Re: ... having tummy issues... when and how to introduce yogurt...

[Guest guest]

> I tried regular cow's milk yogurt. I don't think I'm going to be

> able

> > to tolerate it and so I made some yogurt cheese with it. That

> seemed

> > to be ok (I make the BTVC cheesecake) so I'm wondering if it was the

> > whey that set me off... i don't know.

>

> Before stopping the 24 cow milk yogurt please consider the scenarios

> below:

> 3 possible reasons:

> 1.If you reacted to SCD 24 hour cow's milk you may be experiencing

> die off. Especially if you started with more than 1/8 tsp of yogurt

>

> 2. If dripping the cheese allowed you to eat it (uncoooked) then it

> may have been the lactic acid and galactose in the undripped stuff.

> Some people can't tolerate these.

>

> 3. If you did tolerate it when made into yogurt cheese and cooked it

> was most likely massive die off that you experienced.

I am not sure what happened. I was doing very well up until this

point. I've restarted, and I need to know when and how to add in

yogurt. I'm making a batch right now to have ready. I was going to

attempt to stay on the intro diet for at least 2 days... if not 3 or 4

(Thankgiving's going to be tough this year).

So... how do I introduce the yogurt? Is the probiotic(s) effective in

yogurt cheese if I choose to eat it that way (non-cooked)? How much

do I eat when I do start it? I'm remembering that I should probably

start it on day five. Can I do the yogurt and the probiotic from

Kirkmans? I need to order it if I need it.

My poor baby doesn't seem to tolerate yeast well at all, and she's

getting yeasty again so I want to get that under control. It's not

bothering me at all. I don't know how what is going on with my body

effects like it does, but it's pretty obvious (and it makes her really

fussy). We don't have insurance right now or I'd be off getting

another diflucan prescription. My dh became self employed and we're

having a tough time getting health insurance because of my issues (i'm

working on it, though).

Christa

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Hi Christa,

> I am not sure what happened. I was doing very well up until this

> point. I've restarted, and I need to know when and how to add in

> yogurt. I'm making a batch right now to have ready. I was going to

> attempt to stay on the intro diet for at least 2 days... if not 3

or 4

> (Thankgiving's going to be tough this year).

>

> So... how do I introduce the yogurt?

This time start with a small amount (1/8 tsp) of dripped 24 hour

yogurt. Since you tolerated the cheesecake made with dripped yogurt

cheese most likely you experienced die off. Epsom salt baths and/or

activated charcoal may help eliminate/reduce these die offsymptoms -

which are often confused with no being able to tolerate it. It will

be important to start very small and slowly increase the amounts to

keep these uncomfioortable symptoms to a minimum.

> Is the probiotic(s) effective in

> yogurt cheese if I choose to eat it that way (non-cooked)?

As long as you don't freeze or cook the dripped yogurt (yogurt

cheese) the probiotic will be very effective - in fact it will be

concentrated so it is doubly important to start with a small amount.

> How much

> do I eat when I do start it?

Start with 1/8 tsp, do the epsom salt baths (if you are having die

off symp.) and depending on your level of comfort increase it every

few days by doubling it or if you are having too much die off skip a

few days in between as your body cleans out the nasties etc. If you

are unsure if your symptoms are intolerance or die off write into the

list and describe them and we can try to help you decipher them.

> I'm remembering that I should probably

> start it on day five. Can I do the yogurt and the probiotic from

> Kirkmans? I need to order it if I need it.

If you are using the probiotic from Kirkman's that should be L.

acidpophilus. Some yogurt starters contain this others don't ( The

Progurt starter has L. casei not L. acidophilus) It is okay to use

both yogurt and probiotics but if taking a probiotic powder/capsule

Elaine caustioned on doing more than 3 billion CFU's/day (which can

be split up 1.5 billion in the am and 1.5 billion CFU's in the pm.

> My poor baby doesn't seem to tolerate yeast well at all, and she's

> getting yeasty again so I want to get that under control. It's not

> bothering me at all. I don't know how what is going on with my

body

> effects like it does, but it's pretty obvious (and it makes her

really

> fussy). We don't have insurance right now or I'd be off getting

> another diflucan prescription. My dh became self employed and we're

> having a tough time getting health insurance because of my issues

(i'm

> working on it, though).

Is the 2.5 mo old on formula or Breastfeed or something else? What

symptoms does she have?

Sheila, SCD, Feb. 2001, UC 22yrs

mom of and

[Guest guest]

Sheila, thank you for your help. I really appreciate it.

> > My poor baby doesn't seem to tolerate yeast well at all, and she's

> > getting yeasty again so I want to get that under control. It's not

> > bothering me at all. I don't know how what is going on with my

> body

> > effects like it does, but it's pretty obvious (and it makes her

> really

> > fussy)...

>

> Is the 2.5 mo old on formula or Breastfeed or something else? What

> symptoms does she have?

She's breastfed, so is my toddler. Both have yeast rashes in the

diaper area right now. Just red and puffy, no blisters. The toddler

doesn't seem to care at all. The baby cries a lot when she's

yeasty. Her rash is more raised and bumpy (whereas the toddler is

just red). She also gets thrush (and that really bothers her, too).

The first time she broke out, she was 2 weeks old and she actually

looked like she had baby acne. I treated the thrush with genetian

violet, and her face and diaper area cleared up. It would come back

as soon as I'd get it cleared up, though. I treated her two more

times, and she got a virus (fever) and so I took her into the doctor.

The yeast was flared up, too, and so was her face. The doctor put us

both on diflucan and I was amazed at how fast her " baby acne " totally

cleared up, too. She's had a little bit of yeast issues since then,

but when I started on the diet, she cleared up.

She had thrush again last week (none on her face), and I used the

genetian violet. It didn't totally take care of it, and she has the

bumpy diaper rash back. She's been fussy, too.

Oh, it doesn't seem to affect the toddler much at all, but she did

have a few red bumps around her mouth for awhile when all the stuff

was going on with the baby. I don't think she does now, though.

Christa

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Hi Christa,

Since both are breastfed the yeast flare-up could be due to the crumb

cake or pineapple (that you weren't able to tolerate). They're eating

what comes through your breastmilk. I remember eating beans when

breastfeeding (PreSCD) and my daughter was up crying all night with

gas. That was a lesson learned the hard way.

Once you get settled into the diet the yeast issues should clear up

again for them. In the meantime, epsom salt baths may help with the

rashes.

Sheila, SCD Feb. 2001, UC 22yrs

mom of and

> > Is the 2.5 mo old on formula or Breastfeed or something else? What

> > symptoms does she have?

>

> She's breastfed, so is my toddler. Both have yeast rashes in the

> diaper area right now. Just red and puffy, no blisters. The to

> cleared up, too. She's had a little bit of yeast issues since then,

> but when I started on the diet, she cleared up.