Guest guest Posted September 1, 2006 Report Share Posted September 1, 2006 We are less than two weeks into the diet, and certainly not experts, but we decided it was worth doing because we are looking at the rest of our kids' lives. It is one thing to look " weird " by eating differently; it is another entirely to look " weird " with ASD traits - in our case, Aspergers, which has gotten our son picked on quite a bit because he is enough " different " or " weird " to make kids pick on him. And even more importantly to us, we realize that the " weirdness " with the ASD is only the outward manifestation of the inward very ill health. Even if we never see a change in the outward ASD, for which we are truly hoping, it is still worth it to us to do this to heal the underlying gut issues. Our 9 year old Aspergers' son tested IGG allergic to 27 foods. His gluten/casein peptide test indicated leaky gut. His OAT test shows high yeast. Our 4-yr-old son's OAT showed both high yeast and Clostridia; the Clostridia actually affects the brain. Our 21mth old shows signs of yeast and food allergies, even though not formally tested. I am more concerned about the health they will live with for the rest of their lives, than I am that we are *all* limited in our food right now and truly not enjoying it, and having to eat in a " weird " way compared to the people around us. I am not worried about how different our boys seem to others for their food; in 20 years no one will remember that, but my boys will still be living with the health I have helped to foster or have chosen not to foster for whatever reasons. We are choosing to foster healing and good health, even though we are not enjoying this journey. I don't mean this to sound harsh in any way; if it does, please forgive me - I am impassioned on the subject. I am on a crusade to defeat autism in our family and tend to come across rather strongly. I truly hope your grandson's parents can look at the fruit of SCD in the other family members and decide that their son's health is worth the effort. If I can be of any help, please email me! Lynn QUESTION TO ALL PARENTS: How did you overcome your resistance to trying SCD? My DGS has ASD. My kids (his parents) hate, HATE, the idea of special diets. They think they are limiting, make kids look weird, are nonsence. But I know that our boy needs this diet. Four other members of our family, one also on the spectrum, are getting so many benefits from it. It is so frustrating. How did you overcome your resistance to the diet? Any suggestions? I really have tried so many things but they still won't budge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2006 Report Share Posted September 2, 2006 Hi Kathy. I am afraid that, if your kids have seen other family members benefit from SCD, including one on the spectrum, and still are resistant to putting your grandchild on it, that you may be fighting a losing battle. And its clear that you are knowledgeable about SCD and have already made several arguments on behalf of the diet. Have they read BTVC? I personally think any child on the spectrum can benefit from SCD, but especially if your grandchild shows any kind of gastro-related irregularities, like diarrhea or constipation, its very important that they try SCD. Can you get them to see starches and sugars as feeding their child poison, if in fact the child can't digest these items? Can you get them to subscribe to an SCD website and become educated by parents who have walked this path before them and are ready to support them? Maybe they won't feel so alone then. Also, if they are lucky, maybe your grandchild won't need SCD for life (though I think many who see the benefits of scd in our children are willing to keep them on it anyway). I read Lynn's response to you and agree COMPLETELY with it so I won't repeat it. This diet could be their best chance to recover their child. I honestly don't understand how any parent of a child on the spectrum would not give this diet a fighting chance. My God, wouldn't we all jump in front of a train to save our children's lives? Surely implementing this diet isn't too much to ask. I'm sorry if that sounds judgmental, but I too am passionate about healing my son and so hopeful that we can one day say that he is recovered and look back on this tough time as " the autism years " . Sure it may be a dream, but its one that I believe has a greater likelihood of coming true because of scd and supplementation. My son is getting better every day and that's enough for me to stick with SCD. I know this may be alot to ask, but have you considered making any of the kid-friendly items in BTVC or the other scd cookbooks and offering them to your grandchild when he visits? Make him some yummy chicken soup. If his parents see him enjoying a SCD meal and a cookie or cupcake and it doesn't look weird to them, maybe they'll