We had some trouble with that.>>

>

> There are some ideas on the www.pecanbread.com website under

" Overcoming Difficulties " , for " picky eaters " .... and in the recipe

section, there are some " sneaky " recipes for getting pureed veggies

baked into meatballs, pancakes, etc..... and other ways to hide

healthy veggies.

>

> If your kids truly do not tolerate carrots, you can use something

like butternut squash.... which is usually well tolerated and is a

good carb source.

>

> Patti

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[Guest guest]

I also think it's more likely the loose stools... and the " spidery " looking

stuff is die-off related. If the gut is pretty damaged, I'm not surprised that

undigested food would be coming through, if the child doesn't chew well.... but

I do think that the stringy stuff could be dead bacteria/yeast... rather than

just banana. By the way, ripe banana *usually* tends to be more " binding " .....

in other words, firms up the stool, rather than the opposite.

I also think you should pretty much be diluting the juice for quite some time to

come. I am not a big fan of juice as a drink for kids at ALL..... as I think

it's just too high in natural sugars and takes away their appetite for other

foods. I'd prefer to see a kid drinking just water.... or lemonade made with

fresh lemon juice and honey.... or saccharin.

Patti

Banana/dilution/honey

Thank you so much for your answers

About the banana and loosening-up stool, (sorry for details but I

guess they are quite common on this page..

During the 4 days intro we saw formed stools which is NOT common here.

After including banana (yes very ripe) slowly, stool has gone back to

diarrea.

I know it´s the banana because I recognize the parts of them, with a

lot of small balls looking like they were covered with spiders with

many legs, some strings from the fruit I guess.

She´s not very intensly chewing...I think about convincing her to mash

it and it might be more completely taken up.

We would be sorry in this moment to take the banana off. What do you

think?

Should the juice be diluted 50% all through the diet or just during

the intro?

When is it possible to start with honey, and with coconut milk? The

last, does it go under nut milk stage 2, although its not a nut?

regards from Lotta, Sweden (thats why spelling is...)

family SCD 1 week incl intro.

daughter asd

[Guest guest]

Hi Lotta,

> About the banana and loosening-up stool, (sorry for details but I

> guess they are quite common on this page..

> During the 4 days intro we saw formed stools which is NOT common

here.

> After including banana (yes very ripe) slowly, stool has gone back

to

> diarrea.

How many ripe bananas is she eating per day? Is she eating the

banana all at once or is it spread out throughout the day.

It may be that she doesn't tolerate bananas even very ripe ones yet

or that she is having die off. If you remove the bananas for 2-3

days and the stools return to good formed stools that would point to

not being ready for the banana. There could be any number of reasons

for this. How are her stools now?

> She´s not very intensly chewing...I think about convincing her to

mash

> it and it might be more completely taken up.

You could make a fruit smoothie with the ripe banana if you are going

to continue with it. In a blender add water and banana and blend

until smooth. Ad just enough water to make it drinkable.

> We would be sorry in this moment to take the banana off. What do you

> think?

If the diarrhea continues you may want to try removing it for a

couple of days to see if she isn't tolerating it.

> Should the juice be diluted 50% all through the diet or just during

> the intro?

The legal juices should be diluted for *at least* the first month.

At 5.5 years into the diet when I have juices I still dilute them.

> When is it possible to start with honey, and with coconut milk? The

> last, does it go under nut milk stage 2, although its not a nut?

The honey can be slowly added after the intro. If you are

experimenting with banana I would wait until you have a better idea

if she tolerates that first before trying the honey. (Make sure you

have clear, pure honey)

Coconut milk can be tried after the intro also. I'd also suggest

waiting until you get the banana issue sorted out. When you start

the homemade coconut milk it should be diluted and start small and

slowly work up the amounts over a week or two. Coconut milk may

cause more die off - and you don't want to confuse further die off

with intolerance of the coconut milk.

> regards from Lotta, Sweden (thats why spelling is...)

Your spelling is great Let me know if some of the comments

above are not clear.

Sheila, SCD Feb. 2001, UC 22yrs

mom of and