Guest guest Posted December 3, 2006 Report Share Posted December 3, 2006 Could it be that my daughter's dairy sensitivity could be gone now. We have been casein-free for over 18 months straight. I am as strict with her NOT having dairy as I have been with her diet these last 18 months. Lately she stole some sour cream & onion chips from someone in school & had no reaction. # weeks ago she stole a sip of her cousin's milk(cow's) and we saw no hyperactivity, no sinus infections! My husband let our daughter eat his eggs last night not thinking he uses butter to fry his. We use Organic extra virgin olive oil for Kali's if they're fried. She didn't have a reaction this time at all either! What is the safest way to see if I can start introducing dairy to her again? I am thinking here that she tends to accumulate toxins in foods & environment and have allergies to them after a while. Would this apply to casein as well? Am I thinking along the right lines here? I am really interested in trying to figure out if we have healed enough to add dairy back into her diet. This would help us expand a bit too. She can tolerate the goat yogurt as well. But, we had to back up to nut yogurt for a while. Jenn & K Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2006 Report Share Posted December 4, 2006 Hi Jenn, << Could it be that my daughter's dairy sensitivity could be gone now. We have been casein-free for over 18 months straight. I am as strict with her NOT having dairy as I have been with her diet these last 18 months. Lately she stole some sour cream & onion chips from someone in school & had no reaction. # weeks ago she stole a sip of her cousin's milk(cow's) and we saw no hyperactivity, no sinus infections! My husband let our daughter eat his eggs last night not thinking he uses butter to fry his. We use Organic extra virgin olive oil for Kali's if they're fried. She didn't have a reaction this time at all either! >> It sounds as if her sensitivity is improving greatly, if not gone altogether. << What is the safest way to see if I can start introducing dairy to her again? I am thinking here that she tends to accumulate toxins in foods & environment and have allergies to them after a while. Would this apply to casein as well?>> This may be true especially for kids/people who are still on the road to recovery but have a way to go yet. They may have a difficult time filtering all the nasty gunk out of their systems and the junk accumulates. I think that Epsom salt baths and activated charcoal will help a bit with this by pulling the toxins out of the body. With the casein in dairy she may be able to handle a bit but the foods you mentioned would seem to have only small amounts, so I'd be careful about introducing amounts that are too large. << Am I thinking along the right lines here? I am really interested in trying to figure out if we have healed enough to add dairy back into her diet. This would help us expand a bit too. She can tolerate the goat yogurt as well. But, we had to back up to nut yogurt for a while. Jenn & K >> What happened with the goat yogurt? It may be best to put the dairy test on hold until she is able to tolerate the goat yogurt again. Homemade dairy yogurt contains bacteria and enzymes that break down proteins and change the structure of casein. The nut yogurt is great, but the dairy portion of goat yogurt allows the bacteria (in the goat yogurt) to travel further in the body to heal lower parts of the bowel. Also, it wouldn't have to be large amounts of the goat yogurt either. When you restart the goat it's best to begin again with small amounts and increase as she will likely have some more die off/clearing out of " gunk " as the body does more healing. As she stabilizes on the goat yogurt again then trying small amounts of the legal goat cheeses would help test to see how she is now with dairy/casein. I think it's fantastic that she's doing so great!! Please keep us all updated! Sheila, SCD Feb. 2001, UC 22yrs mom of and Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2006 Report Share Posted December 4, 2006 I meant that we started with goat yogurt at 3 months but, she couldn'r tolerate it at that time. I then made nut yogurt for 6 months and she easily tolerated the goat yogurt after that. We haven't been giving her the goat yogurt again yet due to not having anymore starter. The goat cheeses would be the best to figure out if there is going to be a reaction or not. OK. She really is healing. I see it in every aspect of her life. Her GI symptoms are GONE. All of them! I am relieved to be over that struggle. Thanks for the help Sheila. Jenn & K Re: dairy sensitivity gone now....? Hi Jenn, << Could it be that my daughter's dairy sensitivity could be gone now. We have been casein-free for over 18 months straight. I am as strict with her NOT having dairy as I have been with her diet these last 18 months. Lately she stole some sour cream & onion chips from someone in school & had no reaction. # weeks ago she stole a sip of her cousin's milk(cow's) and we saw no hyperactivity, no sinus infections! My husband let our daughter eat his eggs last night not thinking he uses butter to fry his. We use Organic extra virgin olive oil for Kali's if they're fried. She didn't have a reaction this time at all either! >> It sounds as if her sensitivity is improving greatly, if not gone altogether. << What is the safest way to see if I can start introducing dairy to her again? I am thinking here that she tends to accumulate toxins in foods & environment and have allergies to them after a while. Would this apply to casein as well?