reconsider. Please encourage your kids to read BTVC and to get on a website like this and hear the testimonials. There's lots of people willing to help them help their child heal. All they need to do is ask. And please don't give up--your grandchild needs you more than ever. Tracey. mom of Clay, 4, asd, scd 8/05 thisiskathys wrote: My DGS has ASD. My kids (his parents) hate, HATE, the idea of special diets. They think they are limiting, make kids look weird, are nonsence. But I know that our boy needs this diet. Four other members of our family, one also on the spectrum, are getting so many benefits from it. It is so frustrating. How did you overcome your resistance to the diet? Any suggestions? I really have tried so many things but they still won't budge. --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2006 Report Share Posted September 2, 2006 Easy question in my opinion. You are the mom. Parents know what is best for thier childern...esp. if you have a special one. You are thier best advocate and the one left to pick up the pieces. I believe as parents you have a " gut " feeling and you should run with it. As a mother of two boys with neurological disorders, i am telling go with your gut. Sometimes in life the strides come with great pain...but success is even greater. Good Luck! --------------------------------- Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2006 Report Share Posted September 3, 2006 Hear Elaine speak on the Dini Petti Show http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/elaine/elaine.htm My child / spouse won't try the diet (they say it sounds too hard) - what should I do? http://www.scdiet.org/4faq/ It's always sounds too difficult to anyone who's never tried the SCD - but to those of us who *have* tried it, and for whom it works, it's not too difficult at all. As Deanna points out, " " Mom " : I'm a mom, too, and if your daughter isn't interested in doing this, no amount of encouragement / cajoling / nagging / begging / pleading will make her want to give it a try - in fact it can have just the opposite effect. A while back, we on this list heard from a woman whose husband had Crohn's, and she was literally *killing* herself to prepare SCD foods for him, in spite of his indifference to the diet. Turns out he was making daily trips, behind his wife's back, to the local convenience store where he would buy candy bars for himself. Don't fight a battle you cannot win. You can lead a horse to water; give her the book, show her where the online resources are, etc, then let it go. She's an adult; the rest is up to her. " " src= " http://www.scdiet.org/images/blackarrow.gif " width=8 border=0> Critical Success Factors http://www.scdiet.org/3testimonials/success.html The SCD Path To Success What does it take to become aware of the SCD? What does it take to try it? To make it work? How difficult is it to follow? In addition to the other personal testimonials in this section, this page summarizes what many have gone through before starting the SCD and the critical success factors to helping it work. SCD Critical Success Factors Subject: re: SCD critical success factors Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2000 From: Mike Simons To: Emerson , *SCD Listserve Abstract: Regarding your post about the SCD " hurting people " , and the challenge the parent of your teenage student faces [in getting their child to try the SCD], I agree with [list member] in that I would have had a hard time with the SCD in high school (1982). In my opinion, getting the SCD to work requires an open attitude, personal motivation (vested interest), a supporting family or structure, and reduction of stress. This mix of critical success factors is not easy to accomplish. In reality, to get the drugs to *really* work in place of the SCD, the same is necessary. And while the doctors won't tell anyone about the SCD, they rarely discuss these other critical success factors, either. Detail: I was diagnosed as a sophomore in high school. It was a very stressful time for me and I am quite certain that stress was the major trigger--there were others, including a slightly-remote family history of CD, having always internalized my emotions as a kid, and environmental factors -- there were 2 other kids not 1 mile from my home that were diagnosed with CD or UC the same year as I was. Perhaps it was something in the water? Was it the proverbial " Jewish mother syndrome " (mine is Catholic)? Was there some mysterious ingredient in the spray they used to kill the Gypsy Moth caterpillars that year, ala Brockovitch?? http://www.amazon.com/gp/explorer/B00003CXFV/2/ref=pd_lpo_ase/002-2323086-483843\ 6?ie=UTF8 Was it all of this together? Yup. Anyway, I did hear about a " change in diet " while I was in college, around 1984. At the time I was in a pain-free time, drug free state, and pretty much ate what I wanted