Re: Re: Rotation/SCD diet with a limited diet?/Patti

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Hi Patti:

I'm interested in the Tamaro paper about calicum can you post it.

Thank you.

Jeanne

Patti wrote:

Cathy,

Let's take a step back. You're mostly concerned about your son's behavior,

right? You said:

<been very silly, a lot as I see it ADHD type behaviour etc.. Things

have been nuts at home too...this is more than just die-off, >>

..... and you said you felt this is due to all the eggs he's been getting lately.

I'm not saying that's not a possibility, but there could be a number of

different things factoring in.

First and foremost, the whole goal is to get that leaky gut healed up... one of

the positive benefits of which is so that chances of sensitivities to foods will

diminish. That's MY goal for you.... getting to the healing, as effectively and

quickly as possible. Sometimes that means pulling back foods that are harder to

digest. Experience has taught us... and frankly, Elaine herself taught us this

specifically.... that these foods: cabbage family, legumes and seeds, etc. ....

need to be considered more advanced and not started too soon, or healing will be

impeded.

We just hate to have to tell people they need to pull foods out... especially

veggies! But, that *might* be necessary.

First thing I would do is get all the illegal juices out. ly, although I

know Tropicana orange juice is " legal " , I don't ever buy it. I know I am very

lucky in that my daughter is happy with plain water to drink... or SCD honey

lemonade (fresh lemon juice, water and a tidge of honey... you could use

saccharin). I have a juicer, so if she was a big juice fan, I would probably

make my own fresh apple juice.... which is the ONLY legal apple juice other than

fresh farm-pressed, unfiltered cider. I can't easily find that type where I

live, so it's a lot easier just to make some on my kitchen counter.

**Side note: And slipping a carrot in with the apples makes a lovely, sweet,

orange apple juice that my (non-SCD) 4 yr old granddaughter LOVES, even though

she wouldn't dream of eating an actual carrot.**

So.... if you stick with legal juices (dilute, dilute, dilute).... I think that

would be a very good first step.

Next, it sounds like you are going to need to remove baking soda because it's

causing a reaction for both kids. That will sure impact your baking results...

but might make them much more comfortable. Any time you can make a kid feel

better physically, they are going to be happier and calmer, at least that's been

true at my house.

You didn't say when you started the SCdophilus. I'd be interested to know. It's

a very important supp to have going in.... but I know that *some* kids get

hyper, silly, etc.-type behaviors from probiotics. We are not entirely sure why.

Tamaro thinks it may have to due with the probiotics (and those in

yogurt can do this, too) breaking down/dissolving oxalate crystals.... which is

a good thing, except that the waste product, oxalic acid, can be irritating to

the gut. Then you also need to have adequate amounts of the fat soluable

vitamins on board (A, D, K) to allow the body to put free calcium down where it

belongs... in the bones and teeth.... instead of floating around causing trouble

in the brain. Let me know if you don't have the link to her article. It's just

something to think about. I would at least read her paper before giving

any more of that calcium supplement, and it *may* be a clue to the behavior

you're seeing in this past month.

On the other foods.... I think it would be *ideal* to pull out ALL the more

advanced things...and add them back slowly, one at a time, watching closely.....

but if you don't want to pull out the broccoli and cauliflower just yet, then

leave them in for now.... and see how things go.

Can you possibly prepare the bell peppers in a way that you can remove the skin?

You could roast them in the oven.... the scrape the inner flesh away from the

skin with a spoon. I know... that sounds like a lot of work, but it might make

them more digestible for now.... and still something you could possibly leave in

their diets. Oh... and don't worry about de-seeding the zucchini... if they are

young slender ones, the tiny soft seeds inside are not a problem.

The raisins are " iffy " , for sure. I think you will need to assess that

situation.... how their BMs look.... how many raisins are they eating.... how

well are they chewing them? Etc, etc. I know that my daughter gets loose stools

if she has more than five or six raisins in a day.... and I have to dole them

out and make sure she chews them, or they go right through. Then I have to just

not give her any for several weeks. There are some similar substitutes I can

think of... but they'd involve some added work for you, and a food dehydrator.

Let me know if you even want me to elaborate.

You might find that just changing to the legal juices and pulling baking soda

will make a difference. I truly feel that focusing on getting the healing really

moving forward will eliminate the worry over developing more sensitivities, but

you can certainly consider rotating foods if you still feel strongly about that.

I don't think it's something you'd have to keep doing forever.

Let's see how it goes from there.

Patti

Re: Rotation/SCD diet with a limited diet?

Patti,

Sorry for not enough detail.

The apple juice is canadian-Tropicana pure premium apple juice-Not

from concentrate..all it is a fresh pressed apples

Pear juice is R.W. Knudsen Organic pear nectar-Juice from organic

pears,ascorbic acid

Gi Pro Health Scdophilus

Kal crystal calcium-vitamin d, calcium gluconate,calcium

lactate........... has only had a small amount of Calcium

once.....2 weeks ago.

Taking veges from them is not going to be easy..especially

...she is hungry sometimes now...eggs, yogurt..make her

sick......If she has a choice of going hungry or eating more meat she

will go hungry everytime.

Thanks,

Cathy

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Jeanne,

It is posted here: http://gutresearch.com/v1.html

You can find out more about the Vitamin K protocol at her yahoo group:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/VitaminK/

Patti

Re: Re: Rotation/SCD diet with a limited diet?/Patti

Hi Patti:

I'm interested in the Tamaro paper about calicum can you post it.

Thank you.

Jeanne

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