>> This may be true especially for kids/people who are still on the road to recovery but have a way to go yet. They may have a difficult time filtering all the nasty gunk out of their systems and the junk accumulates. I think that Epsom salt baths and activated charcoal will help a bit with this by pulling the toxins out of the body. With the casein in dairy she may be able to handle a bit but the foods you mentioned would seem to have only small amounts, so I'd be careful about introducing amounts that are too large. << Am I thinking along the right lines here? I am really interested in trying to figure out if we have healed enough to add dairy back into her diet. This would help us expand a bit too. She can tolerate the goat yogurt as well. But, we had to back up to nut yogurt for a while. Jenn & K >> What happened with the goat yogurt? It may be best to put the dairy test on hold until she is able to tolerate the goat yogurt again. Homemade dairy yogurt contains bacteria and enzymes that break down proteins and change the structure of casein. The nut yogurt is great, but the dairy portion of goat yogurt allows the bacteria (in the goat yogurt) to travel further in the body to heal lower parts of the bowel. Also, it wouldn't have to be large amounts of the goat yogurt either. When you restart the goat it's best to begin again with small amounts and increase as she will likely have some more die off/clearing out of " gunk " as the body does more healing. As she stabilizes on the goat yogurt again then trying small amounts of the legal goat cheeses would help test to see how she is now with dairy/casein. I think it's fantastic that she's doing so great!! Please keep us all updated! Sheila, SCD Feb. 2001, UC 22yrs mom of and Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2006 Report Share Posted December 5, 2006 Hi Jenn, << The goat cheeses would be the best to figure out if there is going to be a reaction or not. >> It is best to try the " use freely " types of goat cheese that are listed on page 180 of BTVC. For example: goat cheddar mild or medium, goat havarti, goat brick etc.. << OK. She really is healing. I see it in every aspect of her life. Her GI symptoms are GONE. All of them! I am relieved to be over that struggle. >> Wow, that's fantastic! It's been a real struggle but well worth it, right? Sheila, SCD Feb. 2001, UC 22yrs mom of and Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2006 Report Share Posted December 5, 2006 Yes. And, no matter how much better she gets, we will not be going back to the SAD or to GF/CF. The foods on SCD are much more nutritious. It has been more than a struggle but, she's pulling through nicely! Jenn & K Re: dairy sensitivity gone now....? Hi Jenn, << The goat cheeses would be the best to figure out if there is going to be a reaction or not. >> It is best to try the " use freely " types of goat cheese that are listed on page 180 of BTVC. For example: goat cheddar mild or medium, goat havarti, goat brick etc.. << OK. She really is healing. I see it in every aspect of her life. Her GI symptoms are GONE. All of them! I am relieved to be over that struggle. >> Wow, that's fantastic! It's been a real struggle but well worth it, right? Sheila, SCD Feb. 2001, UC 22yrs mom of and Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2006 Report Share Posted December 5, 2006 Sheila, I sent K some legal goat chedder to school for lunch along with some other stuff and she ate it today. No reaction! We are victorious over her casein sensitivity!! We probably won't be giving iut everyday at first though. Jenn & K Re: dairy sensitivity gone now....? Hi Jenn, << The goat cheeses would be the best to figure out if there is going to be a reaction or not. >> It is best to try the " use freely " types of goat cheese that are listed on page 180 of BTVC. For example: goat cheddar mild or medium, goat havarti, goat brick etc.. << OK. She really is healing. I see it in every aspect of her life. Her GI symptoms are GONE. All of them! I am relieved to be over that struggle. >> Wow, that's fantastic! It's been a real struggle but well worth it, right? Sheila, SCD Feb. 2001, UC 22yrs mom of and Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 6, 2006 Report Share Posted December 6, 2006 Hi Jenn, Awesome, Awesome, Awesome!! It's prudent to skip a few days in between while you are introducing the cheese. Congrats! A new food to add to your " arsenal " ! Sheila, SCD Feb. 2001, UC 23yrs mom of and > I sent K some legal goat chedder to school for lunch along with some other stuff and she ate it today. No reaction! We are victorious over her casein sensitivity!! > We probably won't be giving iut everyday at first though. Jenn & K Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 6, 2006 Report Share Posted December 6, 2006 Should we be able to add milk, butter & other dairy as well if we go slow? I really want to start making her some different foods or the some of the same with casein included. Thanks for your encouragement Sheila. Also, I would like to know if adding back in the casein will cause her C to come back? I really hope not. Jenn & K Re: dairy sensitivity gone now....? Hi Jenn, Awesome, Awesome, Awesome!! It's prudent to skip a few days in between while you are introducing the cheese. Congrats! A new food to add to your " arsenal " ! Sheila, SCD Feb. 2001, UC 23yrs mom of and > I sent K some legal goat chedder to school for lunch along with some other stuff and she ate it today. No reaction! We are victorious over her casein sensitivity!! > We probably won't be giving iut everyday at first though. Jenn & K Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 7, 2006 Report Share Posted December 7, 2006 Hi Jenn << Should we be able to add milk, butter & other dairy as well if we go slow? >> Eventually butter and other dairy (cheeses etc..), but milk is not legal on the SCD. Milk is full of lactose. << Also, I would like to know if adding back in the casein will cause her C to come back? I really hope not. Jenn & K >> It shouldn't cause her C to come back. However, if she has a regression/flare up I'd back up to easier to digest foods until she is out of it. You may not even have to remove dairy, but it's something to keep in mind if it ever happens. Hopefully it never will Sheila, SCD Feb. 2001, UC 23yrs mom of and Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 7, 2006 Report Share Posted December 7, 2006 I didn't realize milk wasn't allowed on SCD. I'm glad I asked. That will be something I don't introduce to her. Thanks, Jenn & K Re: dairy sensitivity gone now....? Hi Jenn << Should we be able to add milk, butter & other dairy as well if we go slow? >> Eventually butter and other dairy (cheeses etc..), but milk is not legal on the SCD. Milk is full of lactose. << Also, I would like to know if adding back in the casein will cause her C to come back? I really hope not. Jenn & K >> It shouldn't cause her C to come back. However, if she has a regression/flare up I'd back up to easier to digest foods until she is out of it. You may not even have to remove dairy, but it's something to keep in mind if it ever happens. Hopefully it never will Sheila, SCD Feb. 2001, UC 23yrs mom of and Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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