and dealt with it - with plenty of diarrhea (D). Then in 1994 and 1995 I frequented the alt.support.crohns-colitis newsgroup, but I do not recall anything about diet. I do recall plenty of fish oil and omega 3 discussion, which I ignored because the Asacol and 6-MP were keeping me in a pain-free state (again, with plenty of D). [Point: I was never able to get rid of the D until I started the SCD!!!] In 1996 my girlfriend (now wife) introduced me to a woman named Louise (upper west side, NYC). I visited Louise 4 or 5 times for " body and mind work " . Whatever criticism anyone has about chakras and auras and craniosacral massage and the like--she can dispell all of that and make a believer of anyone--at least she made me a believer. Her key questions for me during all of our sessions were: " OK, so you got Crohn's back in 1982. You've had it since then. Why won't you let it go? Why are you allowing it to control you? And most importantly, What would your life be like without it? " Ohhh, how I resisted answering those questions. I just couldn't. Or so I thought. My folks had taken the whole family to someone back in 1983, several sessions' worth of psychobabble stuff. These sessions were just a big finger-pointing gripefest. I was not able to extricate myself enough to learn what was going on until I met Louise. Then in 1996 and I came to Tucson on a vacation, to see if I would move here with her (versus my staying in NYC and her moving here for her Ph.D. studies without me). I fell in love with Tucson--the wonderful food, the hiking, the perpetual blue skies, the relaxed atmosphere, and more. Anyway, we were hiking one afternoon and I got a bad case of D. What had started as a wonderful day quickly turned sour. I lagged way behind. I squirmed and twisted to try to hold it back. It was horrible. Finally I explained that there was no way I could make it back to the trailhead and bathrooms. I needed to go. So, like so many others on this list, I found the most private place I could on the hard, rocky, cactus-ridden trail and made a big stinky mess. I had to use leaves to clean myself. It was so damned humiliating! And that was it--that was the last straw. I got back to NYC, saw Louise one more time, and got the name of Elaine's book (Louise was well aware of it and had asked: Why I wouldn't try it?). and I moved to Tucson, but it took me 2 months to purchase the book, four months to muster up the guts (pun intended) to try it. I found out that a new friend's son (10 years old) was on the SCD and was doing great. They told me how they cooked enough food for 2-3 days, put everything in glass or tupperware, and sent him to school, friends' homes for sleepovers, etc. When I started the SCD on 1/1/97, I told my wife that I was going to do it for 30 days. Then another 30. Then another 30. And I've never looked back. The success I enjoy with the SCD is so liberating. It used to be that when I dined out I'd eat and then have to go to the bathroom. Now that things are in control, and I know what to eat (and what not to) my life is - well, pure bliss!!! My wife and I both love to cook, so the added fun of translating our old, favorite recipes to SCD is just fine. We both benefit from the SCD (coincidentally, my wife has finally realized that she had suffered from IBS for almost 40 years. Eating the same food has done wonders for her, too). As you can see, maintaining the right " mix " keeps me in remission. It'll be four years this January 1st. I am so happy that I finally heeded all of Elaine's work and Louise's suggestions. It has made a world of difference. And that is why I dedicate so much time to maintaining the scdiet.org site, as well as my personal SCD food log http://www.glassbird.com/scd/ and other internet locations. So many will benefit from this regimen for remission! And has soooooo many have said, thank God for Elaine!!!! Successful SCD-ers have an open attitude, personal motivation, a loving support structure, and a way to control stress (for me, weight training at the gym twice a week and yoga twice a week). Again, all of this is my own opinion. :-) -Mike Simons Tucson, AZ http://www.glassbird.com/mike http://www.glassbird.com/scd and if that ain't enough there's the mother lode @ http://www.scdiet.org abigail chaney wrote: Easy question in my opinion. You are the mom. Parents know what is best for thier childern...esp. if you have a special one. You are thier best advocate and the one left to pick up the pieces. I believe as parents you have a " gut " feeling and you should run with it. As a mother of two boys with neurological disorders, i am telling go with your gut. Sometimes in life the strides come with great pain...but success is even greater. Good Luck! --------------------------------- Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min. 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